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Did you know that Fuddruckers is off limits to weapons?
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TFred
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Tess wrote:
TFred
Tess wrote:
Or there is an option for no specific store, near the top of the list.
TFred
marshaul
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peter nap wrote:
Starbucks' recent position far outweighs that setback, and helps establish a precedent that OC is legal and acceptable, even if controversial.
Wait and see, that's going to be the example that more and more companies follow. Starbucks is posting record earnings. Who else can say that?
What model would you want your company to emulate? Would you want to be successful like Starbucks, or successful like Peet's and Fuddruckers?
peter nap wrote:
In California you may be right. But I hardly think this Fuddruckers situation spells doom for OCers.peter nap wrote:
Starbucks' recent position far outweighs that setback, and helps establish a precedent that OC is legal and acceptable, even if controversial.
Wait and see, that's going to be the example that more and more companies follow. Starbucks is posting record earnings. Who else can say that?
What model would you want your company to emulate? Would you want to be successful like Starbucks, or successful like Peet's and Fuddruckers?
marshaul
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peter nap wrote:
peter nap wrote:
See what I mean! That's what happens.
45acpForMe
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TFred wrote:
Well there goes my question of whether to support Franchise locations. The only one near me is corporate. :-(
TFred wrote:
Well there goes my question of whether to support Franchise locations. The only one near me is corporate. :-(
2a4all
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45acpForMe wrote:
45acpForMe wrote:
It's too bad, too. This is the restaurant that we invited Sheriff Diggs & his wife to have dinner with us, and we chose it because of Red Robin's gun ban policy. As I recall, we collected receipts to send to Red Robin. Guess that didn't work out so well. But anyway, the roof in that joint leaks.
KaosDad
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Hey Ed! Up for a burger soon?
Also - speaking of "coffin nails" I am seeing a trend that is disturbing. By trying to "get the word out" and OCing, is the movement slowly killing itself - or at least reducing the number of places where OC is welcomed (or at least tolerated)?
The pattern is there - a group OCs to XX a few times, a sheep bleets, a sign goes up.
How many times has this happened? Just in the short time I have been on this board at least twice.
Hey Ed! Up for a burger soon?
Also - speaking of "coffin nails" I am seeing a trend that is disturbing. By trying to "get the word out" and OCing, is the movement slowly killing itself - or at least reducing the number of places where OC is welcomed (or at least tolerated)?
The pattern is there - a group OCs to XX a few times, a sheep bleets, a sign goes up.
How many times has this happened? Just in the short time I have been on this board at least twice.
TFred
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Just keep in mind, we have no data that says franchise locations are OC friendly, just a thought that they may not be bound by a corporate mandate.
They very well may follow the rats into the sea voluntarily...
TFred
Just keep in mind, we have no data that says franchise locations are OC friendly, just a thought that they may not be bound by a corporate mandate.
They very well may follow the rats into the sea voluntarily...
TFred
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KaosDad wrote:
Case in point - Olive Garden has been reported as "Unfriendly" yet we have responses here repeatedly about "no problem."
Don't let disappointments deter you - polite, honest citizens just going through their normal daily routines is the answer and what is more American, more normal, than friends sitting down to eat together.
There is an ebb and flow, but we are definitely making major progress.
You don't do that by keeping your light beneath the basket. There will always be those opposed but how do convince the fence-sitters by staying away?
You think it is tough now? You should have been around when this first started. :lol: IMO OC is arguably the single most effective means of furthering our RKBA - it does work, it is working.
Yata hey
KaosDad wrote:
I see no negative trend or otherwise major rift/divide in businesses. What I have noticed is that some (many?) purported anti establishments fall back on quiet acceptance over time - in some cases very short order.
Case in point - Olive Garden has been reported as "Unfriendly" yet we have responses here repeatedly about "no problem."
Don't let disappointments deter you - polite, honest citizens just going through their normal daily routines is the answer and what is more American, more normal, than friends sitting down to eat together.
There is an ebb and flow, but we are definitely making major progress.
You don't do that by keeping your light beneath the basket. There will always be those opposed but how do convince the fence-sitters by staying away?
You think it is tough now? You should have been around when this first started. :lol: IMO OC is arguably the single most effective means of furthering our RKBA - it does work, it is working.
Yata hey
wylde007
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I OC'ed for years back in the '90s because they wouldn't issue me a CHP. "May issue".
I don't recall why I stopped carrying. Apathy? Feelings of isolation, alone-ness?
It's now been several years back "in the saddle", as it were.
I OC'ed for years back in the '90s because they wouldn't issue me a CHP. "May issue".
I don't recall why I stopped carrying. Apathy? Feelings of isolation, alone-ness?
It's now been several years back "in the saddle", as it were.
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Grapeshot wrote:
Every once in a while I see a business move to the dark side...like Blairs.
But on the whole, most places either take no notice or tell me how they are supporters.
Grapeshot wrote:
I have to agree with Grape shot.
Every once in a while I see a business move to the dark side...like Blairs.
But on the whole, most places either take no notice or tell me how they are supporters.
sccrref
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darthmord wrote:
Thanks for the meat and potatoes. Took some out, added other stuff in and seasoned to taste.
Today it came to my attention that Fuddruckers has taken the position banning law-abiding citizens from openly carry a firearm on premises as required by the laws of the Commonwealth of Virginia (since your stores have an ABC On-site Consumption license).
On all of our family visits to Fuddruckers, I've had outstanding service, great food and have always been greeted with a smile by management and employees alike.
I just wanted to take the time to let you know that my numerous visits to your stores have stopped. I am responsible for the safety & well-being of my wife, children, and myself. As your company does not provide any guarantees of our safety while on your property, I refuse to be defenseless and negligent in my responsibilities.
Please note that Starbucks and many other businesses have stayed more or less out of this issue by following a permissive stance with regards to firearm carry & state laws. Their bottom lines have improved once it became known they don't care if you are armed for self-protection or not as long as you are a law-abiding citizen.
But since you are following the restrictive stance with regards to firearms, I will respect that stance and not come back to any of your stores again. It pains me that I will have to go for a mediocre McDonald's burger over yours due to this policy change. But my family's and my safety are paramount. If you disallow me to ensure their's and my safety, I won't give you our business.
Please change your policy to a permissive stance. The law-abiding citizen isn't your enemy. We aren't the cause of problems for you. If you drive us away, we'll stay away. The criminals however will not.
darthmord wrote:
Thanks for the meat and potatoes. Took some out, added other stuff in and seasoned to taste.
Today it came to my attention that Fuddruckers has taken the position banning law-abiding citizens from openly carry a firearm on premises as required by the laws of the Commonwealth of Virginia (since your stores have an ABC On-site Consumption license).
On all of our family visits to Fuddruckers, I've had outstanding service, great food and have always been greeted with a smile by management and employees alike.
I just wanted to take the time to let you know that my numerous visits to your stores have stopped. I am responsible for the safety & well-being of my wife, children, and myself. As your company does not provide any guarantees of our safety while on your property, I refuse to be defenseless and negligent in my responsibilities.
Please note that Starbucks and many other businesses have stayed more or less out of this issue by following a permissive stance with regards to firearm carry & state laws. Their bottom lines have improved once it became known they don't care if you are armed for self-protection or not as long as you are a law-abiding citizen.
But since you are following the restrictive stance with regards to firearms, I will respect that stance and not come back to any of your stores again. It pains me that I will have to go for a mediocre McDonald's burger over yours due to this policy change. But my family's and my safety are paramount. If you disallow me to ensure their's and my safety, I won't give you our business.
Please change your policy to a permissive stance. The law-abiding citizen isn't your enemy. We aren't the cause of problems for you. If you drive us away, we'll stay away. The criminals however will not.
AbNo
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ed wrote:
ed wrote:
Done.
SouthernBoy
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ed wrote:
ed wrote:
Done.
fully_armed_biker
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SouthernBoy wrote:
SouthernBoy wrote:
Also done!
KaosDad
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Grapeshot wrote:
Grapeshot wrote:
Thanks for the insight!
Eeyore
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deaconmaster wrote:
deaconmaster wrote:
Why? I can name a half-dozen places with better burgers than Fudd's.