Greens Guide to 18-20 "Carry" of a handgun

[amzbrady]

BUMP

I have a co--worker who is 18 I told to read up on your thread, just making it easier for him to find.

I didnt read your whole thread but did I see something in the first post saying something about being able to get a CPL at 18?

BTW, it's about time you changed your avatar. You are not changing them as often as you used to.

 

[OrangeIsTrouble]

BUMP

I have a co--worker who is 18 I told to read up on your thread, just making it easier for him to find.

I didnt read your whole thread but did I see something in the first post saying something about being able to get a CPL at 18?

BTW, it's about time you changed your avatar. You are not changing them as often as you used to.

First of all, thanks for giving that coworker some light!

Second, CPL isn't until 21 years of age, but just because I am turning 21 next year doesn't mean I gave up that battle. Next legislative session, it's my goal to hit it hard and knock door doors.

Third, yup, I have been slacking big time!

 

[amzbrady]

Third, yup, I have been slacking big time!

Glad to see you have "doubled your effort", "Big time"...

 

[.45ACPaddy]

This thread is an important reminder of the laws we have in this state, and how those who are under the age of 21, and are responsible enough to actually research the laws, can be law abiding citizens and protect themselves and the ones they love at the same time.

I highly encourage young people to read this thread.

 

[BigRed]

bump!!! Just bringing back to life an important thread. :lol:

 

[1911er]

Roflmao

Policeman: When I saw you coming around the corner, I said to myself,
"Fifty-five at least."
Woman Driver: "Well, you are a long way off! It's this hat that
makes me look so old."

Great timing Bill I needed A laugh in the middle of this one.

 

[DamonK]

The only issue that I see is that the second that you put your pistol into a lockbox that you carry with you, it's concealed. You don't want to get slapped with a CC without a licence charge. And as smooth as some of those are, there's a lot of LEOs that know exactly what they look like. Just food for thought. In general, wait to carry till you're 21. Carry pepper spray if you can't wait. The other issue I have with this, and there's a ton of people on here that'll argue with e till the cows come home is that in general, young folks wont have much training or expierience with said firearm. I personally believe that that is critical for carrying, open or concealed. You guys can get mad if you want to, but reading the forums and watching videos does not prepare you for using your firearm to stop another human being. I know, from personal experience.

 

[gogodawgs]

The only issue that I see is that the second that you put your pistol into a lockbox that you carry with you, it's concealed. You don't want to get slapped with a CC without a licence charge. And as smooth as some of those are, there's a lot of LEOs that know exactly what they look like. Just food for thought. In general, wait to carry till you're 21. Carry pepper spray if you can't wait. The other issue I have with this, and there's a ton of people on here that'll argue with e till the cows come home is that in general, young folks wont have much training or expierience with said firearm. I personally believe that that is critical for carrying, open or concealed. You guys can get mad if you want to, but reading the forums and watching videos does not prepare you for using your firearm to stop another human being. I know, from personal experience.

Damon, I know you are new here, but please take the time to read the FAQs and the forum and comprehend. Carrying in a opaque case IS NOT concealed on his person and is an exception. Your advice is poor and absolutely incorrect.

[h=2]RCW 9.41.050[/h][h=1]Carrying firearms.[/h]

(1)(a) Except in the person's place of abode or fixed place of business, a person shall not carry a pistol concealed on his or her person without a license to carry a concealed pistol.

[h=2]RCW 9.41.060[/h][h=1]Exceptions to restrictions on carrying firearms.[/h] (9) Any person while carrying a pistol unloaded and in a closed opaque case or secure wrapper

 

[tombrewster421]

Damon, I know you are new here, but please take the time to read the FAQs and the forum and comprehend. Carrying in a opaque case IS NOT concealed on his person and is an exception. Your advice is poor and absolutely incorrect.





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Damon needs to pay special attention to the part where it says "unloaded" in a closed opaque case.

 

[DamonK]

I suppose Damon was just thinking that carrying a unloaded firearm in a case isn't a very effective means of self defence... Mace, or even a rape whistle would be a much better option. If you're carrying just because you can and are willing to jump through all the hoops that make it a fairly impractical means of defence, I guess that's your decision.

 

[tombrewster421]

I suppose Damon was just thinking that carrying a unloaded firearm in a case isn't a very effective means of self defence... Mace, or even a rape whistle would be a much better option. If you're carrying just because you can and are willing to jump through all the hoops that make it a fairly impractical means of defence, I guess that's your decision.

All you have to do is go for a walk outside. Then you can lawfully conceal or open carry. The whole lockbox thing is only for the times you don't fall within another exception.

 

[sudden valley gunner]

I suppose Damon was just thinking that carrying a unloaded firearm in a case isn't a very effective means of self defence... Mace, or even a rape whistle would be a much better option. If you're carrying just because you can and are willing to jump through all the hoops that make it a fairly impractical means of defence, I guess that's your decision.

Not ideal but better than not having one at all.

 

[gogodawgs]

I suppose Damon was just thinking that carrying a unloaded firearm in a case isn't a very effective means of self defence... Mace, or even a rape whistle would be a much better option. If you're carrying just because you can and are willing to jump through all the hoops that make it a fairly impractical means of defence, I guess that's your decision.

Not ideal but better than not having one at all.

+1

And who says it is mutually exclusive. You can still carry spray or other devices and the unloaded firearm in a case. Plus you can still have a loaded magazine nearby. Better than nothing.

 

[Tomas]

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The other issue I have with this, and there's a ton of people on here that'll argue with e till the cows come home is that in general, young folks wont have much training or expierience with said firearm. I personally believe that that is critical for carrying, open or concealed. You guys can get mad if you want to, but reading the forums and watching videos does not prepare you for using your firearm to stop another human being. I know, from personal experience.

In general I must agree with you, HOWEVER, many of us were or are military trained in handling and using a firearm, often in more than just training, before we reached the magical age of 21. Those people, especially, need to be given at least some consideration for their "training and experience."

 

[DamonK]

In general I must agree with you, HOWEVER, many of us were or are military trained in handling and using a firearm, often in more than just training, before we reached the magical age of 21. Those people, especially, need to be given at least some consideration for their "training and experience."

I know all about the Army's weapons training. I taught BRM and ARM for 6 years. Like any kind of training, it takes constant practice to be effective. I'm not taking away from the young soldiers out there. What my concern is about is that at that age, they are generally at the tail end of puberty. Now folks out there can hoot and holler about how their kid is the most responsible person on the planet, and maybe they are. But realistically, they still have tons of hormones raging through them from time to time. That makes them unstable. And you betcha that includes service members. Young soldiers today tend to be very emotional, to the point of doing very dumb and dangerous things. It's just biology, and some not so common sense.

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[gogodawgs]

I know all about the Army's weapons training. I taught BRM and ARM for 6 years. Like any kind of training, it takes constant practice to be effective. I'm not taking away from the young soldiers out there. What my concern is about is that at that age, they are generally at the tail end of puberty. Now folks out there can hoot and holler about how their kid is the most responsible person on the planet, and maybe they are. But realistically, they still have tons of hormones raging through them from time to time. That makes them unstable. And you betcha that includes service members. Young soldiers today tend to be very emotional, to the point of doing very dumb and dangerous things. It's just biology, and some not so common sense.

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Yes they are....so what?

Unalienable rights are just that.

 

[davidmcbeth]

regard anything I say as hearsay !

:shocker:


Practice makes perfect !

 

[DamonK]

Yes they are....so what?

Unalienable rights are just that.

Seriously? Are you high? So you have no problems with someone who is for all intents and purposes emotionally unstable carrying a loaded firearm in public?

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[gogodawgs]

Seriously? Are you high? So you have no problems with someone who is for all intents and purposes emotionally unstable carrying a loaded firearm in public?

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Are you a doctor?

If they are unalienable then they are unalienable aren't they.

 

[sudden valley gunner]

Seriously? Are you high? So you have no problems with someone who is for all intents and purposes emotionally unstable carrying a loaded firearm in public?

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I have a bigger problem with who gets to decide who gets to exercise an unalienable right or not or those who don't seem to understand what not infringing or impairing means......