Anti-Gun Andy Parker (Pal of Our Dear Governor) Threatens Senator Bill Stanley

[Repeater]

Jeff Schapiro weighs in

That narcissist Jeff has to opine over this.

Before the 'Note' can run, you have to sit through an advert. Well, that happens to be the Andy Parker ad. Maybe the ads will finally change.

 

[Repeater]

The Parkers are lashing out at "The Cowards"

Basically, anyone who disagrees with their Hoplophobia is a coward.

Parkers Rip "Gutless Coward" Virginia Legislators Like Scott Lingamfelter in "Pockets of the Gun Lobby"

And another thing I'm sure you've seen, over the past few weeks I've [called out] several politicians for being gutless cowards.

Unfortunately, the General Assembly has more than its share, but I think that Scott Lingamfelter is in a league of his own. In fact, I think you'll find his picture next to the definition of 'coward' in the dictionary. By preventing these [life-saving?] bills from even reaching the main body for a vote as he does time and again just shows how deeply he is in the pockets of the gun lobby. He puts NRA money ahead of the safety of families and law enforcement in the Commonwealth, and for us that's unconscionable and it just doesn't cut it. And that's why we want to do whatever we can do to get Sara [Townsend] elected.

 

[Grapeshot]

Apologizing for having "spoke[n] regrettably" is pretty much saying you are sorry you got caught.

Parker has said nothing to indicate that he has withdrawn the threat of battery (he's already committed assault by making the threat, and cannot take that back - ever!).

--snipped--

Yeppers, you can't unring the bell - that horse is out of the barn.

 

[1245A Defender]

This news has made this a WOWWIE!!! Thread...

Apologizing for having "spoke[n] regrettably" is pretty much saying you are sorry you got caught.

Parker has said nothing to indicate that he has withdrawn the threat of battery (he's already committed assault by making the threat, and cannot take that back - ever!).

Parker has put in writing that his anger is associated with his grieving over the death of his daughter, and suggests that his comments and behavior are related to that grieving. Or, as we say, he appears to present a danger to himself or others by reason of inability to control his anger. Since he is calling for more action to respond to those with mental illnesses before they cause injury/death I'd suggest that Mr. Parker is perhaps a textbook case of the person who ought to be involuntarily detained to determine if they do in fact present a danger to self or others by reason of mental disability or infirmity. (Something about getting what you wished for seems to floating around there.)

I would love to be a fly on the wall as some psychiatrist asked two of his compatriots for a consult about Mr. Parker (doubt anybody is going to make a call either way on their own) and they start talking about which one of hem is going to sign off saying that in their professional opinion - knowing their livelihood and all their possessions are on the line if they goof - he presents no credible risk.

Perhaps some good citizen ought to take a road trip and visit the magistrate out where Andy lives.

stay safe.

Yeppers, you can't unring the bell - that horse is out of the barn.

I really AGREE with Skid! I cant add more, but
from the comments...

Clearly this man is unstable. He was unstable before the tragedy, and his grief is compunding his behavioral health issues, resulting in bizarre behavior. McAuliffe is fanning the flames. Andy Parker is the kind of person who should not be allowed to carry a firearm. Bill Stanley is absolutely right in being worried about his safety around this man. Someone needs to stop him before another tragedy occurs.

 

[Grapeshot]

Have heard through my extended grapevine that there is a civil action against Parker for stalking; grounds for a protective order; and grounds for a complaint in support of a temporary detention order.

Note: not confirmed yet, but from an extremely reliable source.

 

[BB62]

Have heard through my extended grapevine that there is a civil action against Parker for stalking; grounds for a protective order; and grounds for a complaint in support of a temporary detention order.

Note: not confirmed yet, but from an extremely reliable source.

If the level-headed Mr. Parker were one of those people who the media likes to catch saying 'From my cold dead hands!!", his threats would be national news. If he has a concealed carry permit, the news would also make the point that unhinged people possess such things.

BUT, since he's just your regular, run-of-the-mill, anti-gun lunatic - all you'll hear is crickets.

 

[skidmark]

Have heard through my extended grapevine that there is a civil action against Parker for stalking; grounds for a protective order; and grounds for a complaint in support of a temporary detention order.

Note: not confirmed yet, but from an extremely reliable source.

There are usually grounds for anything (except perhaps a good cup of coffee).

The question is whether or not somebody takes action on any of those grounds.

Given the enhanced penalty aspect of several of the alleged criminal aspects due to the status of the target one would hope that the good Senator will not let political sentiment stand in his way of acting.

stay safe.

 

[Grapeshot]

Umh... the grapeshot grapevine! That should produce some very good wine.

Estate bottled - sometimes collected for its label.

 

[marshaul]

Umh... the grapeshot grapevine! That should produce some very good wine.

Something about Roman emperors supposedly going insane from drinking out of lead-painted wine cups.

 

[marshaul]

Given the enhanced penalty aspect of several of the alleged criminal aspects due to the status of the target one would hope that the good Senator will not let political sentiment stand in his way of acting.

Given all his comments about how "unconscionable" it is to not "protect law enforcement" with a whole bunch of new laws, I can't say I'll be upset if this particular busybody learns what it's like to be on the receiving end of Government.

Andy, government is not your friend. Whatever problem you think you have, that you think you want government to come fix: it can't. Its only tool is force; it is only capable of hurting people. We would have been fine unleashing government on Flanagan, but now it's time to stop lashing out. More innocents will be hurt.

 

[paramedic70002]

What's funny is, one of the anti groups I monitor has said that, "Stanley has applied for a CHP so he can shoot Parker in public."

Does that make your head spin, or what?

 

[skidmark]

Other people are talking: http://www.pagunblog.com/

And from the comments there - when a threat becomes a "real threat" https://popehat.com/tag/true-threats/

stay safe.

 

[davidmcbeth]

(Snip) Late Tuesday, Parker sent this message to Sen. William M. Stanley Jr. (R-Franklin), via Facebook: “I’m going to be your worst nightmare you little bastard.”
<snip>

That's not a threat.

 

[Grapeshot]

That's not a threat.

That's a matter of opinion and case law - no cite provided.

This did escalate to refer to beating him - see post #14.

 

[Repeater]

Special Prosecutor appointed in probe of Andy Parker's threats against Bill Stanley

Andy Parker is not reacting well to this development:

Prosecutor appointed in probe of slain reporter's father's alleged online threats against state senator

Five months after a state senator for Southwest Virginia told police he had been threatened by the father of the Roanoke TV reporter fatally shot during a live broadcast, a special prosecutor has been appointed to oversee an ongoing Virginia State Police investigation and decide whether charges are warranted.

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Reached last week, Parker was astounded to learn from a reporter that an investigation was still proceeding.

“The notion that they’re still pushing this as an ongoing investigation is absurd,” he said. “I just don’t get it.”

Parker said he hasn’t been interviewed by state police, nor has he been advised of an investigation.

“If there was anything to this, you would have thought I would have heard something by now — or somebody from state police would knock on my door,” Parker said. “But nobody has. And I have to think that Stanley’s behind it.

“He’s doing everything he can to ruin me,” Parker added. “He’s searching everywhere he can for a friendly (commonwealth’s attorney) that will take the case and appoint someone to look into it. That’s the only thing I can think of, because there is absolutely no merit to it.”

Ruination? See how he does not except responsibility for his words and actions. Also:

Parker last week reiterated that he intended no harm to Stanley. “The notion that I’d hurt the guy, or that there is a threat there, is nuts. I saw him in the hallways in the General Assembly building — I didn’t say anything to him — I just walked right by him.”

So, who's nuts?

Stanley gets the final word:

Stanley said he just wants Parker to leave him and his family alone and be allowed to grieve without making threats to others. He said Parker has directed angry outbursts not just to him, but to other elected officials “throughout this area.”

“I want him to have time to grieve, and not make me the object of the anger which is part of that grief,” Stanley said. “I have done nothing to him, ever. For him to have the anger that he has for me — to make a physical threat against me and my family — there’s no reason for that. The grief can explain, but not necessarily excuse, it.”

 

[taurusfan]

Parker is guilty of assault--I don't think there is any question of that--and I don't think he's pals of our Dear Governor any longer because of SB 610.

 

[Repeater]

Parker is guilty of assault--I don't think there is any question of that.

Seems the Special Prosecutor disagrees ...

Special prosecutor: No charges against father of slain reporter in threats case

A special prosecutor has decided not to seek criminal charges after completing an investigation into Facebook posts written to a state senator by the father of slain Roanoke television reporter Alison Parker last year.

“Seeking criminal charges in this matter would neither be in the best interest of the commonwealth nor serve the ends of justice,” Michael J. Newman, the Danville commonwealth’s attorney, concluded in his six-page report filed in Franklin County Circuit Court this week.

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Newman concluded by noting that, “In several media stories after these allegations, Mr. Parker has apologized for the inappropriate language he used in these posts. During a heated election cycle, one cannot fault Senator Stanley in taking steps he felt necessary to protect his family after receiving these very inappropriate posts.”

But, added Newman, “While these statements are very inappropriate, given the totality of circumstances under which these statements were made, it is also not appropriate for the commonwealth to seek criminal charges in this matter.”

Perhaps if it were anyone else other than grieving Andy ...

 

[Ken56]

The prosecutor may want to be governor in the future so bringing charges against the current governors buddy might be career suicide........ya think? They are in their own special class now aren't they.

 

[Grapeshot]

Seems the Special Prosecutor disagrees ...

Special prosecutor: No charges against father of slain reporter in threats case


Perhaps if it were anyone else other than grieving Andy ...

Could not a Grand Jury, called for other reasons, bring this issue up and present a true bill, forcing the process?

If Andy were to cause bodily harm (beating), would he be excused/not charged because he was "grieving?"

When did grieving become a get-out-of-jail-free card?

 

[TFred]

Seems the Special Prosecutor disagrees ...

Just a small clarification: I assume the Special Prosecutor is an intelligent man, who very well knows the law, and therefore knows that Mr. Parker is indeed guilty of assault. What we have here is not so much a difference of opinion, but an intentional decision to allow Mr. Parker to assault someone without penalty.

As they say from time to time, it's good work if you can get it.

TFred