Farm and Fleet in Oak Creek Posted

[anmut]

I am doing the best I can while trying to stay cool, calm and collected. It just reminds me that I spent 6 years of my life defending their right of free speech, but they think they are superior beings to me and can deny my RIGHT to protect myself and family.

Post THAT. +100000000000000000000 and a big Thank You from us who didn't serve.

 

[xd40arff]

Post THAT. +100000000000000000000 and a big Thank You from us who didn't serve.

Thanks, I am not saying I am better than anyone else because I did. I just don't get how the Anti's think they are some greater being than I am for no good reason. Oh wait, I dont have a degree in fine arts!

 

[littlewolf]

I did some research. His name is Nathan I replied on the JS page to him but got nothing back yet. I asked if he still lived in Cudahy and that some open carry guys would come and walk around so he could call the cops and see what happens. As long as he's not by a school. He uses his goofy name on alot of websites.

Another reason I moved out of Cudahy... Tooooooo many fools! to deal with

 

[Jason in WI]

It would be interesting to know why this particular store manager posted the sign. Are there any others up?

Just a quick update:

From what I am told the sign was not there the next day after posting here, I haven't had time to verify.

My understanding is that a manager that is no longer there, put up a sign near the costumer service desk. She had seen open carriers in the store and being from Illinois I think she was supper nervous about it, even when told it was legal. I was told she wanted to put up no gun signs and several employees told her it wasn't a good idea. The sign was put up after I stopped shopping there and a few weeks after a fellow carrier was kicked out of a different Farm and Fleet.

I never did see the sign by the service desk but I didn't really look to hard and I nearly missed the one on the door. I'm unsure why it was removed but, when I took the pic an employee was standing about three feet away as I took multiple pictures because the sign was on a moving door and customers keep coming in. I'm not sure if he mentioned someone was taking pics or if it was all the stuff about being anti-gun, un-American, second amendment, hardest working people my ass; muttering I was doing.

I believe the sign was put up by a rogue employee. The fact remains that it is Farm and Fleet's corporate policy. After the other member's incident I stopped carrying to Farm and Fleet and then stopped shopping after a bit (couldn't stop cold turkey). I stopped referring customers there for services we don't offer at our shop. We referred many, many people there for tires, brakes, suspension and alignments. These are things we couldn't be competitive on and it was a better value for customers to have them done at Farm and Fleet instead of our facility.

I have been told there have been assaults inside Farm and Fleet, one being an employee was attacked and another threatened by an upset costumer. There was also a case of an employee robbing a manager in the parking lot at night for the money drop, I think that may have been by gun point. I cannot verify either of those so it is just hearsay and should not be taken as fact at this point.

The reason I stopped carrying at Farm and Fleet is because I wanted to make sure I wasn't the one to have the signs posted. I thought this would be a fight we'd fight later and with concealed carry on the way I thought it was better to see how much legal wight no firearm signs would have. It seemed like they had a don't ask don't tell policy and a bunch of us had no issues with carrying and I figured that was fine for a bit. Even with concealed carry people will still print and firearms will still pop into view. In my opinion when a concealed firearm becomes UN-concealed (it will happen), people will really freak out and stores will be posting immediately. We will always be fighting this fight.

I support all businesses rights fully. If they don't want me to carry in there facility I will not and won't even "sneak" in while concealed carrying even if the no firearm signs carry no weight. I also don't want the government to tell them they have to let us in, it's there place and they should run it how they want. It is also my right not to shop there and we are doing them a favor by telling them why we will not shop there and why we tell others not too. It costs a heck of a lot more money to attract new customers then it does to retain old ones. I would hope if someone isn't happy with me they would tell me instead of never being seen again. A happy customer tells one or two people about your business, an un-happy one tells everyone they know.

 

[hardballer]

Just a quick update:

From what I am told the sign was not there the next day after posting here, I haven't had time to verify.

My understanding is that a manager that is no longer there, put up a sign near the costumer service desk. She had seen open carriers in the store and being from Illinois I think she was supper nervous about it, even when told it was legal. I was told she wanted to put up no gun signs and several employees told her it wasn't a good idea. The sign was put up after I stopped shopping there and a few weeks after a fellow carrier was kicked out of a different Farm and Fleet.

I never did see the sign by the service desk but I didn't really look to hard and I nearly missed the one on the door. I'm unsure why it was removed but, when I took the pic an employee was standing about three feet away as I took multiple pictures because the sign was on a moving door and customers keep coming in. I'm not sure if he mentioned someone was taking pics or if it was all the stuff about being anti-gun, un-American, second amendment, hardest working people my ass; muttering I was doing.

I believe the sign was put up by a rogue employee. The fact remains that it is Farm and Fleet's corporate policy. After the other member's incident I stopped carrying to Farm and Fleet and then stopped shopping after a bit (couldn't stop cold turkey). I stopped referring customers there for services we don't offer at our shop. We referred many, many people there for tires, brakes, suspension and alignments. These are things we couldn't be competitive on and it was a better value for customers to have them done at Farm and Fleet instead of our facility.

I have been told there have been assaults inside Farm and Fleet, one being an employee was attacked and another threatened by an upset costumer. There was also a case of an employee robbing a manager in the parking lot at night for the money drop, I think that may have been by gun point. I cannot verify either of those so it is just hearsay and should not be taken as fact at this point.

The reason I stopped carrying at Farm and Fleet is because I wanted to make sure I wasn't the one to have the signs posted. I thought this would be a fight we'd fight later and with concealed carry on the way I thought it was better to see how much legal wight no firearm signs would have. It seemed like they had a don't ask don't tell policy and a bunch of us had no issues with carrying and I figured that was fine for a bit. Even with concealed carry people will still print and firearms will still pop into view. In my opinion when a concealed firearm becomes UN-concealed (it will happen), people will really freak out and stores will be posting immediately. We will always be fighting this fight.

I support all businesses rights fully. If they don't want me to carry in there facility I will not and won't even "sneak" in while concealed carrying even if the no firearm signs carry no weight. I also don't want the government to tell them they have to let us in, it's there place and they should run it how they want. It is also my right not to shop there and we are doing them a favor by telling them why we will not shop there and why we tell others not too. It costs a heck of a lot more money to attract new customers then it does to retain old ones. I would hope if someone isn't happy with me they would tell me instead of never being seen again. A happy customer tells one or two people about your business, an un-happy one tells everyone they know.

Thank you Jason, this is an excellent commentary. I enjoyed the read. I think you are right. They do need to know. It isn't just the customers, it's the referrals.

 

[rcav8r]

I think someone either got banned from FB, or they removed their account. Someone by the name of Dustin James sent me an nasty private message. I seem remember I used one of this persons comments (which were pro-gun by the way) to needle an anti in the same comment thread. I have no idea why I got attacked by him, maybe he sent it to the wrong person. Anyway, their account no longer exists, and I can no longer find the comment thread in question.
Just another mystery, I guess.

 

[Spartacus]

I think someone either got banned from FB, or they removed their account. Someone by the name of Dustin James sent me an nasty private message.

Its probably Dustiniac who was banned off here for being a wack-job. He came back as Springfield-something-or-other and will probably be banned again. Definitely a kook. He came on real friendly to me and then all of a sudden was telling me to **** off in PM's.

 

[kawisixer01]

You know I never realized the "arts" connection til now. The primary owner of farm and fleet is a big artsy girl. Jane Blain-Gilbertson is the major investor/owner of the armory dinner theater here in Janesville. If she wants to take a major anti stance she's putting two of her businesses in jeopordy. I go there often and love their food and shows, plus give gift certs from there all the time. But I love my rights more!

 

[Flipper]

Ms. Blain-Gilbertson has given several thousand dollars to Paul Ryan's campaigns. Kinda hard to believe that a person that grew up in a hard working conservative family that supported and was supported by similarly hard working people would go against basic values. I suspect she very much believes in assisting the communities where the stores are located.

 

[CalicoJack10]

Farm and Fleet has more than one anti-gun practice. The no carry policy is just a small part of a bigger problem. I found this out the hard way when I went to buy one of the guns they had advertised in their fish wrap. I drove 70 miles (one way) to buy a gun, and they refused to sell it to me. According to the manager they had no legal basis for doing so. And despite several apologies from managelent, I went to another gun store and got the same gun. Granted I paid more for it, but it was worth the cost considering the trouble that the prick at the gun counter caused me while I was there.

 

[Flipper]

If they are truly in favor of the 2nd Admendment they should have knowledgeable staff aware of
firearm laws and have store management very aware of such laws and not are wary of those excising their constitutional right.

 

[anmut]

Farm and Fleet has more than one anti-gun practice. The no carry policy is just a small part of a bigger problem. I found this out the hard way when I went to buy one of the guns they had advertised in their fish wrap. I drove 70 miles (one way) to buy a gun, and they refused to sell it to me. According to the manager they had no legal basis for doing so. And despite several apologies from managelent, I went to another gun store and got the same gun. Granted I paid more for it, but it was worth the cost considering the trouble that the prick at the gun counter caused me while I was there.

Tell us more of that story please.

 

[Spartacus]

Farm and Fleet has more than one anti-gun practice. The no carry policy is just a small part of a bigger problem. I found this out the hard way when I went to buy one of the guns they had advertised in their fish wrap. I drove 70 miles (one way) to buy a gun, and they refused to sell it to me. According to the manager they had no legal basis for doing so. And despite several apologies from managelent, I went to another gun store and got the same gun. Granted I paid more for it, but it was worth the cost considering the trouble that the prick at the gun counter caused me while I was there.

I'd need to hear more details before I swallow this one as well.

 

[CUOfficer]

Where are there Farm and Fleet stores that sell guns? Are you sure you aren't thinking about Fleet Farm? I can't ever remember the La Crosse Farm and Fleet selling guns.

 

[Flipper]

Farm and Fleet Acquires Gun Dealer and is Excited about Growing This Type of Business

December 28, 2010

http://www.wctrib.com/event/article/id/76482/group/Business/

 

[paul@paul-fisher.com]

December 28, 2010

http://www.wctrib.com/event/article/id/76482/group/Business/

That is 'Runnings Farm and Fleet' based in Marshall, MN, not 'Blains Farm and Fleet' based in Janesville, WI.

 

[Flipper]

That is 'Runnings Farm and Fleet' based in Marshall, MN, not 'Blains Farm and Fleet' based in Janesville, WI.

Glad to see a Farm and Fleet chain that appreciates the self defense right of their customers.

http://www.facebook.com/pages/Runnings-Farm-and-Fleet/105643172803053

Same stuff (uses same distributor as Blains and Fleet Farm)

http://www.myrunnings.com/

I see until Jan 31 they are giving away a free gun with a purchase

a grease gun

 

[xd40arff]

I wondering when we will get any sort of response from Farm and Fleet. With all the media attention I figured they would have came out with some sort of press release.

 

[anmut]

Keep up the chatter on the F&F Facebook wall. Stay organized, speak articulately & don't get suckered into ******* matches with the liberty-hating anti's. All three of them.

 

[xd40arff]

Amnut, I have been doing my part on there. There is some new James Smithers on there, just seems like he is an alter ego of Nancy or Judith