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Permit arrived!!

bravo95

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Finally Came !!!!

Mailed: Nov 3

Check Cleared: Nov 18

No permit yet as of 12-6

Sent DD214 from Enduring Freedom and Noble Eagle, lol.
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Recieved permit today 12-15-2011, I was in the 25,000. My wife ran around the house laughing and wouldn't give it me, was pretty classic, lol.;)
 

TGP

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Don't Buy List

Here is a well organized website Don't Buy List for Wisconsin, updated frequently by CCW permit holder observations:

http://wisconsingunowners.org/dont-buy-list/

Submit names of businesses not allowing firearms with CCW on their premises to the Don't Buy List website. The website also sends a letter to the business telling them that they have been posted to the website. The list is then widely distributed and posted in Los nd other conspicuous places for all to see.
 
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TGP

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Don't Buy List

Still no permit. Mailed 11/1/11 from Sparta.
 
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TGP

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Will the PO forward the CCW to a temp forwarding address?

Mailed 11/1/11
DD214 & Retired Fed LE Creds
Check cashed 11/15/11
Nothing yet

I'm temporarily out of state with a temp forwarding address on file in Norwalk. Will the PO forward the license to a temp forwarding address?

For those who rec'd their permits did the envelope say "Do Not Forward" in the upper left corner or anywhere on the envelope?
 
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Nam-Vet

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Mailed 11/1/11
DD214 & Retired Fed LE Creds
Check cashed 11/15/11
Nothing yet

I'm temporarily out of state with a temp forwarding address on file in Norwalk. Will the PO forward the license to a temp forwarding address?

For those who rec'd their permits did the envelope say "Do Not Forward" in the upper left corner or anywhere on the envelope?

Just checked mine, nothing on about do not foward. Hope yours comes soon man.
 

TGP

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From Oshkosh News (thenorthwestern.com)

As deadlines to process concealed carry applications approach, the state Department of Justice says its resources are being stretched to the limit.

The DOJ has been asking employees to work overtime and is pulling employees from other units to assist the firearms unit, which is responsible for processing the applications.

About 24 people from other units work on processing concealed carry applications at any given time, in addition to the 11 employees in the firearms unit, DOJ spokeswoman Dana Brueck said.

Workers are checking that applications are complete, have related documents and do not note a felony conviction.

The state Legislature provided the department with enough funding to hire one full-time employee and 10 part-time employees, who would work from November to March, to process applications. That wasn't enough, Brueck said.

"We have shifted people to (process applications) from other areas due to the lack of personnel provided … and due to the aggressive deadlines under which we need to process applications for this brand new program," Brueck said.

The Legislature allowed the DOJ 45 days to process applications submitted between Nov. 1 and Dec. 1. The department has 21 days to process applications received after Dec. 1.

During the first two weeks of December, the DOJ received an average of 860 applications each day it received mail. The department had received 55,747 applications as of Dec. 11, Brueck said.

Some of the employees brought in were part of the department's Handgun Hotline unit, which approves the sale of handguns. Gun dealers must call the hotline before they sell a handgun, and the hotline must respond to calls within 48 hours.

Because some people are being asked to assist the firearms unit, fewer employees are available to respond to calls, which have increased by 52.9 percent over last year. November was the hotline's busiest month on record with 10,656 calls — an average of 400 calls per day, Brueck said.

The addition of 11 new part-time employees will help alleviate the strain, Brueck said. The new employees are expected to join the firearms unit from January through the end of June.

From Oshkosh News (thenorthwestern.com)

As deadlines to process concealed carry applications approach, the state Department of Justice says its resources are being stretched to the limit.

The DOJ has been asking employees to work overtime and is pulling employees from other units to assist the firearms unit, which is responsible for processing the applications.

About 24 people from other units work on processing concealed carry applications at any given time, in addition to the 11 employees in the firearms unit, DOJ spokeswoman Dana Brueck said.

Workers are checking that applications are complete, have related documents and do not note a felony conviction.

The state Legislature provided the department with enough funding to hire one full-time employee and 10 part-time employees, who would work from November to March, to process applications. That wasn't enough, Brueck said.

"We have shifted people to (process applications) from other areas due to the lack of personnel provided … and due to the aggressive deadlines under which we need to process applications for this brand new program," Brueck said.

The Legislature allowed the DOJ 45 days to process applications submitted between Nov. 1 and Dec. 1. The department has 21 days to process applications received after Dec. 1.

During the first two weeks of December, the DOJ received an average of 860 applications each day it received mail. The department had received 55,747 applications as of Dec. 11, Brueck said.

Some of the employees brought in were part of the department's Handgun Hotline unit, which approves the sale of handguns. Gun dealers must call the hotline before they sell a handgun, and the hotline must respond to calls within 48 hours.

Because some people are being asked to assist the firearms unit, fewer employees are available to respond to calls, which have increased by 52.9 percent over last year. November was the hotline's busiest month on record with 10,656 calls — an average of 400 calls per day, Brueck said.

The addition of 11 new part-time employees will help alleviate the strain, Brueck said. The new employees are expected to join the firearms unit from January through the end of June.

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The initial 10 part-time employees will finish working with the department in March. Afterward, the department hopes to have 14½ positions filled — including two employees in information technology who will work to streamline the application process and "provide a more user-friendly experience" for applicants, Brueck said.

Despite the current lack of personnel and influx of applications, the department so far has been able to meet all deadlines, Brueck said.

"We're meeting our deadlines, and that is our goal," she said. "People are working long hours and working weekends. All applications received before Dec. 1 will be processed within the 45-day timeframe."

The deadline to process the 145 applications submitted on Nov. 1 was Friday, but the agency already had approved 123 permits on the same day they were received. Applications submitted during the first few weeks after the law took effect must be processed in the next few weeks.

Applications submitted after Dec. 1 must be processed within 21 days, and the shorter timeframe might be more difficult to meet, Brueck said.

"Those (applications) that fall within the 21-day deadline … will be more of a challenge, but we are doing everything we can to meet that deadline and to ensure they're processed in as timely a fashion as possible," she said. "It's too early to say that there will be issues, but we're conscious of the short turn-around time."

It can take the DOJ at least one or two weeks to process an application that includes all the required documentation. But some applicants' background checks require the department to ask for information from a court system.

"For apps that generate hits in the background check, we have to do further investigation and can't always control the time," Brueck said.

The DOJ had processed 25,117 applications as of Dec. 11 — about 45 percent of all applications received. Of the processed applications, 24,821 were approved and 296, about 1.2 percent, were denied.

Most of the denials were because of mismatching addresses in the applications, Brueck said.

"Almost all of those denials have been due to an address mismatch, which means the address on the application doesn't match the address on file" with the state Department of Transportation, she said. "When that happens, the applicant is notified. If the situation is resolved, that application is then returned to the front of the pile, so to speak."

Fewer than 24 of the denials were because of criminal records that disqualified the applicant from receiving a permit, Brueck said.

Disqualifications include felony convictions or being prohibited from possessing a weapon as a condition of bail. Applicants must be at least 21 years old and show proof of firearms training.

For applications missing documentation, such as the payment of $50 or proof of training, the application is sent back to the applicant, but he or she can reapply, Brueck said.
 
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TGP

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Mailed 11/1/11 from Sparta
DD214 and retired Fed LE Creds
Check cashed 11/15/11
STill nothing!

Rec'd CCW today, Monday, 12/19/11, at my temporary address in CA.
Mailed 11/1/11 from Sparta
Rec'd at DoJ 11/3/11
Issued 12/8/11
Sent 12/12/11
Forwarded from Norwalk, WI 12/15/11
Rec'd in CA 12/19/11
Permit Number 227XX
CCW permit issued 38 days from mailing and 36 days from the date DoJ received my application.
 

The_Pennsylvanian

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Marshfield, WI
Got mine ! ! !

:banana: :shocker: :monkeyForms mailed : 12/02/11

check cleared : ???? ( baby and life got in the way )

License Issued : 12/15/11

Arrived In Mail : 12/19/11

License # 274XX



Now to pick up that 1911 I've been eyeing up !:monkey:banana::shocker:
 
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TGP

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This Could Happen in America, too!

PROTECT YOUR 2ND AMENDMENT RIGHTS! This story tells what happened in England over the past century: It could happen in America if we are not diligent!

You're sound asleep when you hear a thump outside your bedroom door. Half-awake, and nearly paralyzed with fear, you hear muffled whispers.

At least two people have broken into your house and are moving your way.

With your heart pumping, you reach down beside your bed and pick up your shotgun.

You rack a shell into the chamber, then inch toward the door and open it. In the darkness, you make out two shadows.

One holds something that looks like a crowbar. When the intruder brandishes it as if to strike, you raise the shotgun and fire.

The blast knocks both thugs to the floor. One writhes and screams while the second man crawls to the front door and lurches outside. As you pick up the telephone to call police, you know you're in trouble.

In your country, most guns were outlawed years before, and the few that are privately owned are so stringently regulated as to make them useless..

Yours was never registered. Police arrive and inform you that the second burglar has died.

They arrest you for First Degree Murder and Illegal Possession of a Firearm. When you talk to your attorney, he tells you not to worry: authorities will probably plea the case down to manslaughter.

"What kind of sentence will I get?" you ask. "Only ten-to-twelve years," he replies, as if that's nothing.

"Behave yourself, and you'll be out in seven."

The next day, the shooting is the lead story in the local newspaper.

Somehow, you're portrayed as an eccentric vigilante while the two men you shot are represented as choirboys.

Their friends and relatives can't find an unkind word to say about them..

Buried deep down in the article, authorities acknowledge that both "victims" have been arrested numerous times.

But the next day's headline says it all: "Lovable Rogue Son Didn't Deserve to Die." The thieves have been transformed from career criminals into Robin Hood-type pranksters..

As the days wear on, the story takes wings. The national media picks it up, then the international media.

The surviving burglar has become a folk hero.

Your attorney says the thief is preparing to sue you, and he'll probably win.

The media publishes reports that your home has been burglarized several times in the past and that you've been critical of local police for their lack of effort in apprehending the suspects.

After the last break-in, you told your neighbor that you would be prepared next time.

The District Attorney uses this to allege that you were lying in wait for the burglars.

A few months later, you go to trial. The charges haven't been reduced, as your lawyer had so confidently predicted.

When you take the stand, your anger at the injustice of it all works against you..

Prosecutors paint a picture of you as a mean, vengeful man.

It doesn't take long for the jury to convict you of all charges.

The judge sentences you to life in prison.

This case really happened.

On August 22, 1999, Tony Martin of Emneth, Norfolk, England, killed one burglar and wounded a second.

In April, 2000, he was convicted and is now serving a life term..

How did it become a crime to defend one's own life in the once great British Empire ?

It started with the Pistols Act of 1903. This seemingly reasonable law forbade selling pistols to minors or felons and established that handgun sales were to be made only to those who had a license. The Firearms Act of 1920 expanded licensing to include not only handguns but all firearms except shotguns..

Later laws passed in 1953 and 1967 outlawed the carrying of any weapon by private citizens and mandated the registration of all shotguns.

Momentum for total handgun confiscation began in earnest after the Hungerford mass shooting in 1987. Michael Ryan, a mentally disturbed man with a Kalashnikov rifle, walked down the streets shooting everyone he saw.

When the smoke cleared, 17 people were dead.

The British public, already de-sensitized by eighty years of "gun control", demanded even tougher restrictions. (The seizure of all privately owned handguns was the objective even though Ryan used a rifle.)

Nine years later, at Dunblane, Scotland, Thomas Hamilton used a semi-automatic weapon to murder 16 children and a teacher at a public school.

For many years, the media had portrayed all gun owners as mentally unstable, or worse, criminals. Now the press had a real kook with which to beat up law-abiding gun owners.
Day after day, week after week, the media gave up all pretense of objectivity and demanded a total ban on all handguns. The Dunblane Inquiry, a few months later, sealed the fate of the few sidearms still owned by private citizens.

During the years in which the British government incrementally took away most gun rights, the notion that a citizen had the right to armed self-defense came to be seen as vigilantism.
Authorities refused to grant gun licenses to people who were threatened, claiming that self-defense was no longer considered a reason to own a gun.
Citizens who shot burglars or robbers or rapists were charged while the real criminals were released.

Indeed, after the Martin shooting, a police spokesman was quoted as saying, "We cannot have people take the law into their own hands."

All of Martin's neighbors had been robbed numerous times, and several elderly people were severely injured in beatings by young thugs who had no fear of the consequences. Martin himself, a collector of antiques, had seen most of his collection trashed or stolen by burglars.

When the Dunblane Inquiry ended, citizens who owned handguns were given three months to turn them over to local authorities.

Being good British subjects, most people obeyed the law. The few who didn't were visited by police and threatened with ten-year prison sentences if they didn't comply.

Police later bragged that they'd taken nearly 200,000 handguns from private citizens.

How did the authorities know who had handguns?The guns had been registered and licensed.
Kind of like cars. Sound familiar?

WAKE UP AMERICA ; THIS IS WHY OUR FOUNDING FATHERS PUT THE SECOND AMENDMENT IN OUR CONSTITUTION.
 
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Kc.38

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Mailed Nov 30
Received Dec 22
Issued Dec 20
Yellow Cat Wi training Course
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Sutty

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I will throw my hat in the ring on this topic also.

Put the permit+check+proof of safety course in the mail late 11-1-11. I am being generous in thinking that the USPS got it there within two days (its just over an hour and a half drive from Milwaukee) :) .

I sent a money order and checked with my bank and found that it cleared 11/21/11.

Its 12-14 and i have not received either the permit or rejection letter (not that I should).

In reading the timeline on this forum it seems that the gap from check cash to permit received is getting greater and greater.

I will update when I receive the permit so that people that submitted after me can get a feel for where we are in wait time.

Mailed on the 11/01
check cashed on 11/15
permit issued on 12/19
arrived 12/22/11

Permit #29***

nothing like waiting till d- day to issue..
 

TGP

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Regarding the possibility of CCW repeal

Regarding the possibility of CCW repeal

I think repeal is very unlikely. Certainly not as long as the Repubs are still in control. CCW passed the legislature previous years with both Repub and some Dem support. That was not the problem. Dem governor veto was the problem. Even if Gov Walker is recalled, which I think is unlikely. It's only happened for a Governor once or twice ever anywhere in the entire US in all US history. But, even if happened, thre is no guarantee a Dem would replace him. And, even if a Dem replaced him it is unlikely the State legislature, with both Repub & some Dem support for CCW would pass a repeal bill. I know of no other state that passed CCW (of all 49 CCW states) that ever repealed it. In fact, the trend is to the contrary. Arizona just passed constitutional carry in July 2010. Now 3 states have constitutional carry: Vermont, Alaska & Arizona. Further, WI just passed and the Governor signed the Castle Doctrine Law in WI a couple of weeks ago. This Is another tremendous achievement for 2nd Amendment and NRAs efforts.
 

davegran

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Regarding the possibility of CCW repeal

I think repeal is very unlikely. Certainly not as long as the Repubs are still in control. CCW passed the legislature previous years with both Repub and some Dem support. That was not the problem. Dem governor veto was the problem. Even if Gov Walker is recalled, which I think is unlikely. It's only happened for a Governor once or twice ever anywhere in the entire US in all US history. But, even if happened, thre is no guarantee a Dem would replace him. And, even if a Dem replaced him it is unlikely the State legislature, with both Repub & some Dem support for CCW would pass a repeal bill. I know of no other state that passed CCW (of all 49 CCW states) that ever repealed it. In fact, the trend is to the contrary. Arizona just passed constitutional carry in July 2010. Now 3 states have constitutional carry: Vermont, Alaska & Arizona. Further, WI just passed and the Governor signed the Castle Doctrine Law in WI a couple of weeks ago. This Is another tremendous achievement for 2nd Amendment and NRAs efforts.
Welcome to the forum, TGP! Just a suggestion; there is no need to post the same message in multiple threads....

Thanks
 

TGP

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Welcome to the forum, TGP! Just a suggestion; there is no need to post the same message in multiple threads....

Thanks

Thanks for the input but there are different people, many now my friends, in the each thread but not the same people. How would you suggest I get the info to all of them without putting in both places?

Nt everyone checks more than one thread. In fact, I see only a few of the same people in each thread.
 
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