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Gun Rally...

gogodawgs

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Here's a good one.

Yet a misquote, the actual quote is:

A free people ought not only to be armed but disciplined; to which end a uniform and well digested plan is requisite: And their safety and interest require that they should promote such manufactories, as tend to render them independent on others, for essential, particularly for military supplies.
---George Washington's First Annual Message to Congress (January 8, 1790)

http://millercenter.org/president/speeches/detail/3448
 

SGTapone

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I would agree with that Bill, what I was complaining about was a guest speaker who needed to be vetted before allowed a microphone. Im glad I went and the rally itself went well, but Didier was out of hand and I felt someone needed to say it

I agree. I was more than impressed by the turn out, but maybe a little bit of toning down on the "god" and "christian values" (stuff that has NOTHING to do with 2A) would have been appreciated. I am an athiest, and I felt a tad "attacked" by some of the speakers language. had it been a religious rally it would have been different, but I thought the goal was to normalize gun ownership and open carry, while standing up for our 2A right.
 

sudden valley gunner

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Yet a misquote, the actual quote is:

A free people ought not only to be armed but disciplined; to which end a uniform and well digested plan is requisite: And their safety and interest require that they should promote such manufactories, as tend to render them independent on others, for essential, particularly for military supplies.
---George Washington's First Annual Message to Congress (January 8, 1790)

http://millercenter.org/president/speeches/detail/3448

The more I study George Washington the more I dislike him and the more I realize making him the first president, and his appointees to the court with their statist precedents, have lead our country to much of the problems they have today.

He had some good quotes especially in his farewell address, maybe by then he realized much of the futility of his nationalist statists positions.

It wouldn't surprise me though he preferred an army over the other forms of militia, although the militias were much more successful than his endeavors, and luckily he was restrained a bit by the continental congress.
 

Freedom First

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The more I study George Washington the more I dislike him and the more I realize making him the first president, and his appointees to the court with their statist precedents, have lead our country to much of the problems they have today.

He had some good quotes especially in his farewell address, maybe by then he realized much of the futility of his nationalist statists positions.

It wouldn't surprise me though he preferred an army over the other forms of militia, although the militias were much more successful than his endeavors, and luckily he was restrained a bit by the continental congress.

Yeah for central government! Damn federalists.
 

adam3176

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Of course I want to hear what pleases me, the second amendment and our constitutional rights please me greatly...

I think you missed the entire gist of the post. I am Christian. I am religious, I think that we don't need to use god as a political prop at a rally for a secular issue. There are gun owners who are liberal, union, gay, democrat, etc. this needed to be focused less on "we need to return to god" and "hide your radio parts" I did not say the rally was a failure or that Deros and Squeak and Bill didn't work hard on it. I am saying that someone should've whispered to Didier and told him to get back on topic or that in the future guest speakers need to be chosen for who will defend gun rights and not preach about SHTF prepping. I did not bad mouth Jim or squeak or anyone, I made a specific complaint about a specific speaker who went way over the boundaries of what should've been pushed

I am equally angry about Freedom1man and his buddy showing up to troll the rally with their "socialist security" signs that also had nothing to do with gun rights.

I am going to ask you again to come clean on this Subject. Since it seems in the other thread you are calling me a "Plant". You have been lying about the sign now for over a week.. You have not yet told the truth about the sign, You keep bringing it up so for once Please be honest with everyone on the sign. For the last time Please post what the other side of the sign said! You will see it had a lot to do with gun rights of the citizens. I am tired of the lies about me coming from you. Thank you
 
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adam3176

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The more I study George Washington the more I dislike him and the more I realize making him the first president, and his appointees to the court with their statist precedents, have lead our country to much of the problems they have today.

He had some good quotes especially in his farewell address, maybe by then he realized much of the futility of his nationalist statists positions.

It wouldn't surprise me though he preferred an army over the other forms of militia, although the militias were much more successful than his endeavors, and luckily he was restrained a bit by the continental congress.

The more research i do on presidents the more i connect them to Royal blood lines.. is it possible they were all put in place from the very start?
 
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