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[TexasNative]

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The City of New Orleans (and I believe the Chief of Police and Mayor were also defendents) was found by a judge to have illegally confiscated those guns since they had no authority to do so. Does that help you not be such a weasel?

 

[wylde007]

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LEO 229 wrote:

I am not happy about it. But I lack the knowledge to know if it was done under some legal process that could allow it to happen in an emergency.

Namely: none.

 

[para_org]

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What is an "anti-member" ? I am not familar with this term.

 

[wehrmachtXD40_COLT45]

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I believe this entire bashing of LEO 229 is quite ill placed. Officers, are issued what is called discretion. An officer literally can do anything illegal in nature, as long as he or she isn't aware of its being illegal.... i.e.. false arrest. BUT if at any point he or she realizes he is in the wrong, he must cease and desist the action. If this is done is covered by the department and not held responsible. "at least here in bluefield pd anyway"

Merely providing an opinion is just that. I have seen no post he has made that i wouldn't agree with in the field. I have never had to disarm anyone so I cannot speak from experience on that matter, primarily because its an extremely small town and I know everyone.

Take it or leave it, a officer is trying to give two hoots about you. I wouldnt take it for granted. Just read what he sais and sthu, or skip it. No need to crap in the same litter pan.

 

[LEO 229]

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wylde007 wrote:

LEO 229 wrote:

I am not happy about it. But I lack the knowledge to know if it was done under some legal process that could allow it to happen in an emergency.

Namely: none.

Ya.. I would tend to agree... But what do I know. I am a government employee and I do not know anything... according to the board.

So I will assume I know nothing and play it safe. :lol:

 

[LEO 229]

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para_org wrote:

What is an "anti-member" ? I am not familar with this term.

Um, You?

:celebrate

 

[LEO 229]

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wehrmachtXD40_COLT45 wrote:

I believe this entire bashing of LEO 229 is quite ill placed. Officers, are issued what is called discretion. An officer literally can do anything illegal in nature, as long as he or she isn't aware of its being illegal.... i.e.. false arrest. BUT if at any point he or she realizes he is in the wrong, he must cease and desist the action. If this is done is covered by the department and not held responsible. "at least here in bluefield pd anyway"

Merely providing an opinion is just that. I have seen no post he has made that i wouldn't agree with in the field. I have never had to disarm anyone so I cannot speak from experience on that matter, primarily because its an extremely small town and I know everyone.

Take it or leave it, a officer is trying to give two hoots about you. I wouldnt take it for granted. Just read what he sais and sthu, or skip it. No need to crap in the same litter pan.

I am their whipping boy.

Some want to fight the government and I am as close as they can get. Their anonymity cannot extend beyond the internet and the government is not logging on. So I am all they got!! :lol:

What is the phrase... "Don't bite the hand that feeds you!" ???

They see the information and will use it but their basic instincts are to attack and kill the person providing it free of charge.

They do not have to accept it or believe it. You and I know that it is valid stuff. But still... their basic human emotions are racing out and they cannot help it. They want to club the bearer to death. :shock:

I do not see many other LEOs here taking time to chat and answer questions that are not clearly biased due to being fired. :lol:

 

[LovingMySig]

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Hey, LEO 229I was thinking of ocing my p228 "which my dad just bought for me not to long ago as my bday present " see I just recently turned 18 and I was thinking of open carrying the 228. but the thing is, im kind of worried about getting pulled over. willI get in trouble for open carrying it loaded with one in the pipe? and what will happen ifI get pulled over during a traffic stop?

 

[para_org]

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LEO 229 wrote:

para_org wrote:

What is an "anti-member" ? I am not familar with this term.

Um, You?

:celebrate

And you wonder why you are picked on, or protest that the comments are based on your being a "...government employee".

Double geesh.

 

[LEO 229]

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para_org wrote:

LEO 229 wrote:

para_org wrote:

What is an "anti-member" ? I am not familar with this term.

Um, You?

:celebrate

And you wonder why you are picked on, or protest that the comments are based on your being a "...government employee".

Double geesh.

You admit people "pick on me" here??

Sounds like school bullies to me.

They sucked then.... and now. :lol:

Chumps!!

 

[LEO 229]

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LovingMySig wrote:

Hey, LEO 229I was thinking of ocing my p228 "which my dad just bought for me not to long ago as my bday present " see I just recently turned 18 and I was thinking of open carrying the 228. but the thing is, im kind of worried about getting pulled over. willI get in trouble for open carrying it loaded with one in the pipe? and what will happen ifI get pulled over during a traffic stop?

Why carry if it is not loaded and ready to fire??

If you got stopped? Probably your age will come into question. Most people think you need to be 21 to have a handgun. We know here that you have to be 18... but 21 to buy from a FFL dealer.

There is no law that I am aware of that says you cannot OC and have it loaded.. with one in the pipe.


Disclaimer: Please check all local and state laws before packing a loaded handgun openly or otherwise.

 

[para_org]

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LEO 229 wrote:

para_org wrote:

LEO 229 wrote:

para_org wrote:

What is an "anti-member" ? I am not familar with this term.

Um, You?

:celebrate

And you wonder why you are picked on, or protest that the comments are based on your being a "...government employee".

Double geesh.

You admit people "pick on me" here??

Sounds like school bullies to me.

They sucked then.... and now. :lol:

Chumps!!

As I am sure you already know; people will pick on you ONLY if they like you first. (Or feel that you can be redeemed.)

 

[LEO 229]

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para_org wrote:

As I am sure you already know; people will pick on you ONLY if they like you first. (Or feel that you can be redeemed.)

So you're saying you like me....?? ::Blushing::

 

[para_org]

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LEO 229 wrote:

para_org wrote:

As I am sure you already know; people will pick on you ONLY if they like you first. (Or feel that you can be redeemed.)

So you're saying you like me....?? ::Blushing::

Nope.

 

[acrimsontide]

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LEO, don't you reaize that we would be better off if there were no laws and no LEOs? Then we could justtake what we want, wouldn't matter if it was ours or not. Need a liitle money, just make a "withdrawal" from a bank at gun point. Need anew car? Heck the neighbor just bought one, take it. Don't likeour neighbors, just shoot him/her (or maybe the neighbor doesn't like us) Those traffic lights, traffic laws, and LEOs to enforce themare unnecessary. Wouldn't it be fun to drive to work in a free for all every day? Trespassing laws, throw them out the window. We could defend our own homes, unless of course there was a large group of tespassers, then let the more powerful win. WOW what a great society that would be. You know ALL cops are evil, so let's abolish the job.

And of course that would prevent you from giving false information to guide us to break the law since there wouldn't be any to break. I'm curious too as to how you know who we all are and where we will be when we break the law so you can catch us after giving us the misinformation? :?

Oh well, I've probably been sarcastic enough in this post but it wasall in fun. Even the anti LEO group wouldn't want to live under those conditions, at leastI don't think they would.


But then think of the money we could save. No Police academies, no lawyers, no law schools or professors, no courthouses or judges, no licensing departments, no jails, no one to put up or maintain traffic lights, etc, etc

 

[Sheriff]

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LEO 229 wrote:

I do not see many other LEOs here taking time to chat and answer questions that are not clearly biased due to being fired. :lol:

Why do you keep bringing me up in threads?

As you may or may not know, there's two kinds of getting fired in Virginia sheriff's departments: 1) deputy sheriffswho do illegal things, get caught, get fired, and perhaps even go to jail, or 2) deputy sheriffs who by Virginia law have no job protection whatsoever. A sheriff can hire and fire at will, at any time, with or without cause. I worked for 5 sheriffs before the 6th new incoming sheriff decided he didn't like me..... and trust me, I liked him even less.Somewhere between finally getting out of diapers and graduating high school you should have learned this is commonly known as a "personality conflict". It happens very often in sheriff's departments in Virginia.

Furthermore, I suppose I made the sheriff fire me. I didn't give him a choice. I was fired for "contempt of sheriff", challenging his authority. Combined with the fact I was already wearing a badge pinned on my chest from another Sheriff's Office a week before he finally got up enough nerve to terminate my employment.

Biased in my thoughts? I don't think so. For almost 30 years I watched cops tell white liesin court. I wached some cops flat out lie faster than they could down a shot of whiskey. And even more recently, while having to deal with two false arrests myself, you really have to wonder why the judges felt I was telling the truth andthe cops were lying under oath. The icing on the cake was when the cops couldn't get even get their lies straight. I have a trial tanscript laying on my desk right now where a judge stated in open court, and while still on record, that he couldn't believe the cop's testimony was so "diametrically opposed to one another". I'll copy the page and send it to you if you like. In another trial the judge returned to chambers and told his bailiff, "I can't believe the entire chain of command from the police department came into my courtroom and lied on Sheriff!" He was furious. He also shortly retired after this trial, he had seen enough.

Annd always remember one thing.... even though a police officer has a little more protection under the law than a deputy sheriff does, if you piss off the right police chief sooner or later, you too can be fired in a heartbeat. My cop brother-in-law thought it was hilarious whenIgot fired. He, as a married man, was later fired forproblems with his girlfriend(s). But we're also pretty surehis direct involvement in my first false arrest wasdirecty related to his firing as well. The police chief was looking for a reason to get rid of him. Just like my sheriff was. :lol:

 

[Citizen]

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Sheriff wrote:

SNIP Why do you keep bringing me up in threads?

I've got to hand it to you, Sheriff. Your statements,follow-ups, and clarifications seem to hang together better than another LEO on this forum.

That is not to say I've examined everything you've written, but what I have read hangs together a lot better than that other LEO. Much of the time, his first clarification already is misaligned or contradicted by something in his earlier post.

Which just brought something to mind for me. None of the other LEOs have so much trouble keeping their follow up stuff aligned with their earlier post. Hmmmmmm. Wonder why this one LEO has this problem? (rhetorical question)

 

[Sheriff]

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Citizen wrote:

Sheriff wrote:

SNIP Why do you keep bringing me up in threads?

I've got to hand it to you, Sheriff. Your statements,follow-ups, and clarifications seem to hang together better than another LEO on this forum.

That is not to say I've examined everything you've written, but what I have read hangs together a lot better than that other LEO. Much of the time, his first clarification already is misaligned or contradicted by something in his earlier post.

Which just brought something to mind for me. None of the other LEOs have so much trouble keeping their follow up stuff aligned with their earlier post. Hmmmmmm. Wonder why this one LEO has this problem? (rhetorical question)

LEO proves one thing I have always preached. Namely, a cop's worst enemy is another cop. Cops will do anything to make themselves look good, even if it means making others looking bad. You should see the foolishness that takes place when there's a few promotional opportunities within a police department or sheriff's department.

 

[nova]

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hlh wrote:

Sheriff wrote:

LEO proves one thing I have always preached. Namely, a cop's worst enemy is another cop. Cops will do anything to make themselves look good, even if it means making others looking bad. You should see the foolishness that takes place when there's a few promotional opportunities within a police department or sheriff's department.

Sounds like jobs in the coporate world.

Huh? You mean cops are PEOPLE just like the rest of us? :lol:

 

[Citizen]

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nova wrote:

Huh? You mean cops are PEOPLE just like the rest of us? :lol:

You were doing fine until you got to the part about, "...just like the rest of us."