OrangeIsTrouble
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Where do you see a threat?
Cite man cite.
Cite man cite.
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Greens Guide to 18-20 "Carry" of a handgun
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BigDave
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Well it is getting late so a bed time story for you, once upon a time there was a boy who thought he knew it all and just down the road with a little wisdom he awakens to finds that he was not as smart as he once thought he was :dude::lol:
:lol:
OrangeIsTrouble
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Who is the author of that story and what inspired it?
Cite please.
Cite please.
Tomas
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Good job on the guide and the logical reasoning offered for your choices, Poo.
Shame about some of the negative additions offered up by others.
Shame about some of the negative additions offered up by others.
OrangeIsTrouble
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Good job on the guide and the logical reasoning offered for your choices, Poo.
Shame about some of the negative additions offered up by others.
Whose Poo anyway? If I find out, I'll let him know he did a good job.
BigDave
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Greenisn'tfaster said:
Look again it is not protected by state preemption but is covered under
RCW 9.91.160 (2) No town, city, county, special purpose district, quasi-municipal corporation or other unit of government may prohibit a person eighteen years old or older, or a person fourteen years old or older who has the permission of a parent or guardian to do so, from purchasing or possessing a personal protection spray device or from using such a device in a manner consistent with the authorized use of force under RCW 9A.16.020. No town, city, county, special purpose district, quasi-municipal corporation, or other unit of government may prohibit a person eighteen years old or older from delivering a personal protection spray device to a person authorized to possess such a device.
State Preemption covers firearms only.
RCW 9.41.290
State preemption.
The state of Washington hereby fully occupies and preempts the entire field of firearms regulation within the boundaries of the state
OrangeIsTrouble
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Why thank you BigDave, for that very contributing post (and I mean it). I will look into that to make sure my wording is corrected in the daylight hours. Meaning right now its gamertime (pwning noobletz on halo reach), and I cannot be serious things.
END_THE_FED
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9.41.290 Is firearm preemption
9.91.160 (2) is defense spray preemption.
They are both preemption statutes they just deal with different things.
There are probably several other preemption statutes in the RCWs
9.41.290 isnt the only one.
I think that referring to spray devices as preempted is acurate.
sudden valley gunner
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Great job Green/Poo, (reminds me of that laulau I ate
).Opaque is opaque you have the right to defend yourself and at least you are putting forth an effort to do it within the law, many at your age plainly ignore it and are carrying loaded weapons in their hoodies/sweatpants.
The age group between 17-21 (give or take a year or two) have some of the highest rates of homicide, I am not against those in that age group protecting themselves. Just ignore Dave's trollish behavior, the rest of the discussion was good but for his typical ranting and paranoia.
BigDave
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Great job Green/Poo, (reminds me of that laulau I ate
Opaque is opaque you have the right to defend yourself and at least you are putting forth an effort to do it within the law, many at your age plainly ignore it and are carrying loaded weapons in their hoodies/sweatpants.
The age group between 17-21 (give or take a year or two) have some of the highest rates of homicide, I am not against those in that age group protecting themselves. Just ignore Dave's trollish behavior, the rest of the discussion was good but for his typical ranting and paranoia.
Get over it TROLL
Ajetpilot
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One of the best features of this new forum software is the "Ignore List" :exclaim:
Trigger Dr
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Well it is getting late so a bed time story for you, once upon a time there was a boy who thought he knew it all and just down the road with a little wisdom he awakens to finds that he was not as smart as he once thought he was :dude::lol:
so he changed his name to Big Dave and got on the OC forum.
BigDave
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No he changed his name to Tigger the Trigger Dr and joined OCDO :lol:
OrangeIsTrouble
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Took a look at 9.91.160 and no where does it say "preemption", I guess I forgot to say it's LIKE the state preemption for firearms...
I have it corrected now.
sudden valley gunner
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BigDave
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Look closely at RCW 0.41.050, look at the very first sentence, “Except in the person's place of abode or fixed place of business, a person shall not carry a pistol concealed on his or her person without a license to carry a concealed pistol.”
The way that I read that, is that you can carry concealed at your workplace, unless of course it is not “fixed” such as being a delivery driver or bus driver. (Tell me where it says you have to be the OWNER of the business before you argue)
Remember, this is alllllllll hearsayyyy
Are you sure you are not misinterpreting this portion?
"Except in the person's place of abode or fixed place of business" in your interpolation you are suggesting it does not have to be the owners fixed place of business but anyone who worked there.
Would it not say "place of abode or [a] fixed place of business" to be true in your view?
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OrangeIsTrouble
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Doesn't say you gotta be an owner does it? Unless it specifies, it's up to the reader to make a decision.
BigDave
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No it could be up to the courts to decide.
Not that I know the exact answer to this but it is something to really consider how it applies.
"Except in the person's [place of abode] or [fixed place of business]" this sentence is addressing the person? Thus the persons home or business.
OrangeIsTrouble
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You bring up a could point, it could very well mean that it would be that person's own business and you are right that it could be very well be up to the courts to decide.
But what's this?
(small voice says).....
This guide might soon be thrown away!
Why? You ask why?
Because of HB 1238 and this year we are ready to take on the fight!
But what's this?
(small voice says).....
This guide might soon be thrown away!
Why? You ask why?
Because of HB 1238 and this year we are ready to take on the fight!
BigDave
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It would be nice if the HB1238 passes, but as we know not all good bills get passed.
(big voice says) humor ....
Whenever someone wants to write a guide on a topic they need to be right not guessing and pointing out this small flaw in it, brings to the person expecting the guide to be accurate something to consider.