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Boston PD to monitor police cars by GPS tracking... officers don't like it

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Primus

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Oh ok so you were saying "how do you have an option" meaning "you have an option". Gotcha.

Umm, no. I asked "How do you have an option?" as in..... "How do you have an option?" It wasn't a typo.

It was a nice way to throw up the BS flag on the play. I'd bet just about anything that is NOT the case in the department. It may be the officers he knows dislike the call so they avoid them and let someone else take them, but as far as the Department having a policy that says "you don't have to go to calls you don't like".... BS.

I have the option of moving to a Department may get 2-3 Domestic calls per week. I happen to belong to one that has more then that a night (on average). I could move to slow dept. in a rural area, but I won't.
 

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Umm, no. I asked "How do you have an option?" as in..... "How do you have an option?" It wasn't a typo.

It was a nice way to throw up the BS flag on the play. I'd bet just about anything that is NOT the case in the department. It may be the officers he knows dislike the call so they avoid them and let someone else take them, but as far as the Department having a policy that says "you don't have to go to calls you don't like".... BS.

I have the option of moving to a Department may get 2-3 Domestic calls per week. I happen to belong to one that has more then that a night (on average). I could move to slow dept. in a rural area, but I won't.

Sarcasm is lost on you isn't it?
 

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I have said for years that body cams well come to LEOs for years as technology, storage and transmitting data gets cheaper and improves.

Officers actions well be recorded and transmitted live to any supervisors desk that wants to have a look.

Good, bad or indifferent all depends on the officer, supervisor and department.
 

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Correct, I am. I know... roll out the pitch forks and light the torches, it's a mobbing time.

Now I understand all his evasions, twists, dodges, and arguing in circles. Its not just sloppy thinking. Its professional tactics.

And, I now understand his statism.

Hahahahahhahahahahaaa!! We've seen his style of posting before. More than once.

Heh, heh, heh. Enjoy your stay, Primus. No, really. I am sooo looking forward to it.
 
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I suspect that the rank and file cop is not too worried about being tracked in real time by GPS. The cop union on the other hand may have a different view. Listen, what cop does not have a cell phone that is on and his location being logged via the provider.

Non-story unless the cops make it a story. Hypocrisy? Meh.
 

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I suspect that the rank and file cop is not too worried about being tracked in real time by GPS. The cop union on the other hand may have a different view. Listen, what cop does not have a cell phone that is on and his location being logged via the provider.

Non-story unless the cops make it a story. Hypocrisy? Meh.

All cops use their cellphones to make calls that they don't want to be made public ... and that's a lot !

Whenever you see a cop with a cell phone, ask him if you have have records relating to the calls he has made for 1 yr. They would be public records. And watch him/her start crying.
 
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Look at the Grisham case .. that cop had a camera recording the entire incident .. the jury saw it. Normal people without brain damage would understand from the vid that the guy did not commit a crime.

So, did the footage help or hurt him? I would say it hurt him 'cause he was found guilty. I think w/o the footage, he would have won.

Be careful what you wish for.
 
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Gentlemen - Rule #6 is not new.

OCDO does not allow casting general dispersions on a category of people by virtue of their employment and obviously no direct insult to an individual.

6) NO PERSONAL ATTACKS: While you may disagree strongly with another poster based upon their opinion, we will NOT tolerate any personal attacks or general bashing of groups of people based upon race, religion, national origin, sex, sexual orientation, gender-identity or choice of occupation (e.g., being a law enforcement officer, in the military, etc).

Please return to the subject of the thread and matters of direct, specific relationship.

Was this related to my last post, just prior to your posting this? I did not even mention the French.
 

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“No one likes it. Who wants to be followed all over the place?” said one officer...
It’s quite an intrusion on people’s lives

I'll bet these same cops are quite supportive of police drones and city-wide security cameras watching everyone. How come these union folks are not decrying those intrusions into citizens lives? Or, the "quite an intrusion" of violating curtilage, demanding identity documents without RAS, etc, etc, etc.?
 
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I'll bet these same cops are quite supportive of police drones and city-wide security cameras watching everyone. How come these union folks are not decrying those intrusions into citizens lives? Or, the "quite an intrusion" of violating curtilage, demanding identity documents without RAS, etc, etc, etc.?

It's not bashing to say that cops have one job. To make arrests. The rest is collateral. To do this they are allowed to lie, to provocate, to use force, to plant evidence, to arrest for something that's not a crime, to say they were ignorant of the law and let the judge sort it out. They are allowed to bully, pressure, bargain but not follow through. We HOPE they don't do this to normal LACs, and use these tactics when dealing with a public menace.

If they do it too much, they BECOME the public menace. Most of us know that we fear one thing and that's the cops (and heavy handedness and lethality without review) because you can't fight back. I don't fear the average BG. I don't fear random muggings, or random burglaries, because I can be sure I don't appear to be a soft target. But to a cops, a LAC who appears to be a 'hard target' is a CHALLENGE to take down. Why? Because they can. They can't get respect from criminals, but they can reduce the normal LAC to a pile of rubble by piling on, bodies, charges, lies, assaults, and their brothers will stand by and do nothing.

Somehow we need to turn the tide. We need to get the LEOs on our side. I do a little of this at every gun show I go to, make a friend, get a business card. It's the only path available, because we are cannon fodder, hampered by rules and laws and rulings which protect the criminals. We are treated LIKE criminals because that's all cops know. It's hard to blame them, but it doesn't make life any better for the LAC who just wants to be left in peace.

/Rant
 
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