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was the restaurant carry bill signed by the gov ??

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TFred wrote:
Funny, there is no news coverage of this at all. Just the NRA release. I would have expected a whole new round of "blood will flow in the streets" drivel.

TFred
It's only a matter of time until either Dan Casey or MPWpublishes one of theirhit pieces detaiingall of the violence they fantasizes about. I say Dan Casey gets it done first, but the countdown is on...
 

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buster81 wrote:
TFred wrote:
Funny, there is no news coverage of this at all. Just the NRA release. I would have expected a whole new round of "blood will flow in the streets" drivel.

TFred
It's only a matter of time until either Dan Casey or MPWpublishes one of theirhit pieces detaiingall of the violence they fantasizes about. I say Dan Casey gets it done first, but the countdown is on...
I think the problem is that now that is's law, we're too close to the "rubber meets the road". We're close enough to implementation now that when the horrors don't come true, people will actually remember "the sky will fall" hype, and their credibility will suffer. People have short memories, but maybe not that short.

Who knows, I guess we'll see. :)

TFred
 

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Glad I was wrong.

Reaching the "age of reason" during the Watergate trials, I have a deep, deep, deep, mistrust of ALL politicians.
That's what you get for agreeing with me:uhoh:
 

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TFred wrote:
Funny, there is no news coverage of this at all. Just the NRA release. I would have expected a whole new round of "blood will flow in the streets" drivel.

TFred
From whom? There are only 2 or 3 left in their stable and its all they can do to keep up with all that's happening much less respond, give them time and they will straggle in. :p

Yata hey
 

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TFred wrote:
Today Dan is on a rant about someone in the McDonnell Administration making it harder for convicted felons to recover their voting rights...

Funny, I bet if it were restoration of gun rights by convicted felons, he would hold quite the opposite opinion.

It begs the question, which right, if misused, can do more harm to society... a vote, or a gun?

TFred

ETA: I left a comment, but it appears to be moderated. I wonder if it'll be approved...
Censorship of the press? Controlling the 1st A? What ever are they thinking?

'scuse me - I forgot its private property - maybe that's why the trash never gets hauled.

Yata hey
 

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Grapeshot wrote:
TFred wrote:
Today Dan is on a rant about someone in the McDonnell Administration making it harder for convicted felons to recover their voting rights...

Funny, I bet if it were restoration of gun rights by convicted felons, he would hold quite the opposite opinion.

It begs the question, which right, if misused, can do more harm to society... a vote, or a gun?

TFred

ETA: I left a comment, but it appears to be moderated. I wonder if it'll be approved...
Censorship of the press? Controlling the 1st A? What ever are they thinking?

'scuse me - I forgot its private property - maybe that's why the trash never gets hauled.

Yata hey
Hey it showed up... along with a bunch of others. The moderator must have taken a long lunch.

TFred
 

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peter nap wrote:
riverrat10k wrote:
Glad I was wrong.

Reaching the "age of reason" during the Watergate trials, I have a deep, deep, deep, mistrust of ALL politicians.
That's what you get for agreeing with me:uhoh:
I learned a couple of valuable lessons from that experience:


"Well, y'know, Ahm jus' an ol' country lawyuh..." Sen. Sam Ervin

"What happened to the money?" - Sen. Paul Trible
 

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user wrote:
peter nap wrote:
riverrat10k wrote:
Glad I was wrong.

Reaching the "age of reason" during the Watergate trials, I have a deep, deep, deep, mistrust of ALL politicians.
That's what you get for agreeing with me:uhoh:
I learned a couple of valuable lessons from that experience:


"Well, y'know, Ahm jus' an ol' country lawyuh..." Sen. Sam Ervin

"What happened to the money?" - Sen. Paul Trible
Are those two statements connected in any way? :D

Yata hey
 

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ed wrote:
“This is a victory for self-defense in Virginia," said Chris W. Cox, executive director of the NRA’s Institute for Legislative Action. “As headlines remind us, violent crime can happen anywhere. Law-abiding Virginia residents now have the option to carry a firearm in restaurants to defend themselves and their loved ones.”
I understand that the NRA takes an us vs. them approach with regards to CCers and OCers, but at least they could make a truthful statement in order to show that they are as knowledgeable as they want people to imagine they are. The option has been there to open carry. The option to carry into a restaurant is not something we just "now" have gotten.

:banghead:
 

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Curtis wrote:
ed wrote:
“This is a victory for self-defense in Virginia," said Chris W. Cox, executive director of the NRA’s Institute for Legislative Action. “As headlines remind us, violent crime can happen anywhere. Law-abiding Virginia residents now have the option to carry a firearm in restaurants to defend themselves and their loved ones.”
I understand that the NRA takes an us vs. them approach with regards to CCers and OCers, but at least they could make a truthful statement in order to show that they are as knowledgeable as they want people to imagine they are. The option has been there to open carry. The option to carry into a restaurant is not something we just "now" have gotten.

:banghead:

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Curtis wrote:
ed wrote:
“This is a victory for self-defense in Virginia," said Chris W. Cox, executive director of the NRA’s Institute for Legislative Action. “As headlines remind us, violent crime can happen anywhere. Law-abiding Virginia residents now have the option to carry a firearm in restaurants to defend themselves and their loved ones.”
I understand that the NRA takes an us vs. them approach with regards to CCers and OCers, but at least they could make a truthful statement in order to show that they are as knowledgeable as they want people to imagine they are. The option has been there to open carry. The option to carry into a restaurant is not something we just "now" have gotten.

:banghead:
I would have be happier with some acknowledgment that "another group" was key in getting this done.

Unwarranted glory-hogging is unseemly.
 

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Glock27Bill wrote:
Curtis wrote:
ed wrote:
“This is a victory for self-defense in Virginia," said Chris W. Cox, executive director of the NRA’s Institute for Legislative Action. “As headlines remind us, violent crime can happen anywhere. Law-abiding Virginia residents now have the option to carry a firearm in restaurants to defend themselves and their loved ones.”
I understand that the NRA takes an us vs. them approach with regards to CCers and OCers, but at least they could make a truthful statement in order to show that they are as knowledgeable as they want people to imagine they are. The option has been there to open carry. The option to carry into a restaurant is not something we just "now" have gotten.

:banghead:
I would have be happier with some acknowledgment that "another group" was key in getting this done.

Unwarranted glory-hogging is unseemly.
+ dishonest, misleading, unethical, and worst of all typical of the NRA.

Yata hey
 

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Grapeshot wrote:
Glock27Bill wrote:
Curtis wrote:
ed wrote:
“This is a victory for self-defense in Virginia," said Chris W. Cox, executive director of the NRA’s Institute for Legislative Action. “As headlines remind us, violent crime can happen anywhere. Law-abiding Virginia residents now have the option to carry a firearm in restaurants to defend themselves and their loved ones.”
I understand that the NRA takes an us vs. them approach with regards to CCers and OCers, but at least they could make a truthful statement in order to show that they are as knowledgeable as they want people to imagine they are. The option has been there to open carry. The option to carry into a restaurant is not something we just "now" have gotten.

:banghead:
I would have be happier with some acknowledgment that "another group" was key in getting this done.

Unwarranted glory-hogging is unseemly.
+ dishonest, misleading, unethical, and worst of all typical of the NRA.

Yata hey
I don't agree with the NRA on a number of things, but we all have to remember that NRA is not the enemy. I think that we can work with the NRA much easier than with Obama, Soros, Peters, etc., etc. Picking the right alliances is a big part of winning.
 

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Not slamming those that will chose to CC - just stating why I will NOT do so.

My personal feeling on CC in restaurants is that it is a comforting option for some, but that it further promotes hiding a legal right - that would seem to run counter to the philosophical premise of OCDO.

Surely no education or normalization opportunity will exist unless others can see your gun.

I say wear it with dignity - it is not a scarlet letter.

Yata hey

Edited to correct opening statement to include"NOT"
 
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