I can understand the logic behind CC, but when would open carry be appropriate? Help!

[MyWifeSaidYes]

Ahem. Gil223, here is your post #35 in this thread:

I'm not going anywhere, but not because "my wife said yes". I did NOT "recommend against OC'ing in a bank"! Perhaps you should have your wife read these posts to you, since you seem incapable of understanding the mystical symbols that appear on your monitor. I recommend very little, except to the ignorant. To them I recommend 50' of logging chain and a D9 Cat, to help them pull their head out.
However, you did get one thing right (even a blind pig finds an acorn now and then): I did say that I have never seen "anybody except LEO's OC'ing in any financial institution (except security personnel years ago), and I have lived in 11 states and 4 foreign countries.", and that is factual. It's called anecdotal evidence and it is based upon my observations over the course of more than a half-century of transactions with financial institutions (banks, to you). If you don't accept anecdotal evidence, that's fine with me, because I believe "ya can't fix stupid", and I certainly don't wish to try.
I also never said that I "think a 'no hats' sign means 'no guns'. You seem to be taking every opportunity to misinterpret what I actually DO say. Perhaps you aren't a native-born American, and are still taking ESL classes. If that is not the case, please refer to my recommendation to the ignorant, above. Let me try to make this perfectly clear - I choose not to OC in the bank, you moron. You do understand that is one of our other rights, don't you... "freedom of choice". Now, just wait a few minutes and I'm sure the night nurse will be coming around with your bedtime dosage of Abilify. Para bellum...

And here is your post #14 in this thread:

The question was "...when would open carry be appropriate?" The answer is: wherever it's legal, and whenever you wish. There are some federal restrictions, as well as state and local restrictions on the where. Not all states permit OC, and a few don't permit CC either. But, if you are in a state that allows OC/CC - like Utah - with few home-grown restrictions on where, you're in luck. Common sense may dictate foregoing that right in certain instances (I wouldn't recommend OC'ing into your local bank or psychiatric hospital, and never try to cross the security checkpoint at the airport, federal courthouse, etc. while OC'ing). Other than that, OC in an OC state anytime you want! "Appropriate" is a very subjective concept, as you will probably see in the replies to this post which will accuse me of heresy and being FoS. Pax...

And here is your post # 20 in this thread:

Here locally, the banks that I'm familiar with have either posted "No Weapons" signs, or signs on the entrances requiring one to "remove caps, hats, hoodies and sunglasses before entry". I just figure if they don't want you wearing head covering and/or sunglasses, they'd really freak if you were wearing a gun! Besides, for me, that's just one of those common sense things. Will Rogers had it right: common sense "...ain't all that common". Pax...

And, in reference to your posts #35 and #38:

...However, I am not one of your rabid, foaming-at-the-mouth, "if you don't agree with me you're wrong", OC'ers...

 

[Gil223]

Ahem. Gil223, here is your post #35 in this thread:



And here is your post #14 in this thread:


And here is your post # 20 in this thread:



And, in reference to your posts #35 and #38:

And your point is what?? I did not ever say I would recommend against OC'ing in bank, I simply said I wouldn't recommend that anybody do it. The difference is slight, but significant. If somebody was to ask me, "What do you think about OC'ing in a bank?", my answer would be that "Personally, I choose not to do it, and I wouldn't recommend it to anybody, but the choice is yours. It is not unlawful unless the bank is posted, and even then the sign doesn't have the force of law behind it. There is no law against it, but there is the possibility of being charged with trespass if a bank employee asks you to leave and you refuse. Those are the possibilities on the other side of the entrance." You don't seem to be able to make the distinction between the fact that I choose not to OC in a financial institution, and translate to that as I am against anybody OC'ing in a bank or other financial institution. Never did I say, "Don't anybody ever OC in a bank!" People - even you - have the right to choose what actions you will engage in. You choose to continue to "beat a dead horse". I choose to stop playing your childish game, and stop responding to you on this subject. Have a nice.

 

[PistolPackingMomma]

If your behavior defines 'grown up', then I'm happy to not meet your definition.

Mocking someone's username and using the word 'moron' is sooo grown up, after all.

 

[MyWifeSaidYes]

...And we all know what people with low IQ's and lacking debate skills are.

Yeah. Gil223!!! :banana:

 

[MyWifeSaidYes]

And your point is what?? I did not ever say I would recommend against OC'ing in bank, I simply said I wouldn't recommend that anybody do it...

:question: I think someone does not understand negatives. :exclaim:

It's so sad that Nil223 has decided to stop playing my childish game.

Now we'll never know for sure if or when he stopped using illegal drugs.

I really do feel sorry for all the hard times the guy has been through.

The PM's I've received really spell out a tragic tale.

 

[MyWifeSaidYes]

Gill223-

Do you have your concealed carry permit, or whatever it's called in Utha?

 

[Automatica]

On Topic: I used to UOC in California before AB 144 when carrying large quantities of cash. Maybe happened 2-3 times, and I always called ahead to my bank to let them know I was coming in packing so the security guard didn't blow a fuse. Other than that I felt no need to OC in my city. These days, I wish I could UOC for reasons beyond cash protection.

As far as LOC, I LOC and carry a Spot Tracker about every other weekend when I backpack/go on remote fishing & coyote hunting trips in unincorporated areas where AB 144 doesn't apply in this state. Plus anyone who has a problem with it can kiss my ass as I'm remote enough to not care if I run into a "Subaru driving, REI hippy" who thinks I shouldn't be carrying. I'd almost be happy to respect their pacifistic socialist wishes in a bear or mountain lion run in... but then I'd remember the value of a human life as they scream their heads off in fear of a carnivorous animal.

 

[MAC702]

On Topic: I used to UOC in California before AB 144 when carrying large quantities of cash. ...

Was it somehow obvious at the time that you were carrying large amounts of cash?

 

[MyWifeSaidYes]

...Plus anyone who has a problem with it can kiss my ass as I'm remote enough to not care if I run into a "Subaru driving, REI hippy" who thinks I shouldn't be carrying. I'd almost be happy to respect their pacifistic socialist wishes in a bear or mountain lion run in... but then I'd remember the value of a human life as they scream their heads off in fear of a carnivorous animal.

It's nice that you consider them human, but I would respect their wishes. You wouldn't want them to scream their heads off when they see a man with a gun! :lol: :banghead:

 

[MyWifeSaidYes]

Was it somehow obvious at the time that you were carrying large amounts of cash?

Maybe Kaliforia has a law against concealing that.

 

[Automatica]

Was it somehow obvious at the time that you were carrying large amounts of cash?

Unfortunately my work didn't invest in the stealth or concealed carry deposit bag at the time. :lol: Obvious, only as obvious as me taking the deposit bag from the car to the entrance of the bank. Didn't want to risk having someone take it during the (at most) 100 yard walk.

 

[Dreamer]

Not "people", bank employees. Customers probably couldn't care less, but I really don't want to face the Roy PD SWAT Team, since the last guy that did left home in a body bag. When I go to the bank I'm not unarmed, just not OC'ing.

Previously, it was illegal to CC in a bank in NC, but OC in a bank (that was not posted) was 100% legal. For YEARS, the ONLY way to carry legally in a bank in NC was OC...

They changed the law this year, and now you can CC AND OC in a bank, if it's not posted in NC.

I have OCed in banks in NC dozens of times. I wouldn't use a bank that was posted, and took ALL my accounts out of BB&T and moved them to the NC State Employees Credit Union for JUST that reason--they do not post. And they NEVER had an issue with me OCing a full-sized 1911, even at the branch that was just a few blocks from the college campus where I was a graduate student.

 

[Grapeshot]

I have had the unfortunate privilege of deleting 10 posts on a short 3 page thread for personal insults - conduct not become a user.

We bear a responsibility to all readers of this forum - stick to facts and take personal animosity and sarcasm somewhere else. They are not welcome here.

 

[KYGlockster]

Here locally, the banks that I'm familiar with have either posted "No Weapons" signs, or signs on the entrances requiring one to "remove caps, hats, hoodies and sunglasses before entry". I just figure if they don't want you wearing head covering and/or sunglasses, they'd really freak if you were wearing a gun! Besides, for me, that's just one of those common sense things. Will Rogers had it right: common sense "...ain't all that common". Pax...

I suppose I am lacking common sense then. I thought common sense would dictate that we should always be armed, and if we have no choice but to OC, then we OC into the bank. Here in Ky people can OC at 18, but can't obtain a KY CDWL until they are 21. Would these people be lacking common sense if they carried openly into a bank? After all, it is their only option if they want to protect themselves and others. If a bank has a sign that asks people to remove hoodies before entering, how does that relate to firearms? Carrying a firearm does not hide your appearance like a hoodie does, and I believe that is why they ask you to remove a hood. Please be more friendly with your comments and don't imply people are lacking common sense just because they decide to protect themselves diiferently than you. We are supposed to be Pro-freedom, not Pro-ourway. If I don't agree with something someone does it doesn't mean they are ignorant or of low moral character, it just means they have a difference of opinion. As an American, I should respect that opinion, because they are free to do as they wish, and I am in no situation to judge them.

 

[KYKevin]

I OC in the bank (Chase) here where I live. I don't even think they notice. No one has ever said anything to me. Heck I don't even think anything about it. And if it ever becomes an issue, well there is always drive through.