March on Washington 07-04-2013

[BB62]

Actually he carried an AK pistol sometimes painted orange or a BP pistol...

That's right - now I remember.

What's a BP pistol?

 

[boutaswell]

Honestly I don't know what I think about this. Forcing the issue like this (with what will probably be only a hundred or two participants) means that it can be brushed off nationally as done by crack-pots. Now, if there were tens of thousands of armed citizens marching into DC... well, that'd be a bit of a different story.

This x 100!!! While July 4 is a prime date, DC will be overflowing with civilians on the mall for 4th of July activities and then along the river for fireworks. This is really a recipe for disaster. Pick a day when there are no other activities and the idiots are in session....and go unarmed. Wait for the govt to make the 1st violent confrontational move. Don't give them a reason to take from this little bit of rabble and branding everybody that owns a firearm and dissents as a domestic terrorist. That gives the dictator-in-chief all the impetus he needs to wreck havoc on the Constitution for real.

Just sayin'

 

[sudden valley gunner]

Because it's the "winners" that write the history books.

A rhetorical question but yes. So we must diligently always question the official version of things.

 

[zack991]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sraPLEQ70pw

Adam Kokesh on CBS DC WUSA9

Good interview.

 

[Lasjayhawk]

Loaded long guns........civil disobedience..........people being funneled across a bridge................police in armor waiting on the other side.........a shot rings out..............

One person, that is all it will take. One person to discharge a weapon, LEO or Citizen, it will not matter.

+1

This could make Kent State look like a 4 year-old's birthday party.
Risk vs. Reward. the risk is way too high for my tastes, but i do like the concept.

 

[Michigander]

He is challenging unjust and tyrannical laws. He is in good company historically. Ghandi, MLK jr, Rosa Parks, and arguably others like Bobby Sands or the Deacons for Defense and Justice.

If you ever listen to his podcasts or watch his youtube videos, it's abundantly obvious that he feels bad about his tour in Iraq, and this seems to be very clearly something he is willing to do because he wants to use the time he has left in life to do the right thing and make amends for the good of his fellow human beings.

I will not be there due to other plans, and if I could make it I would not carry due to valuing the government recognized freedom I have currently, but he has a damned good point. Voting, typical protests, handing out fliers, making youtube videos, they very much have their limits. He is almost single handedly getting legit and massive attention like we worked on so hard in 2010 for the second amendment march. The difference here is that the media is telling the truth, where as they slandered the hell out of us and lied at every turn.

I wish him and all other participants the best of luck and a smooth event with no arrests or injuries. They are volunteering to put their freedom and perhaps even safety on the line for our republic, and I for one am grateful for their willingness to do so.

 

[minarchist]

Marching with a gun slung on your back does not suggest peaceful intent, regardless of what might be said by the organizer. You actively threaten the .gov and it will open a giant industrial sized can of whoop-@$$ on you.

The government's tendency to commit gratuitous violence at the drop of a hat is the root cause of people wanting to change it.

 

[minarchist]

My understanding is that there is no "legal" side of the bridge with Arlington being off limits for carry and possession.

Source? Virginia has preemption. Localities do not get to tell us that open carry is not allowed.

 

[minarchist]

I seriously question, rather see no need, for such an action at this time - especially in light of the FACT that we are winning, advancing on virtually all fronts. Can see no need to risk disaster with theater like this.

You're correct. We are advancing. However, the Brady Bunch is not taking no for an answer, and they have a serious, raging hardon for our guns now. I do not intend to let the tyrants slaughter me, so I would only be up for something like this if we stayed in Virginia, but I do agree with the overall idea that we need to adamantly defend our rights.

 

[Tucker6900]

This x 100!!! While July 4 is a prime date, DC will be overflowing with civilians on the mall for 4th of July activities and then along the river for fireworks. This is really a recipe for disaster. Pick a day when there are no other activities and the idiots are in session....and go unarmed. Wait for the govt to make the 1st violent confrontational move. Don't give them a reason to take from this little bit of rabble and branding everybody that owns a firearm and dissents as a domestic terrorist. That gives the dictator-in-chief all the impetus he needs to wreck havoc on the Constitution for real.

Just sayin'

While all very convincing arguments, no argument can be said for what has already happened. I believe the reason they chose to carry arms is to make sure they were exercising as many rights as possible.

 

[Grapeshot]

That's not so, according to my recollection.

Long gun rule was before Kwik - he did not carry a long gun.

That's right - now I remember.

What's a BP pistol?

BP = black powder

 

[MainelyGlock]

Good luck to those who are participating! Make sure that your employer has no problems with you having a felony conviction, and that your wives have the proper amount of bail money set aside. A small price to pay for the end result though, I'm sure.

 

[joanie]

Ya know, I'd consider getting behind this if the rifles all had their magazines removed, actions locked back, and trigger locks on. The way it sounds now, it's much too easy for a plant to just reach forward, charge a round on someone else's rifle, and pull the trigger. Instant massacre and P.R. nightmare. Though, I'm sure if some simpleton in Tennessee has thought of this, so has Adam.

I agree, The rifles should be unloaded. If I marched in this, my rifle, if I had one, would be unloaded. I don't even like to have my hand gun loaded when I open carry. But then I don't OC for self defence, I do it to preserve our rights to do so. To help make it more comonplace.



A certain former, obnoxious member, while in a park dressed in camo, carrying an orange-tipped rifle that I believe was an inch or so longer than an SBR, actively sought out police contact, and posted about his exploits here on OCDO and elsewhere. IMHO, in his twisted way of thinking he could not understand why "we" wouldn't get on board with his approach to exercising his rights. After his detainment, he filed a Federal court case that did neither "us" nor him any favors, and got nowhere. IMHO, rather than being an ambassador for open carry, he damaged, in word and deed, the public image and public enlightenment which the owners of this site value. He was banished, and the rules were changed.

Ok, I was told about this person. Guess I would say to blame the rifle, or ban discussion of them, is punishment missplaced. Takes all kinds I guess. I hope this guy don't find OhioOpenCarry, or AmericaChat. AmericaChat has had it share of troublesome members. But I give people credit to be smart enough to know that the rantings of some of the members, don't reflect the opinions, or outlook of the site owners, moderators/staff, or admin. On those two sites, I am admin, and moderator, however Zetaboards owns them. So for the most part, my rules are just a copy of theirs.

 

[sharkey]

Source? Virginia has preemption. Localities do not get to tell us that open carry is not allowed.

http://www.arlingtoncemetery.mil/docs/Carrying_or_Possession_of_Fireams.pdf

It's Federal land, not a locality.

ETA: add updated #'s

Going 3286
Maybe 2855
Invited 63365

ETA2: I went back through the thread. Grapeshot answered it; I knew I saw it posted on a forum here. LOL

The Department of the Army administers Arlington National Cemetery.
http://www.arlingtoncemetery.mil/docs/Carrying_or_Possession_of_Fireams.pdf


But there is not a law against carrying at Lobby Day or in Virginia generally.


FIFY Marco.



Ask the Magic 8 Ball your question.
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[Thundar]

Fair point.

Then what will the march be about? End Tyranny Now! (tm) ? What specific message is being communicated...

The march is about exercising our fundamental rights.

The motto of this website is "A right unexercised is a right lost."

 

[Tucker6900]

......<snip>to blame the rifle, or ban discussion of them, is punishment missplaced.

Ahh, you must be talking about the government, because a 2nd Amendment rights forum surely knows that the rifle is not to blame.

 

[Tucker6900]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sraPLEQ70pw

Adam Kokesh on CBS DC WUSA9

Good interview.

As I stated before, MSM is viewing this a gun rights rally. Adam did a good job explaining that this event is more than that.

 

[Freedom First]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sraPLEQ70pw

Adam Kokesh on CBS DC WUSA9

Good interview.

Yes it was. Like the anchor said, "It's gonna be an interesting summer."

 

[GhostOfJefferson]

The march is about exercising our fundamental rights.

The motto of this website is "A right unexercised is a right lost."

This works in states. This will not be seen the same in D.C. Everybody knows this at some level.

 

[joanie]

Heres some other videos by Adam.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fg7hUknPr2g

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eWxa-bFgyko

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=47zIkpDipzQ

If you agree with his efforts or not in this march, we should wish him well. It takes courage to do what he has planned.