HankT
State Researcher
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Starting to look like a Cho Seung-Hui type of shooting...
Maybe.
Starting to look like a Cho Seung-Hui type of shooting...
Maybe.
Part of a larger problem, the government disrespecting everyones lives as not worth defending. Disarm law-abiding civilians, disarm the military, don't let them defend the borders and ports, don't let them defend themselves on their own bases, don't give them enough to try to stay alive when deployed. If the UCMJ does not allow a basic level of trust (barring proof of guilt) and personally owned firearms to be carried in lieu of gov issue weapons not being available, then why should anyone ever be allowed to?My condolences go out to those who were shot and their families.
Why aren't the news agencies asking why the F** weren't our troops carrying a gun at least a goddam sidearm!? Instead its always about the shooter, the shooters guns and the body count........nothing more.......
I knew about the Dept of Army Police, but it was the "local" civilian police that I simply think have no business on a federal military reservation--IMO.ANSWER: She is a corporal for the Fort Hood Police Department. The FHPD is a federal law enforcement agency (GS Series 0083) that provides patrol response on Fort Hood. She DOES IN FACT have authority on the military base because she is a federal law enforcement officer and a GS employee
NO, they can handle their own affairs, it is just MUCH cheaper to provide a full time federal law enforcement agency to provide security because the military benefits that would have to be paid would cost much more.
We (yes, I am a retired federal military police officer (Captain)) have a "status of forces" agreement with with the local police departments. I am a civilian police officer in TX and we can assist federal agencies....even on a military base...at the request of the local commander. It is legal. NOW, it would NOT BE LEGAL for the local police to request military assistance because of posse commitatus.
yes, it is the Army, but Fort Hood is a training base and contrary to popular belief, not all soldiers are armed 24 hours a day. And just so you know, if they would have been armed they would have had to carry their arms openly because of the Geneva Conventions.
David (retired military and federal police officer) and now deputy constable.
Well....was just watching CNN for a little while. They said "we have more informtaion on the guns used in the crime, one was a FN 5.7 that is also usedby mexican drug cartel members it isreffered to as a "cop killer" because it can penetrate police's body armorand a 357 magnum." Not exactly what they said but thatsbasically it. Does it F'n matter what type of gun he used??Honestly? O just them creating more fear of guns.... those dam cop killing special guns too!!:banghead: Can anyone suggest a new news agency that actually knows a goddam thing about guns??? Seriously I'm getting sick of this, I remember columbine. I was 9 or 10 when columbine happened and watched the news, I thought until I became a gun activist and did sum research that the kids at columbine must have had some real firepower. No..... just a couple of semi-auto 9mm's and 12 guages..... I'm sick of this sh*t just report on what you know about the story not the dam guns to spread fear!
look at this....... heres a CBS "investigative team report"...
http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/cop-killer-gun-thought-ft-hood-shooting/story?id=9019521
The gun thought to be used in the Fort Hood massacre packs so much firepower, it's known as 'the Cop Killer,' federal law enforcement officials said.
Nidal Hasan as a senior at William Fleming High School.(Courtesy William Fleming High School)
Major Nidal Malik Hasan allegedly packed a FN Herstal Five-seveN tactical pistol, which according to federal law enforcement officials, was legally purchased from the "Guns Galore" shop in Killeen, Texas in Aug. 2009. The store's manager, David Cheadle, said that particular firearm can hold 20 rounds in a standard clip and take a ten round clip extension. Cheadle said with one clip and one round in the chamber, one could fire 31 rounds before reloading.
Hasan may have used an expanded clip in the shooting.
On FN Herstal's webpage, the benefits of the Five-seveN pistol note that it can "defeat the enemy in all close combat situations in urban areas, jungle conditions, night missions and any self defense action."
And heres another one
http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/tracking-source-gun-ft-hood-shooting/story?id=9014618
Federal agents, military investigators and Texas Rangers are investigating whether the gun used in the Fort Hood massacre was purchased at the "Guns Galore" shop in Killeen, Texas, according to the store co-manager.
"They called last night and asked about a specific name and gun purchase, but the name was not Hasan," said the manager who gave only his first name, Dave. He said he did not want to reveal the name for fear it would compromise the investigation.
Three investigators, including one wearing a Texas Rangers badge, were seen entering the store just before noon Friday. The manager said they were interviewing all of the store employees.
These people are pathetic
Once again we see the tragic result of when only criminals and police can have guns.
...America has suddenly lost it's balls since 9/11 to declare a war on this type of terror.
Despicable
Sure you want America to declare a war on "this type of terror"? That war could very well mean exterminating anyone that has a gun.I dont give a @#$% what was used to carry out this jihad attack, a plane, a bomb, a gun, a baseball bat. 12 people are dead because of a terrorist attack, and America has suddenly lost it's balls since 9/11 to declare a war on this type of terror.
Despicable