bmg50cal
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Yeah thanks, we've been going over that already. Welcome to the disscussion. Whatever a Bellvue Patch is... 
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Suicide at West Coast Armory in Bellevue?
- Thread starter Dave_pro2a
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jt59
Regular Member
Well, the Patch does seem to shed a lot of light on the issue....in depth reporting too!
Dave_pro2a
Regular Member
This thread proves once again the opencarry form is better than most gun forums. The topic was not deleted by admin like it was on some other forum -- seemingly to protect WCA from bad press. It was left up to run its course until real information came to light. And members got proactive with FoI requests.
Opencarry forum gets a thumbs up!
Opencarry forum gets a thumbs up!
tannerwaterbury
Regular Member
Now to get over who has what source, bottom line question is: IS IT ALL TRUE? I didn't hear anything else from GoGo in terms of this, and the Foia's are being slow as hell. Someone have ANYTHING with CREDIBLE proof?
Dave_pro2a
Regular Member
As one of my children might say: "You can feed a horse to water, but you can't dip him in ink."
http://bellevue.patch.com/articles/man-commits-suicide-at-bellevue-gun-safety-class
an actual source said:
proof?
* I think it is kinda funny that some of you are waiting for some FOIA thing to come through, when we already have several confirmations from the PD that it occured....lol. What do you consider proof? You saying that the Bellevue PD and the Bellevue Medical Examiner are not enough proof that it really happened? That is just too funny to me. But the FOIA inquirie will put it over the top for you huh?.....lol OR.....confirmation from some Liberal mainstream media source? Wow!
* I think it is kinda funny that some of you are waiting for some FOIA thing to come through, when we already have several confirmations from the PD that it occured....lol. What do you consider proof? You saying that the Bellevue PD and the Bellevue Medical Examiner are not enough proof that it really happened? That is just too funny to me. But the FOIA inquirie will put it over the top for you huh?.....lol OR.....confirmation from some Liberal mainstream media source? Wow!
Dave_pro2a
Regular Member
The article states:
That begs the question, did the person commit suicide with a gun owned by WCA which was being used as part of the class?
That begs the question, did the person commit suicide with a gun owned by WCA which was being used as part of the class?
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Trigger Dr
Regular Member
We have a new member that made a post that sounded phony. several of us doubted the accuracy. Now there have been some reports giving credence to his post.
Maybe he will quit his crying over not being believed.
Give it a rest and move on. Enough is enough.
Maybe he will quit his crying over not being believed.
Give it a rest and move on. Enough is enough.
kparker
Regular Member
You're pissed because some people are cautious about an otherwise-unattributed story from an unknown (and brand-new) person on an internet forum? Chill out!
DamonK
Regular Member
I hate to say it because I usually like to give folks the benefit of the doubt, but so far all we really have is a couple brand new posters supporting each other making a very dramatic claim. Now as "proof" we have an article in a paper with questionable credibility referencing what "a man" called and told them. As far as I can tell, you or I could call and make up a story ourselves. This is why I'm looking forward to the FOIA paperwork. That way none of us are counting on less than credible sources, or self citing each other.
So at this point there are no liars, just a questionable story still needing validation. And it's ok if that takes some time. Not everything needs to be instantaneous. For now, to the new guys, I would recommend spending you time and energy dealing with what you have to with you family and yourself(don't try to play the tough guy, get help if you need it)
Keep in mind that we know that the president is currently paying people to do exactly what some of these members have accused you of. So if you know that you're telling the truth, be patient and wait for the FOIA documents to prove your story. It's not like you have anything to lose on here, it's just an internet forum after all.
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So at this point there are no liars, just a questionable story still needing validation. And it's ok if that takes some time. Not everything needs to be instantaneous. For now, to the new guys, I would recommend spending you time and energy dealing with what you have to with you family and yourself(don't try to play the tough guy, get help if you need it)
Keep in mind that we know that the president is currently paying people to do exactly what some of these members have accused you of. So if you know that you're telling the truth, be patient and wait for the FOIA documents to prove your story. It's not like you have anything to lose on here, it's just an internet forum after all.
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EMNofSeattle
Regular Member
Well the Patch Article cites Bellevue Police Officer Carla Iafrate, Who is listed as the department's public information officer with an official phone extension and email on the department's website (bottom of linked page) so I think it should be easy enough for me to confirm the patch's source, I'll call her later this morning during business hours. since about 15 forum members have met me in person *I* should be trustworthy and believable as a source!
DamonK
Regular Member
Nope, I'm pretty sure you're obama in disguise!
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EMNofSeattle
Regular Member
Are you asking to see my long form birth certificate?
ncwabbit
Regular Member
did any thought go to the reason this situation might be blacked out is because of 'who' allegedly committed suicide and their status in the community or political arena ?
any unaccounted for politicians or social big wigs ?
and kudos for spending > 130 posts on the subject that may or may not have occurred...
truly quite impressive...
wabbit
any unaccounted for politicians or social big wigs ?
and kudos for spending > 130 posts on the subject that may or may not have occurred...
truly quite impressive...
wabbit
Flopsweat
Regular Member
Kudos to you, Sir or Mam, for contributing 1/134th of this impressiveness.
amlevin
Regular Member
Me too. I tuned in late and noticed that this thread is growing faster than the weeds in my front lawn.
Happened Sunday, right? Well, here it is Thursday and I haven't seen a single report on TV or in the newspapers (Real ones that is).
You'd think that with all the uproar over guns and gun safety that some TV Station of major news paper would be all over this like "stink on a full baby diaper".
Damn, and I'm out of popcorn.
bmg50cal
Regular Member
Out of popcorn!? NO!!!
I'm cooking up some crow for myself in anticipation of wrongly being a skeptic.
http://www.crowbusters.com/recipes.htm
amzbrady
Regular Member
This is an awesome thread. More discussion on who should be believed and who is credible, and I still don't know if this really happened or not. That's what I love most about OCDO. You can ask a simple yes or no question and you will get links, quotes, laws, miles and miles of threads but never a direct answer. :banana:
Dave_pro2a
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Tabfry
New member
I don't post to forums often, but I've been lurking here for a couple years. I find most posts fun, interesting, and educational. This one has been quite a ride.
I'm not calling anyone a liar or troll. I'm also not jumping on board with an unsubstantiated claim of such a tragedy. I say 'unsubstantiated' only because we haven't yet received official reports to such an incident. The Patch, while informative of local happenings, is making a report based on claims of 'a man' that I suspect is one of our new posters.
It's interesting that both wm2957 and wa1478 have such similar handles. Perhaps these are generically generated by OCDO, but neither took the time nor efforts to think of a unique name? Also, take a look at the writing styles of both posters. If I were an English professor, I'd suspect they were the same person.
Wm2957 says over and over again how traumatic the event was for he and his children. I'm sure such an event would be traumatic, I don't doubt that. Maybe it's therapeutic to talk about it, but I'm not sure arguing your point here is the best way to get counseling.
My question is, Why? Why try to convince us, an anonymous group of people on the internet, that such an event took place? Wm2957, you're trying really hard to make us believe. That, in and of itself is odd. It seems like someone is getting the attention they are starving for.
If the event in question is genuine, I pray for the family left behind and those in attendance to witness such a tragic event.
I'm not calling anyone a liar or troll. I'm also not jumping on board with an unsubstantiated claim of such a tragedy. I say 'unsubstantiated' only because we haven't yet received official reports to such an incident. The Patch, while informative of local happenings, is making a report based on claims of 'a man' that I suspect is one of our new posters.
It's interesting that both wm2957 and wa1478 have such similar handles. Perhaps these are generically generated by OCDO, but neither took the time nor efforts to think of a unique name? Also, take a look at the writing styles of both posters. If I were an English professor, I'd suspect they were the same person.
Wm2957 says over and over again how traumatic the event was for he and his children. I'm sure such an event would be traumatic, I don't doubt that. Maybe it's therapeutic to talk about it, but I'm not sure arguing your point here is the best way to get counseling.
My question is, Why? Why try to convince us, an anonymous group of people on the internet, that such an event took place? Wm2957, you're trying really hard to make us believe. That, in and of itself is odd. It seems like someone is getting the attention they are starving for.
If the event in question is genuine, I pray for the family left behind and those in attendance to witness such a tragic event.