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was the restaurant carry bill signed by the gov ??

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Grapeshot wrote:
Not slamming those that will chose to CC - just stating why I will do so.

My personal feeling on CC in restaurants is that it is a comforting option for some, but that it further promotes hiding a legal right - that would seem to run counter to the philosophical premise of OCDO.

Surely no education or normalization opportunity will exist unless others can see your gun.

I say wear it with dignity - it is not a scarlet letter.

Yata hey

Agree with that. At least now there is a choice. Was at LaMadalines in Old Town yesterday and no problems there but if I knew I was going to a place where drunks were going to be stupid (hey can I grab that type of stupid) and I needed to be there I may CC.
 

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Grapeshot wrote:
Not slamming those that will chose to CC - just stating why I will NOT do so.

My personal feeling on CC in restaurants is that it is a comforting option for some, but that it further promotes hiding a legal right - that would seem to run counter to the philosophical premise of OCDO.

Surely no education or normalization opportunity will exist unless others can see your gun.

I say wear it with dignity - it is not a scarlet letter.

       Yata hey

Edited to correct opening statement to include"NOT"

At least it gives a CHP holder a choice. Also my preferred method of carry is OC with a BUG CC. Before I went into a restaurant that served alcohol I would always have to secure my BUG somewhere. Now I can OC & CC without worry. It also stops some power-hungry gubbermant official that sees your coat cover your OC gun from arresting you for CC-ing. I don't know that this ever happened but all of us had to be careful performing the VA tuck coming in, and leaving.
 

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Grapeshot wrote:
Not slamming those that will chose to CC - just stating why I will NOT do so.

My personal feeling on CC in restaurants is that it is a comforting option for some, but that it further promotes hiding a legal right - that would seem to run counter to the philosophical premise of OCDO.

Surely no education or normalization opportunity will exist unless others can see your gun.

I say wear it with dignity - it is not a scarlet letter.

Yata hey

Edited to correct opening statement to include"NOT"

I can agree with everything you've said, however, sometimes I am forced to dine with customers who are pretty obviously not on the same page as I am with regard to my personal safety. I could make a political statement, and strain our relationship, but there aren't many customers around theses days so that's a bad idea. This fixed law prevents that from being a problem.

Also, sometimes when I dine with those that don't have a problem with guns, like my family, it's cold outside and I don't want to have to take off my coat before I walk in the door. Now I won't have to.

Although I don't do it very often, there is the odd occasion where I dine with a sport coat on. I'm not going to tuck it in behindmy holster. Now, I won't have to worry about that either.
 

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Understand the viability of the CC option in numerous situations and I am glad for the change. It is long over due.

Yata hey
 

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buster81 wrote:
Grapeshot wrote:
Not slamming those that will chose to CC - just stating why I will NOT do so.

My personal feeling on CC in restaurants is that it is a comforting option for some, but that it further promotes hiding a legal right - that would seem to run counter to the philosophical premise of OCDO.

Surely no education or normalization opportunity will exist unless others can see your gun.

I say wear it with dignity - it is not a scarlet letter.

Yata hey

Edited to correct opening statement to include"NOT"

I can agree with everything you've said, however, sometimes I am forced to dine with customers who are pretty obviously not on the same page as I am with regard to my personal safety. I could make a political statement, and strain our relationship, but there aren't many customers around theses days so that's a bad idea. This fixed law prevents that from being a problem.

Also, sometimes when I dine with those that don't have a problem with guns, like my family, it's cold outside and I don't want to have to take off my coat before I walk in the door. Now I won't have to.

Although I don't do it very often, there is the odd occasion where I dine with a sport coat on. I'm not going to tuck it in behindmy holster. Now, I won't have to worry about that either.

I agree with everything you just said Buster...and that's what a CHP is for. This is the only CHP bill I had any support for this year and it was because it brought people who must or desire to CC, on even ground with those of us that don't.

There is absolutely nothing wrong with CC as long as it's not forced on all of us.
 

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peter nap wrote:
buster81 wrote:
Grapeshot wrote:
Not slamming those that will chose to CC - just stating why I will NOT do so.

My personal feeling on CC in restaurants is that it is a comforting option for some, but that it further promotes hiding a legal right - that would seem to run counter to the philosophical premise of OCDO.

Surely no education or normalization opportunity will exist unless others can see your gun.

I say wear it with dignity - it is not a scarlet letter.

Yata hey

Edited to correct opening statement to include"NOT"

I can agree with everything you've said, however, sometimes I am forced to dine with customers who are pretty obviously not on the same page as I am with regard to my personal safety. I could make a political statement, and strain our relationship, but there aren't many customers around theses days so that's a bad idea. This fixed law prevents that from being a problem.

Also, sometimes when I dine with those that don't have a problem with guns, like my family, it's cold outside and I don't want to have to take off my coat before I walk in the door. Now I won't have to.

Although I don't do it very often, there is the odd occasion where I dine with a sport coat on. I'm not going to tuck it in behindmy holster. Now, I won't have to worry about that either.

I agree with everything you just said Buster...and that's what a CHP is for. This is the only CHP bill I had any support for this year and it was because it brought people who must or desire to CC, on even ground with those of us that don't.

There is absolutely nothing wrong with CC as long as it's not forced on all of us.
Options are always good. When it's 90 degrees and humid, open carry is great. When it's 20 degrees and windy, I am personally not brave enough for open carry.
 

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Grapeshot wrote:
Not slamming those that will chose to CC - just stating why I will NOT do so.

My personal feeling on CC in restaurants is that it is a comforting option for some, but that it further promotes hiding a legal right - that would seem to run counter to the philosophical premise of OCDO.

Surely no education or normalization opportunity will exist unless others can see your gun.

I say wear it with dignity - it is not a scarlet letter.

Yata hey

The important phrase being "My personal feeling". ;)

I prefer to carry concealed in an IWB holster.

I didn't like having to try to tuck in my shirt behind the firearm in the parking lot before walking into a restaurant.

To the uninformed, it canlook like you're trying to 'show-off' the fact that you're carrying, or look like the old western movies where the two pistoleros sling their duster/poncho back to get quicker accessbefore a shootout.
 

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Shovelhead wrote:

The important phrase being "My personal feeling". ;)

I prefer to carry concealed in an IWB holster.

I didn't like having to try to tuck in my shirt behind the firearm in the parking lot before walking into a restaurant.

To the uninformed, it canlook like you're trying to 'show-off' the fact that you're carrying, or look like the old western movies where the two pistoleros sling their duster/poncho back to get quicker accessbefore a shootout.
I assure you it was not unintentional.

As to the colorful depiction of the act of accomplishing the Virginia Tuck, that's a bit over the top, don't you think. Only if someone wore a section of boiler plate over their chest, on a rope would that allusion begin to be fitting.

Yata hey
 

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"A Fist Full Of Dollars"......... GREAT flick. :dude:



and my mention of "to the uninformed" was also intentional. ;)
 

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Then we can say that we here are not universally unintentionally uninformed nor unattached from unattended consequences of any uniquely unilateral ubiquitous undertakings.....then again some people portend to perceive patently purposefully when prior parties produce potential products precipitously perhaps - perception being paramount. :cool:

Yata hey
 

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Shovelhead wrote:
[align=center]was the restaurant carry bill signed by the gov ??
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[align=center]YES!!![/align]

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[align=center]However it doesn't go into effect until July 1[/align]
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Thank you.


The following message has been sent to the Governor:
(please print this page for your records)

From:


Mr.Smurfologist

Springfield, VAXXXXX
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Affiliation: Veteran
Subject: Senate Bill 334/House Bill 505

Message:

Governor McDonnell,

I appreciate you signing the Restaurant Carry Bill into Law. I can't even count the times I drew attention to myself when I entered establisments that serve alcohol for on-site consumption where I was following the law as it was written. I am glad that we now have a Governor in office that cares about the safety of its citizens. I am glad that I voted for you (and you won). Take care and have a great day!

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The 2nd Amendment... brought to you by Beretta and the number 1791!!:X
 

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HORRAY!!!

Now if we could only get the NC General Assembly to repeal our outright ban on carrying in such establishments.

Well, there's always next Session...
 

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Dreamer wrote:
HORRAY!!!

Now if we could only get the NC General Assembly to repeal our outright ban on carrying in such establishments.

Well, there's always next Session...
I believe Virginia made it 42 states now? Momentum is definitely swinging our way. Next session, you will be able to use the evidence that nothing bad happened here, the nearest neighbor, and a vote against it must mean they think NC residents are a bunch of heathens, unable to control themselves like the residents of the 42 other states.

In reality there is no way to support such a ban without insulting the populace. But I suppose the same could be said for most of the liberal agenda...

TFred
 

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http://blogs.roanoke.com/rtblogs/dancasey/2010/04/16/clinton-takes-a-swipe-at-bob-mcdonnell-over-confederate-history/#comments

It looks like Dan Casey has decided to put his anti-gun hatred in print. I can hardly wait.



Bill Clinton spoke at the Center for America Progress today, the anniversary of both the Oklahoma City bombing (1995) and the massacre at Virginia Tech (2007). And he he drew comparisons between some of the anger at government today and back when he was president.

This is how he ended his speech, according to Politico:

Clinton said the same kind of "disorientation" that riled Americans during his term is apparent today in "the idea that we ought to bring back Confederate month in Virginia without talking anything about slavery" and "the fact that you ought to be able to pack a six gun into Starbucks and order a Cowboy Latte."

Starbucks? Heck, obviously he didn't know that McDonnell signed the concealed carry in bars bill Tuesday.

Stay tuned for more on that in Sunday's paper.
 

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I always enjoy reading the Casey Comics before the more serious Sunday funnies. :lol:

Yata hey
 

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Grapeshot wrote:
buster81 wrote:
Grapeshot wrote:
I always enjoy reading the Casey Comics before the more serious Sunday funnies. :lol:

Yata hey
The comics are indeed funny. Here they are: http://blogs.roanoke.com/rtblogs/dancasey/2010/04/18/sundays-column-a-case-study-of-guns-in-bars/#comments
Ridiculing a Right does not make it less so, but it does define the character of the author.

Yata hey

Sadly, there is very little character to define.
 

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Grapeshot wrote:
Ridiculing a Right does not make it less so, but it does define the character of the author.

Yata hey
Well put, sir. I'd like to steal that phrasing.
 
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