I told ya so! I get frustrated when people say cops are basically pro gun

[nuc65]

...A Lynchburg Police Chief wanted mandatory Stop and provide ID or else, because it's another tool to help law enforcement...

In addition the city of Lynchburg had a paid lobbyist there to also speak about how wonderful this bill would be! I hope others from Lynchburg write to express their disgust as I am doing.

I will also launch a complaint in regards to the Hatch Act violation.

 

[TFred]

"Lobbycop on Magazines"

Translation: "Yeah I was totally making stuff up and you caught me."

Richmond's finest, indeed.

TFred

 

[Venator]

Notice the confrontational look on his face when asked a question. Wow. Or is it just me?

 

[Venator]

There is another clip I think where he simply says something ike "The Richmond Police Department Supports or opposes this bill.

I'll find it as soon as I can. I have about 6 hours of these things that need processing and editing. I still have two cameras I haven't downloaded yet.

Thanks for all you do as well. No offense, but buy a Tri-pod from a second hand store or yard sale, just saying.

 

[peter nap]

Thanks for all you do as well. No offense, but buy a Tri-pod from a second hand store or yard sale, just saying.

Sorry you got seasick! Kinda hard to pan from the front.
No need to thank me, believe me!:uhoh:

 

[T Dubya]

Even if the officer was in uniform and spoke for his department, I don't see why that should be condemned.

I do, and I'm going to show you where you are wrong. If this were the sheriff (elected position) or the union that would be one thing, but it's not. RPD had no business sending in a sworn leo to "represent" the leo community.

Here's the deal: Higher-ups in the police department had a hand in this. As a sworn city employee (I am not specifying which city) I can tell you how the game works. This "officer" is on a promotional list. He was tasked with doing somebody else's dirty work. Some of our anti-freedom friends in the Va. Legislature probably reached out to Dwight and asked for this. The brass probably delegated the job to a kiss-ass that wants to get promoted.

I could be wrong, but I'm probably not.

 

[Citizen]

SNIP It's rather mind-numbing that people who we pay to enforce the law think they should be able tell us what the law ought to be.

Oh, my. If they confined themselves to this sort of thing, we'd all be better off.

If you want mind-numbing, follow the blog linked below. The blogger, an experienced attorney, shows excerpts from court opinions from around the country. You'll see lotsa creative ways police decide what the law on the 4th Amendment should really be, then get the courts to go along with it.

http://www.fourthamendment.com/blog/

 

[T Dubya]

moted.

I could be wrong, but I'm probably not.

He's a major. He has gone as far as he's going to go as a white boy in RPD. He's fluffing a resume' to take a chief's job somewhere.

 

[Citizen]

Lets not forget Fairfax County PD multiple times in recent years being opposed to self-defense in county government buildings that also housed district police stations. The PD's desire to eliminate gun carry made it into the Legislative Initiative that Fairfax County lobbyists took to Richmond.

 

[T Dubya]

That's right, lets just revoke voting rights for LEOs. They obviously aren't apart of the democracy we live in. Can a post get anymore ignorant?

Yeah, yours.

 

[peter nap]

I wish you all would quit quoting him. Ignore doesn't knock out his idiotic quotes.

 

[epilogue]

Would a parabolic dish setup (not as ostentatious as the one I posted obviously) help in those rooms at all Peter?

 

[T Dubya]

Notice the confrontational look on his face when asked a question. Wow. Or is it just me?

I noticed, I think he was trying to browbeat someone. He probably thought he could just waltz right in and be credible and go unchallenged. A hero. In reality he is a tyrant that over-stepped his bounds.

 

[peter nap]

Would a parabolic dish setup (not as ostentatious as the one I posted obviously) help in those rooms at all Peter?

No, I have one.
Space is real tight. I can't get behind the tripod and have to work from the front. In order to set uo, I have to stick one tripod leg between two chairs and the other two, just past the chair legs.

Even if it would work better than my shotgun mic, there wouldn't be any to hold it or lock it on target.

 

[T Dubya]

I wish you all would quit quoting him. Ignore doesn't knock out his idiotic quotes.

Yeah, you're right. Thanks for all that you do Peter.

 

[epilogue]

No, I have one.
Space is real tight. I can't get behind the tripod and have to work from the front. In order to set uo, I have to stick one tripod leg between two chairs and the other two, just past the chair legs.

Even if it would work better than my shotgun mic, there wouldn't be any to hold it or lock it on target.

Makes sense. I'm no audio wiz, figured if it worked on football fields with next to no echo, it would work on antis trying to mumble something stupid.

Wish I lived closer to where the GA was held, I'd be a boom-guy in a heartbeat.

 

[KBCraig]

Now I'm wondering if the Hatch Act applies to local law enforcement?

It applies to all federal employes, and all state or local employees that receive any federal funding.

But, there was no violation here. The Hatch Act specifically applies to "partisan political activity" during elections. Influencing legislation is not covered by the Act.

That said, if it's not against state law, PD policy, or state legislature rules, it should be. Appearing in uniform so as to appear to be in an official position, attempting to influence legislation, is improper at best, and downright unethical IMHO.

Now that we've seen the videos, I guess we know what NovaCop10 looks like.

 

[Citizen]

I guess one aspect of the discussion is what an officer's pro-gun stance really means. Wasn't it Chuck Schumer who said he supports the Second Amendment, but when you dig just the tiniest bit you find his "definition" of the 2A is guns for the National Guard or something? The devil is in the details.

Does the subject cop really support constitutional carry? Or, just being able to own a sporting rifle?

 

[All American Nightmare]

That's right, lets just revoke voting rights for LEOs. They obviously aren't apart of the democracy we live in. Can a post get anymore ignorant?

Sure it can!!! posted by you # 12!

That is not correct. I am very pro 2A and the Constitution as you can see by previous posts. I support open carry and concealed carry, although I agree with some gun control. I started posting because I saw some posts with incorrect legal points (from my formal education and experience). I was actually surprised with the overall theme of this VA forum. I thought the members would be patriotic individuals, pro-government, looking to exercise the rights the government has allowed them to have (open carry, etc.). I was surprised to see the overall theme of this site to be somewhat anti-government and anti-LEO. For example, just this past week, I have seen LEOs described as gang members, ignorant, uneducated, and taught to lie. Rarely is there a pro-LEO post, even though LEOs are the ones enforcing the legal system that supports your open carry and there are numerous posts of positive LEO contact. I am against corrupt, and misguided LEOs as much as anyone on this site, however, it seems that LEOs are stereotyped on this site very negatively. I must state that it seems that there is only a small group of posters (bullies if you will) that seem to gang up on anyone who attempts to post on this forum with any viewpoint they disagree with. It has been pointed out numerous times, and has hurt the credibility of the VA forum and site overall. Everyone should be entitled to their own opinion.

You really are defending your post that someone should obtain legal information on this site? You shouldn't be afraid or mad at those who have other viewpoints than your own. You should embrace the opportunity to change their opinion with your posts. http://forum.opencarry.org/forums/s...n-to-a-class-meeting-not-held-on-campus-a-gym

 

[Repeater]

Personal Capacity!

It applies to all federal employes, and all state or local employees that receive any federal funding.

But, there was no violation here. The Hatch Act specifically applies to "partisan political activity" during elections. Influencing legislation is not covered by the Act.

That said, if it's not against state law, PD policy, or state legislature rules, it should be. Appearing in uniform so as to appear to be in an official position, attempting to influence legislation, is improper at best, and downright unethical IMHO.

Now that we've seen the videos, I guess we know what NovaCop10 looks like.

But there's more to it than that.

As I read the OSC web site explaining the Hatch Act, it says that Local employees (including LEOs) can "campaign" or lobby for or against issues and legislation provided they do so in their 'Personal Capacity' -- if cops show up in full uniform and are On-Duty, then they are acting in their 'Official Capacity' -- and that appears to be a Hatch Act violation.