I told ya so! I get frustrated when people say cops are basically pro gun

[peter nap]

I'm almost finished with one clip of him in the M&P Meeting on Morrissey's mag bill.
I'll let you draw your own conclusion about him trying to sway the committee with war stories.

BTW, these rooms are not made to record audio and the anti's know it. They usually sit in a group away from me so I can't get a good lock on what they're saying. I spent $500.00 on a set of smaller recorders to place around the committee rooms this year.

I have to sync the audio to the video so it doesn't look like a Chinese Kung Fu movie and it takes a lot of time. That's why it takes long to process these and up load them.

I'll post it in about ten minutes.

 

[peter nap]

No, I can't answer the question.

However, the evidence is on video. It would be GREAT to see it here!

Hint, Hint ....

Longwood college if you're talking about Vogel's bill.
Yes I have video...........:banghead::banghead:

 

[t33j]

I spent $500.00 on a set of smaller recorders to place around the committee rooms this year.

Do you multiplex them? Just curious.

 

[ProShooter]

My wife, a State Employee, is not allowed to lobby for or against legislation. Why is this police officer allowed to do so? I am not asking for him to lose his job or his voting rights, but a paid employee of the public should not be allowed to lobby. If he is invited in to give expert testimony, I will grant exception. I do not agree to paying him to undermine our rights. That is my disagreement with his appearing.

The real question here in my mind (and one that everyone seems to be missing) is whether or not this one officer appeared as a representative of his agency and LE as a whole, or if he was representing himself and appeared in uniform without the permission of his agency while off duty. This is the question we need to know the answer to.

When I was in LE, there were (way too) many times where someone did something in uniform and wasn't thinking or aware that it was not allowed. Everything from buying beer, lottery tickets, adult movies, grocery shopping, etc. One guy even got in trouble for flipping off the Wawa attendant while pumping gas and chatting on the cell phone while in uniform.

 

[peter nap]

Do you multiplex them? Just curious.

Yeah I do TJ. Then I compress the the entire audio tract to level it out and increase the gain while sampling and removing the noise floor.

Takes a while. Unfortunately, there is some echo in the rooms and there is no way to remove echo.

 

[peter nap]

Lobbycop on Magazines

[video=vimeo;19580169]http://vimeo.com/19580169[/video]http://vimeo.com/19580169

 

[TFred]

The real question here in my mind (and one that everyone seems to be missing) is whether or not this one officer appeared as a representative of his agency and LE as a whole, or if he was representing himself and appeared in uniform without the permission of his agency while off duty. This is the question we need to know the answer to.

I'll put the video up of him speaking on all the bills Tfred.
He did convey the idea that he spoke for the PD and if I recall, at one time he said "The Richmond PD opposes or supports.

I'll get to it as quick as possible.

Peter Nap's video should clarify that for us.

TFred

 

[epilogue]

"(something something something) High capacity rounds."

 

[ProShooter]

Peter Nap's video should clarify that for us.

TFred

Well from the video its not clear if he is representing himself or his department.

add to that, when I was in uniform I carried 46 rounds and I could fire all 46 in less than a minute if I had to. I'm sure many others could as well. His "educated guess" is just that, a guess.

 

[Sheriff]

My department and every other department I have asked, already prohibits drinking and carrying as a violation could mean job termination.

Yeah, we know how well words in a SOP manual work.

In the area in which I live, I would estimate 98% of cops to proclaim they are pro-gun in one on one conversations with the public. But in reality about 98% of them want as many guns out of civilian hands as they can get. I doubt seriously if it's any different in Northern Virginia. Wasn't Northern Virginia the place where a handful of cops recently falsely arrested a handful of citizens lawfully openly carrying?

It's my firm belief that this Richmond cop spoke for the majority of Richmond cops. And he most likely speaks for the majority anywhere in Virginia.

 

[peter nap]

Well from the video its not clear if he is representing himself or his department.

add to that, .

Give me about ten more minutes Jim. He identifies himself in the loophole clip.

 

[epilogue]

BTW, these rooms are not made to record audio and the anti's know it. They usually sit in a group away from me so I can't get a good lock on what they're saying. I spent $500.00 on a set of smaller recorders to place around the committee rooms this year.

If you got one of these, I'd totally do all your audio-collecting gruntwork:

 

[peter nap]

Lobbycop on loopholes

[video=vimeo;19580169]http://vimeo.com/19580169[/video]

 

[ccwinstructor]

Thank you for your dedication!

I'm almost finished with one clip of him in the M&P Meeting on Morrissey's mag bill.
I'll let you draw your own conclusion about him trying to sway the committee with war stories.

BTW, these rooms are not made to record audio and the anti's know it. They usually sit in a group away from me so I can't get a good lock on what they're saying. I spent $500.00 on a set of smaller recorders to place around the committee rooms this year.

I have to sync the audio to the video so it doesn't look like a Chinese Kung Fu movie and it takes a lot of time. That's why it takes long to process these and up load them.

I'll post it in about ten minutes.

I appreciate all of your efforts. It is people like you and the hard work that you are doing that are restoring constitutional government in this country. I salute you! Please keep up the good work!

 

[Repeater]

Great question! Hatch Act applies?

The real question here in my mind (and one that everyone seems to be missing) is whether or not this one officer appeared as a representative of his agency and LE as a whole, or if he was representing himself and appeared in uniform without the permission of his agency while off duty. This is the question we need to know the answer to.

When I was in LE, there were (way too) many times where someone did something in uniform and wasn't thinking or aware that it was not allowed. Everything from buying beer, lottery tickets, adult movies, grocery shopping, etc. One guy even got in trouble for flipping off the Wawa attendant while pumping gas and chatting on the cell phone while in uniform.

Now I'm wondering if the Hatch Act applies to local law enforcement?

Perhaps:

About The Hatch Act - State and Local Employees

Hatch Act: Who is Covered?
State and Local Employees

The Hatch Act restricts the political activity of individuals principally employed by state or local executive agencies and who work in connection with programs financed in whole or in part by federal loans or grants. Usually, employment with a state or local agency constitutes the principal employment of the employee in question. However, when an employee holds two or more jobs, principal employment is generally deemed to be that job which accounts for the most work time and the most earned income.

The following list offers examples of the types of programs which frequently receive financial assistance from the federal government: public health, public welfare, housing, urban renewal and area redevelopment, employment security, labor and industry training, public works, conservation, agricultural, civil defense, transportation, anti-poverty, and law enforcement programs.

Hatch Act provisions also apply to employees of private, nonprofit organizations that plan, develop and coordinate federal Head Start or Community Service Block Grant programs.

State and local employees subject to the Hatch Act continue to be covered while on annual leave, sick leave, leave without pay, administrative leave or furlough.

I believe the RPD receives various grants from the Federal Government.

Here are various activities that are prohibited.

Here are various activities that are permitted.

But see the important qualifier in that second list:

State and Local Employees – Examples of Permitted Activities

Employees may**, for example:

...

• express opinions about candidates and issues
  
• campaign for or against referendum questions, constitutional amendments and/or municipal ordinances
  
• campaign for or against candidates in partisan elections

...

**While engaging in these activities employees must be acting in their personal capacity, not their official capacity. For example, they should not identify their official title when engaging in any of these activities.

So, it would appear the LEOs may, if they wish, speak on various gun control issues before committees at the General Assembly, provided that they do so in their Personal Capacity.

Advocating gun control in their Official Capacity, and denying us our RKBA, would seem to be a Hatch Act violation.

The is a serious matter. For example,

Deputy clerk resigns due to Hatch Act violation

Moffat County Chief Deputy Clerk Lila Herod will resign from her position with the county in order to run for county clerk and recorder in November.

Herod announced her decision Tuesday to the Daily Press in a news release.

The Hatch Act was enacted in 1939 to cover federal employees and then amended in 1940, adding state and local employees.

According to the U.S. Office of Special Counsel, which oversees the Hatch Act, the legislation “restricts the political activity of individuals principally employed by state or local executive agencies and who work in connection with programs financed in whole or in part by federal loans or grants.”

If you read down further, you will see some municipal employee whining: "(The Hatch Act) is archaic,” Ponikvar said. “It’s hurting our counties, and I think there should be something totally bipartisan because it’s hurting officials from every party in the state ... ."

 

[Repeater]

I appreciate all of your efforts. It is people like you and the hard work that you are doing that are restoring constitutional government in this country. I salute you! Please keep up the good work!

I second that! It is a great asset to record what they say against Liberty.

 

[Wolf_shadow]

In this clip he identifies himself as a major for Richmond PD, but makes the statement "I fully support this bill". He doesn't say Richmond PD the My department. Appears to me he is trying to use his position to gain favor.

:cuss:

 

[peter nap]

In this clip he identifies himself as a major for Richmond PD, but makes the statement "I fully support this bill". He doesn't say Richmond PD the My department. Appears to me he is trying to use his position to gain favor.

:cuss:

There is another clip I think where he simply says something ike "The Richmond Police Department Supports or opposes this bill.

I'll find it as soon as I can. I have about 6 hours of these things that need processing and editing. I still have two cameras I haven't downloaded yet.

 

[vt357]

Now I'm wondering if the Hatch Act applies to local law enforcement?

Perhaps:
...
So, it would appear the LEOs may, if they wish, speak on various gun control issues before committees at the General Assembly, provided that they do so in their Personal Capacity.

Advocating gun control in their Official Capacity, and denying us our RKBA, would seem to be a Hatch Act violation.

So what you're saying is that if he was there on his own time, and used his position by showing up in uniform and identifying himself by his rank, he was himself in violation of the Hatch Act. And if he was there representing the RPD, both he and possibly the department may be in violation?

 

[Wolf_shadow]

There is another clip I think where he simply says something ike "The Richmond Police Department Supports or opposes this bill.

I'll find it as soon as I can. I have about 6 hours of these things that need processing and editing. I still have two cameras I haven't downloaded yet.

Peter Thank you for all you do with video editing and all. Wish I could help you but I don't have the skill you do. I've done a couple small video for family and friends and they'er no where near a good as yours.
:lol: