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BREAKING NEWS: At Least 10 Dead, 20 Hurt in Aurora Colorado Shooting Spree

M-Taliesin

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Thank you!

Howdy Kiddo!
If you come up to Aurora, we can provide a place for you to crash. Assuming you ain't allergic to cats and don't mind sleeping in what is to become my office.
We have a futon in there that can make for a reasonable bed. You'd surely be welcome here.

As for your thanking folks, I echo your thanks to those folks!

Blessings,
M-Taliesin
 

LoneEchoWolf

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Howdy Kiddo!
If you come up to Aurora, we can provide a place for you to crash. Assuming you ain't allergic to cats and don't mind sleeping in what is to become my office.
We have a futon in there that can make for a reasonable bed. You'd surely be welcome here.

As for your thanking folks, I echo your thanks to those folks!

Blessings,
M-Taliesin

Sweet i will keep in touch and let you know if i need a place to crash. i will be heading that way to visit my injured friend and see if i can help in any way i can with the familys or the city as soon as im sure i have the days off.
 

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So what do we know so far about this shooter?

--he was a med student, studying neuroscience
--he was an honors grad in undergraduate school
--he participated in several neuroscience research projects involving mind altering techniques
--he had several thousand dollars worth of firearms and ammo
--his apartment was rigged with sophisticated booby traps, explosives and incendiary devices
--he has almost no "record" in the legal system
--he was described by classmaates as "quiet, shy and introverted"
--he was unemployed
--he surrendered calmly and without any resistance to the police after the shooting and told them his home was booby trapped

So how does an unemployed grad student get thousands of dollars worth of guns, ammo, tactical gear and bombs?

Where does a unemployed grad student get the training to build bobby traps and bombs?

Can we say "Manchurian Candidate" boys and girls?

Can we say "False Flag?" boys and girls?

Can we say "inside job" boys and girls?

The UN Small Arms Treaty is coming up for signing. The "Gun Control" industry has seen nothing but defeat in the Courts lately. Americans are buying firearms at RECORD numbers. Anti-gun politicians are being sent to the unemployment lines every election.

This event is just a little too conveniently timed to pass the "sniff test" in my book...
 

LoneEchoWolf

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So what do we know so far about this shooter?

--he was a med student, studying neuroscience
--he was an honors grad in undergraduate school
--he participated in several neuroscience research projects involving mind altering techniques
--he had several thousand dollars worth of firearms and ammo
--his apartment was rigged with sophisticated booby traps, explosives and incendiary devices
--he has almost no "record" in the legal system
--he was described by classmaates as "quiet, shy and introverted"
--he was unemployed
--he surrendered calmly and without any resistance to the police after the shooting and told them his home was booby trapped

So how does an unemployed grad student get thousands of dollars worth of guns, ammo, tactical gear and bombs?

Where does a unemployed grad student get the training to build bobby traps and bombs?

Can we say "Manchurian Candidate" boys and girls?

Can we say "False Flag?" boys and girls?

Can we say "inside job" boys and girls?

The UN Small Arms Treaty is coming up for signing. The "Gun Control" industry has seen nothing but defeat in the Courts lately. Americans are buying firearms at RECORD numbers. Anti-gun politicians are being sent to the unemployment lines every election.

This event is just a little too conveniently timed to pass the "sniff test" in my book...

theres many things wrong with your statements but im not in the right frame to try to reply to everything, the one thing i will say that is for sure wrong about your comments are he was not unemployed, he was a student and he also had a payed job at the School he was attending, he gave a lecture not too long ago even. Please PLEASE PLEASE get your facts straight before passing on misinformation. Prayers to all that are affected by this tragic event.

And for the matter of false flags how do we know that you werent sent here to infiltrate us and cause confusion and anger, you do have 5,000+ posts so that means they planted you a while agoto tear us apart from the inside. if everyone was to look at everything the way you do there would be a whole lot of law abiding citizens in jail because you thought something didnt pass your sniff test. have some compassion at this time man. not just some heartless spy.
 
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Medic1210

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So what do we know so far about this shooter?

--he was a med student, studying neuroscience
--he was an honors grad in undergraduate school
--he participated in several neuroscience research projects involving mind altering techniques
--he had several thousand dollars worth of firearms and ammo
--his apartment was rigged with sophisticated booby traps, explosives and incendiary devices
--he has almost no "record" in the legal system
--he was described by classmaates as "quiet, shy and introverted"
--he was unemployed
--he surrendered calmly and without any resistance to the police after the shooting and told them his home was booby trapped

So how does an unemployed grad student get thousands of dollars worth of guns, ammo, tactical gear and bombs?

Where does a unemployed grad student get the training to build bobby traps and bombs?

Can we say "Manchurian Candidate" boys and girls?

Can we say "False Flag?" boys and girls?

Can we say "inside job" boys and girls?

The UN Small Arms Treaty is coming up for signing. The "Gun Control" industry has seen nothing but defeat in the Courts lately. Americans are buying firearms at RECORD numbers. Anti-gun politicians are being sent to the unemployment lines every election.

This event is just a little too conveniently timed to pass the "sniff test" in my book...

After reading this, I gotta say your name fits.
 

RockyMtnScotsman

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I wrote a (polite) letter to Cinemark expressing my anger. I encourage you to share your feelings with them as well. Here's their contact page: https://www.cinemark.com/contact-us.aspx

Cinemark is on record as (essentially) responding with "pound sand" -- http://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/2012/07/robert-farago/cinemark-theaters-no-legal-firearms-allowed/

Fine, they have that right.

Response: the family of each and every victim in Aurora file civil suit against Cinemark for wrongful death. By prohibiting patrons from legally carrying their arms, they prohibit them from acting in their own self defense. As such, Cinemark assumes responsibility for the care and safety of their patrons. They didn't do so well last night .... and they are liable in civil court - BIG TIME.
 

LoneEchoWolf

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Cinemark is on record as (essentially) responding with "pound sand" -- http://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/2012/07/robert-farago/cinemark-theaters-no-legal-firearms-allowed/

Fine, they have that right.

Response: the family of each and every victim in Aurora file civil suit against Cinemark for wrongful death. By prohibiting patrons from legally carrying their arms, they prohibit them from acting in their own self defense. As such, Cinemark assumes responsibility for the care and safety of their patrons. They didn't do so well last night .... and they are liable in civil court - BIG TIME.

Have they come out with any response to the tragedy in Aurora? i have yet to see one just intrested in there response.
 

Beretta92FSLady

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So what do we know so far about this shooter?

--he was a med student, studying neuroscience
--he was an honors grad in undergraduate school
--he participated in several neuroscience research projects involving mind altering techniques
--he had several thousand dollars worth of firearms and ammo
--his apartment was rigged with sophisticated booby traps, explosives and incendiary devices
--he has almost no "record" in the legal system
--he was described by classmaates as "quiet, shy and introverted"
--he was unemployed
--he surrendered calmly and without any resistance to the police after the shooting and told them his home was booby trapped

So how does an unemployed grad student get thousands of dollars worth of guns, ammo, tactical gear and bombs?

Where does a unemployed grad student get the training to build bobby traps and bombs?

Can we say "Manchurian Candidate" boys and girls?

Can we say "False Flag?" boys and girls?

Can we say "inside job" boys and girls?

The UN Small Arms Treaty is coming up for signing. The "Gun Control" industry has seen nothing but defeat in the Courts lately. Americans are buying firearms at RECORD numbers. Anti-gun politicians are being sent to the unemployment lines every election.

This event is just a little too conveniently timed to pass the "sniff test" in my book...

Good grief, and it begins to rise to the surface.

I have a friend who is (well, was, he graduated) in medical school. Do you realize how much money they are given to live, if they do the proper paperwork? He was getting about 33k a year to live on. There is plenty of sources of money out there for medical students--the biggest reason: They want the medical students to graduate, and they will offer any and all support possible to make that possible.
 
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HankT

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Cinemark is on record as (essentially) responding with "pound sand" -- http://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/2012/07/robert-farago/cinemark-theaters-no-legal-firearms-allowed/

Fine, they have that right.

Response: the family of each and every victim in Aurora file civil suit against Cinemark for wrongful death. By prohibiting patrons from legally carrying their arms, they prohibit them from acting in their own self defense. As such, Cinemark assumes responsibility for the care and safety of their patrons. They didn't do so well last night .... and they are liable in civil court - BIG TIME.

Cinemark also has the right to prohibit certain items on its property.

Cinemark doesn't prohibit anyone from legally carrying arms. Citizens can go wherever they want to and carry as many arms as they wish. Just not on Cinemark property while it maintains the current policy.

Property rights. Nice concept.
 

LoneEchoWolf

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Cinemark also has the right to prohibit certain items on its property.

Cinemark doesn't prohibit anyone from legally carrying arms. Citizens can go wherever they want to and carry as many arms as they wish. Just not on Cinemark property while it maintains the current policy.

Property rights. Nice concept.

you are right sir of course, property rights are awesome. wont disagree there, but when entering someones establishment, none the less paying for entrance to said building you assume some sort of protection or security to be in place, just as getting on a roller coaster you assume there are working breaks and maintenance has been done. if they fail to maintain the ride and something happens you have no control over that what so ever. you assume some sort of security on that land. mostly if they do not allow you to do so for yourself. just my personal opinion though.
 

Medic1210

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you are right sir of course, property rights are awesome. wont disagree there, but when entering someones establishment, none the less paying for entrance to said building you assume some sort of protection or security to be in place, just as getting on a roller coaster you assume there are working breaks and maintenance has been done. if they fail to maintain the ride and something happens you have no control over that what so ever. you assume some sort of security on that land. mostly if they do not allow you to do so for yourself. just my personal opinion though.

But you, as the customer, willingly decides to disarm and go into this establishment. Nobody is forcing you to enter. You knew what their policy was, and decided the benefits of watching the movie outweighed the risks of doing so unarmed.

Your roller coaster example is an apples to oranges. A failure due to lack of maintenance is not the same as a madman going on a shooting spree. Maintenance is the park's responsibility. The theater had no control over what happened there.
 
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mustangkiller

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So when are the media asshats going to start chattering on for days and weeks about violent movie genres and violent comic book/graphic novel genres?

Go ahead and check that box in the playbook off. Lou Dobbs had a couple shrinks on his show today and they discussed that very subject.
 

FallonJeeper

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Your roller coaster example is an apples to oranges. A failure due to lack of maintenance is not the same as a madman going on a shooting spree. Maintenance is the park's responsibility. The theater had no control over what happened there.

Actually, had the gunman purchased a ticket with a rifle, shot gun and swat gear on, somebody might have had a clue. But this guy came in through a fire exit. There was no security to stop this guy. They should have had control. If an establishment is going to deny me my right to defend myself, then they better damned well be prepared and able to provide security that will ensure my safety and well being. If they can't I'm moving on.

I see a huge law suit coming to the movie theater.
 
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Boba Fett

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From some of these posts it would seem that many of you are unaware of the theater's strictly enforced "no weapons" policy. No one was in the crowd to fight back because the theater had run off the legally armed sheepdogs.
 

Medic1210

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Actually, had the gunman purchased a ticket with a rifle, shot gun and swat gear on, somebody might have had a clue. But this guy came in through a fire exit. There was no security to stop this guy. They should have had control. If an establishment is going to deny me my right to defend myself, then they better damned well be prepared and able to provide security that will ensure my safety and well being. If they can't I'm moving on.

I see a huge law suit coming to the movie theater.

If the supreme court has ruled that a police officer is not obligated to protect you, you actually think the theater will be required to? Nope. And this guy parked his car full of gear around back, went to the front and purchased a ticket, the propped open the fire exit so he could retrieve his stuff and re-enter the building.
 

LoneEchoWolf

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But you, as the customer, willingly decides to disarm and go into this establishment. Nobody is forcing you to enter. You knew what their policy was, and decided the benefits of watching the movie outweighed the risks of doing so unarmed.

Your roller coaster example is an apples to oranges. A failure due to lack of maintenance is not the same as a madman going on a shooting spree. Maintenance is the park's responsibility. The theater had no control over what happened there.

The theater has control of the safety of there patrons just as a amusement park does is the point. they normally have a off duty police officer as security on weekends, not weekdays, being it was Thursday there was no security on the property, maybe the adjoining mall security but thats doubtful. yes as a customer i willingly decided to disarm and put my life in there hands, them taking my money is almost agreeing that they will provide some security for my life once i disarm and enter there building just as getting on any ride in a park you assume that they have security in place so that something will not happen that will kill you.
 
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