The Tale of Henrico - Chapter 2 in a Ferry Tale - Arrested for following the law

[Grapeshot]

Thanks for the thread in the General forum. I am anxious to help.

Not in the General Forum.

MKEgal cross posted in the HOT Topics with a link to this thread.

She knows what its like to ride the rails of injustice, she has been there and it is no picnic. Support came from far and wide and she prevailed. Hope she has healed - she is one tough lady, I admire her strength and tenacity.

I will talk to Dan and Peter after the sun comes up. We'll look at where we are on this and where we're going - polish up the thinking after reviewing the outline.

Been a long day.

 

[eye95]

Oops...as you say, it is in Hot Topics. Thanks.

 

[Grapeshot]

We are hot with Paypal - set up, verified and confirmed

 

[peter nap]

We are hot with Paypal - set up, verified and confirmed

Great news!

I just posted it on an outdoor sports site!

 

[roscoe13]

We are hot with Paypal - set up, verified and confirmed

Worked for me...

Roscoe

 

[peter nap]

I sold some 9mm recently to start the donations. It was on an outdoor site and they grabbed the bull by the horns and are donating things and having an auction.
Purely does my heart good to see this happening.
http://www.vasportsmen.com/forums/showthread.php?tid=8492&page=3

I think you have to register to see it.

 

[Grapeshot]

Besides the legal fund of which I will be sending a check, is there a separate fund to help him pay non legal bills and feed his family as well or will that be covered by any extra funds left after legal expenses are taken out as long as the check is footnoted as mentioned?

I guess Grapeshot will jump in about that since he set the fund up but I don't know of any personal fund yet. We have discussed some ways to help and I'll let the folks that are involved talk about it if they want. Personal finances can be embarrassing in public. I plan to help as best I can in a discrete way, and others have indicated the same.

Aa Dan Hawes has pointed out in the past, such donations are given w/o conditions. Obviously, the focus and purpose is to provide for a full, aggessive defense and that will be done. However, should there be a bona fide need, funds can be directed to satisfy that - Dan will be aware and in accordance prior to any such action.

This is a hard time and there is no wish to cause Scourcer any embarrassment or discomfort. It is what we do - it is what we will do. He ain't heavy, he's my brother.

Payable to:
Virginia Legal Defense
P.O. Box 100
Broad Run, VA 20137
For Account of Graham C.

or

 

[Grapeshot]

I sold some 9mm recently to start the donations. It was on an outdoor site and they grabbed the bull by the horns and are donating things and having an auction.
Purely does my heart good to see this happening.
http://www.vasportsmen.com/forums/showthread.php?tid=8492&page=3

I think you have to register to see it.

Just registered there - good bunch of people that are standing behind a man they have never met. They read his story, trust one another and decided to make a difference by giving of themselves. Such Virginia gentlemen are hard to beat.

That really warms the cockels of my heart, including the gesture of items just donated for the auction by someone I know.

 

[1245A Defender]

Well,,,

Just registered there - good bunch of people that are standing behind a man they have never met. They read his story, trust one another and decided to make a difference by giving of themselves. Such Virginia gentlemen are hard to beat.

That really warms the cockels of my heart, including the gesture of items just donated for the auction by someone I know.

This will be the third time I donate in your state,, counting Skidmark, Grapeshot, and now my friend Scoucer,
and say Hi to Logan, Im mailing my Money this morning, pretty soon, but today! for sure!

 

[Marco]

Aa Dan Hawes has pointed out in the past, such donations are given w/o conditions. Obviously, the focus and purpose is to provide for a full, aggessive defense and that will be done. However, should there be a bona fide need, funds can be directed to satisfy that - Dan will be aware and in accordance prior to any such action.

This is a hard time and there is no wish to cause Scourcer any embarrassment or discomfort. It is what we do - it is what we will do. He ain't heavy, he's my brother.

Payable to:
Virginia Legal Defense
P.O. Box 100
Broad Run, VA 20137
For Account of Graham C.

or

Posted on VAGT and I hope to see all at the meeting on Tues...

 

[3fgburner]

Aa Dan Hawes has pointed out in the past, such donations are given w/o conditions. Obviously, the focus and purpose is to provide for a full, aggessive defense and that will be done. However, should there be a bona fide need, funds can be directed to satisfy that - Dan will be aware and in accordance prior to any such action.

This is a hard time and there is no wish to cause Scourcer any embarrassment or discomfort. It is what we do - it is what we will do. He ain't heavy, he's my brother.

Done, what I could.

 

[JamesCanby]

Is it me, or is this the intersection of Leesburg Pike (Route 7) and Gallows Rd in Tyson's Corner?

It looks a lot like that corner, as I work less than a block from there.

Yes, I believe it is. I work just north of there, just past the Carwash.

 

[skidmark]

It seems the rumor mill has already been started, and some folks around the innertubz are trying to come up with reasons why Scouser "deserved" to get arrested. Then there are the plain old anti-gun folks who would like to see everybody with a gun (except the cops) get arrested and locked away behind bars made from their melted guns.

We have seen this before in just about every case where somebody got arrested for doing something completely legal and safe. It is just a "fact of life" that some folks will be that way.

Any comment/statement/posting that deals with the facts and specifics of the incident should be run through either Grapeshot or PeterNap who will then get it vetted by user -- you can pretty much take it that un-vetted "statements" are rumor/speculation. It should not be necessary to comment on how rumors/speculation hurt the cause, but ....

It ought to be clear that our position is that Scouser did nothing illegal and therefore did not "deserve" to be arrested and does not "deserve" to be prosecuted. I recognize that at this stage of the game it is still he said/he said. There is no need to pile on.

I'll close with a personal reflection from my own experience - the rumors and attributions of blame/guilt were a greater emotional toll to endure than the frustrations of getting to "Not Guilty".

stay safe.

 

[Grapeshot]

It seems the rumor mill has already been started, and some folks around the innertubz are trying to come up with reasons why Scouser "deserved" to get arrested. Then there are the plain old anti-gun folks who would like to see everybody with a gun (except the cops) get arrested and locked away behind bars made from their melted guns.

We have seen this before in just about every case where somebody got arrested for doing something completely legal and safe. It is just a "fact of life" that some folks will be that way.

Any comment/statement/posting that deals with the facts and specifics of the incident should be run through either Grapeshot or PeterNap who will then get it vetted by user -- you can pretty much take it that un-vetted "statements" are rumor/speculation. It should not be necessary to comment on how rumors/speculation hurt the cause, but ....

It ought to be clear that our position is that Scouser did nothing illegal and therefore did not "deserve" to be arrested and does not "deserve" to be prosecuted. I recognize that at this stage of the game it is still he said/he said. There is no need to pile on.

I'll close with a personal reflection from my own experience - the rumors and attributions of blame/guilt were a greater emotional toll to endure than the frustrations of getting to "Not Guilty".

stay safe.

Well said and your point(s) should be noted by all.

If there is one thing of which we should all be "guilty", it is standing by our friend in his time of need. To that I plead, no contest.

Paper and electronic checks payable to:
Virginia Legal Defense
P.O. Box 100
Broad Run, VA 20137
For Account of Graham C.

or

 

[FreeInAZ]

Well to put it bluntly - Dicky people will always be dicky! If other known people here say this person is a good guy that's good enough for me. The afore mentioned folks (dicky people) are too shallow to formulate the thought of "but for the grace of God go I" so I won't waste it on them. Folks ANYONE can be charged with anything. Innocence be damned! All it takes is one bad apple.

 

[peter nap]

It seems the rumor mill has already been started, and some folks around the innertubz are trying to come up with reasons why Scouser "deserved" to get arrested. Then there are the plain old anti-gun folks who would like to see everybody with a gun (except the cops) get arrested and locked away behind bars made from their melted guns.

We have seen this before in just about every case where somebody got arrested for doing something completely legal and safe. It is just a "fact of life" that some folks will be that way.

Any comment/statement/posting that deals with the facts and specifics of the incident should be run through either Grapeshot or PeterNap who will then get it vetted by user -- you can pretty much take it that un-vetted "statements" are rumor/speculation. It should not be necessary to comment on how rumors/speculation hurt the cause, but ....

It ought to be clear that our position is that Scouser did nothing illegal and therefore did not "deserve" to be arrested and does not "deserve" to be prosecuted. I recognize that at this stage of the game it is still he said/he said. There is no need to pile on.

I'll close with a personal reflection from my own experience - the rumors and attributions of blame/guilt were a greater emotional toll to endure than the frustrations of getting to "Not Guilty".

stay safe.

I haven't bothered to look Skid.
The ex cops on Cast Boolits are probably beating their chests and I'm sure the girls on the Fairfax PD are hiking their skirts up....but who cares!

 

[mobeewan]

Aa Dan Hawes has pointed out in the past, such donations are given w/o conditions. Obviously, the focus and purpose is to provide for a full, aggessive defense and that will be done. However, should there be a bona fide need, funds can be directed to satisfy that - Dan will be aware and in accordance prior to any such action.

This is a hard time and there is no wish to cause Scourcer any embarrassment or discomfort. It is what we do - it is what we will do. He ain't heavy, he's my brother.

Payable to:
Virginia Legal Defense
P.O. Box 100
Broad Run, VA 20137
For Account of Graham C.

or

I'll have a check in the mail soon. Yesterday was payday.

 

[marshaul]

It seems the rumor mill has already been started, and some folks around the innertubz are trying to come up with reasons why Scouser "deserved" to get arrested. Then there are the plain old anti-gun folks who would like to see everybody with a gun (except the cops) get arrested and locked away behind bars made from their melted guns.

We have seen this before in just about every case where somebody got arrested for doing something completely legal and safe. It is just a "fact of life" that some folks will be that way.

Any comment/statement/posting that deals with the facts and specifics of the incident should be run through either Grapeshot or PeterNap who will then get it vetted by user -- you can pretty much take it that un-vetted "statements" are rumor/speculation. It should not be necessary to comment on how rumors/speculation hurt the cause, but ....

It ought to be clear that our position is that Scouser did nothing illegal and therefore did not "deserve" to be arrested and does not "deserve" to be prosecuted. I recognize that at this stage of the game it is still he said/he said. There is no need to pile on.

I'll close with a personal reflection from my own experience - the rumors and attributions of blame/guilt were a greater emotional toll to endure than the frustrations of getting to "Not Guilty".

stay safe.

Considering aggression is the sole reasonable criterion upon which to assign guilt, you and Scouser should take solace in the fact that you are good, moral people, whereas those who say you "deserve" arrest, prosecution, or imprisonment are not.

Simple.

Actually, I was going to ask if you'd share some of these rumors, but then I remembered I don't give a flying **** what such criminally immoral people think or have to say. It's of as much value as last year's dip spit.

 

[Grapeshot]

Considering aggression is the sole reasonable criterion upon which to assign guilt, you and Scouser should take solace in the fact that you are good, moral people, whereas those who say you "deserve" arrest, prosecution, or imprisonment are not.

Simple.

Actually, I was going to ask if you'd share some of these rumors, but then I remembered I don't give a flying **** what such criminally immoral people think or have to say. It's of as much value as last year's dip spit.

I think it also goes to intent - the two concepts are joined at the hip....or at least should be.

 

[skidmark]

Hot deal to help scouser

PM me if you are interested in attending the races at RIR tonight as a way of helping Scouser. I'll be checking my PMs hourly till about 4PM.

stay safe.