HB 910 - Licensed Open Carry - Officially Passed Out of Texas House of Representative

[Ian]

Thank you for following up with them! It's important that we make people aware that open carry has not passed yet. Many friends have asked me, "so does open carry go into effect in September or January?" And I tell them, "it hasn't passed yet!" They are genuinely surprised. This is why I don't like the way the legislature is set up. For the first few months, they cannot pass anything by law so they hardly do anything except for pomp and circumstance in the general assembly. Then, toward the end of the session, everyone is scrambling around and things are getting done at the last minute. It's quite frustrating.

 

[ccwinstructor]

It has passed out of the Senate Committee, but without the Amendment

Thank you for following up with them! It's important that we make people aware that open carry has not passed yet. Many friends have asked me, "so does open carry go into effect in September or January?" And I tell them, "it hasn't passed yet!" They are genuinely surprised. This is why I don't like the way the legislature is set up. For the first few months, they cannot pass anything by law so they hardly do anything except for pomp and circumstance in the general assembly. Then, toward the end of the session, everyone is scrambling around and things are getting done at the last minute. It's quite frustrating.

From a Texas forum, it looks like it has passed out of the committee, but the Dutton Amendment from the House, that prevents officers from stopping open carriers without probable cause, was stripped from it. If it passes in the full senate without the amendment, then it will have to go back to the House, I think.

The Senate might be able to pass an amendment returning HB 910 to the form passed by the House. If it does that, then it would go to the Governor.

 

[Ian]

Why would they take that amendment out? If anything, it would probably prevent lawsuits filed against police departments for officers detaining people without cause. For crying out loud, they need to just pass this thing already.

 

[stealthyeliminator]

Personally, I will be glad if the bill passes without the amendment. I would prefer the law be concise. It's already the case that they should not stop or detain OCers just for the purpose of checking papers, so in my opinion the amendment would just present a redundancy in the law that could potentially cause unfortunate inconsistencies down the line.

LE can be educated. Some might stubbornly choose the hard way, but given that the amendment didn't provide penalty for LE in violation I'm not sure it would have really helped anyway, any more than what we currently have.

 

[Ian]

Either way, they need to stop making changes to the bill and just get it through.

 

[solus]

Personally, I will be glad if the bill passes without the amendment. I would prefer the law be concise. It's already the case that they should not stop or detain OCers just for the purpose of checking papers, so in my opinion the amendment would just present a redundancy in the law that could potentially cause unfortunate inconsistencies down the line.

LE can be educated. Some might stubbornly choose the hard way, but given that the amendment didn't provide penalty for LE in violation I'm not sure it would have really helped anyway, any more than what we currently have.

stealth, now i'm truly confused because on another forum thread, you are pushing lawsuit(s) to quote ...hold DPS accountable unquote for past DPS sins when they harassed nine OC'ers over an 18 month period, (charges for 7 were dropped) and here you are stating you are glad an amendment attached to the new OC privilege card to prevent exactly this type of harassment type transgressions from occurring.

then you state, LEs can be educated...instigated by further lawsuits??

ipse

 

[stealthyeliminator]

Either way, they need to stop making changes to the bill and just get it through.

Yep! I agree completely.

 

[California Right To Carry]

Reported favorably as substituted 05/19/2015 - 12:43 PM PST

I received an email update from the Texas Legislature Online notification saying that HB 910 made it through committee. I do not know the intricate details of the Texas legislative process but in my state a bill amended in the Senate after being passed in the house has to go back to the house for a vote by the house before going to the governor.

Either way, it seems to me that this bill is fast reaching the point of not being passed.

Don't kill the messenger.

 

[nonameisgood]

As I said previously, both houses can say "we passed it" without actually implementing OC. Satisfies both kinds of inattentive voters. Seems to be a negotiated or planned failure, much like a conspiracy to deceive voters. Or maybe they just don't care either way.


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[splatter]

Texas web site says ?

I was led to believe that if the open carry bill is passed in the senate with different wording, that they send people from the House and Senate to work out the difference and then send it to Abbot to sign and make it law? Is that how it works ?

 

[Ian]

I was led to believe that if the open carry bill is passed in the senate with different wording, that they send people from the House and Senate to work out the difference and then send it to Abbot to sign and make it law? Is that how it works ?

That is a possible method that is listed on the Texas Legislature website, but the legislative process being as inherently complicated as it is, nobody could say for sure what was or is still going to happen. This is exactly why I was telling everyone a few months ago not to get all excited yet when the bill passed through the House and later the Senate since it still had a long way to go.

 

[nonameisgood]

As I understand it, even though both houses passed the same wording, because they were not the exact same bill they cannot take it to a conference committee to work it out. By each passing their own bill (hB910, sb17) instead of waiting and passing a bill already passed by the other body, despite being described by the legislature's website as "identical", this is the result.


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[Harleyman007]

Hb-910

That is a possible method that is listed on the Texas Legislature website, but the legislative process being as inherently complicated as it is, nobody could say for sure what was or is still going to happen. This is exactly why I was telling everyone a few months ago not to get all excited yet when the bill passed through the House and later the Senate since it still had a long way to go.

HB-910 is on the intent calendar for the full Senate vote tomorrow 05/21/2015

 

[Ian]

As I understand it, even though both houses passed the same wording, because they were not the exact same bill they cannot take it to a conference committee to work it out. By each passing their own bill (hB910, sb17) instead of waiting and passing a bill already passed by the other body, despite being described by the legislature's website as "identical", this is the result.


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This looks like the correct answer. Since the House decided to work on their own bill instead of the one that the Senate sent to them, they weren't able to use the conference committee.

 

[Count]

HB910 will be eligible for the Senate floor tomorrow! We need to contact lt gov Dan Patrick to make it happen: https://www.ltgov.state.tx.us/

 

[rodbender]

I will be totally 100% surprised if this actually passes. As I said a long time ago and then left this forum for a good bit of time; the Texas legislature is full of weenies that will not pass OC until it is forced to do so. As close as this is to passing at this moment, I stand by my statement. You guys are a bunch of fools, I mean Fools. Forgot the capital F.

 

[deepdiver]

Even though I don't live in TX I find this continued momentum rather exciting. I do have a couple friends in TX I want to visit in the near future and it would be great to OC while there.

 

[Count]

Urgent call to action from TSRA

Urgent Action!

HB 910 by Rep. Larry Phillips (R-Sherman)/Sen. Craig Estes (R-Wichita Falls) This week Licensed Open Carry passed out of Senate State Affairs Committee and is now listed on the Senate Intent Calendar. The measure could be eligible for the Senate floor as early as Friday. Contact your State Senator and the Lt. Governor in support of HB 910, see links below. The bill must move through the Senate quickly and return to the House one last time for concurrence on Senate changes.

SB 273 by Sen. Donna Campbell (R-New Braunfels)/Rep. Ryan Guillen (D-Rio Grande City) is set on the House Calendar for May 22nd. This measure would allow for fines on governmental entities who improperly post PC 30.06 or significantly similar signs to prohibit licensees from public property, not off-limits in the Penal Code. The measure passed in the House and Senate last session but was lost due to an over-reaching Senate amendment. Contact your State Rep. and Speaker Joe Straus on this bill, see links below.

SB 11 by Sen. Brian Birdwell (R-Granbury)/Rep. Allen Fletcher (R-Tomball)-Campus Carry is still in Calendars Committee. Contact your State Rep.and Speaker Joe Straus on this bill, see links below. This important personal protection bill must move quickly.

SB 476 by Sen. Kolkhorst (R-New Braunfels)/ Rep. Charlie Geren (R-Fort Worth)-CLEO sign-off for suppressors and other Class 3 devices. SB 476 is currently in House Calendars.
Contact your State Rep. and Speaker Joe Straus on this bill, see links below. We need this bill to move quickly.

HB 849 by Rep. Chris Paddie (R-Marshall)
a bill which provides two sales tax holidays for Texas hunters, must have a hearing in Senate Finance committee and then pass on the Senate floor to complete the process. Contact your State Senator and Lt. Governor Dan Patrick on this bill, see links below. We need this bill to move quickly.

Members, Act Today!

 

[canvasbck]

CALL LT. GOV Patrick's OFFICE NOW!!!!!!! 512-463-0001

Texas CHL forum members are currently flooding the phones. The lady answering the phones is erroneously stating that HB910 must be on the intent calender for 2 full days. THIS INFORMATION IS NOT CORRECT.

The rules on the intent calender state "No bill or resolution may be considered on its first day on the Intent Calendar"

Also, May 22 (today) is the first day that the Senate may consider bills on their first day on the intent calendar.

Please (POLITELY) inform the lady that her information is not correct according to the published rules. Be brief and courteous.

 

[carstensxd45]

What a mess! When I try the phone number, I get transferred to an operator who then transfers me supposedly to Lt. Gov Dan Patrick office, they don't answer and it starts the transfer cycle all over again, lastly it disconnects the call altogether. Start the whole process all over again. Talk about getting the run around! !! They are going to let it die and don't want to hear from you, the voter!