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Aldi Robbery in Milwaukee stopped by armed citizen

BROKENSPROKET

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...know how the windows were broken out of the entrance and exit. It looked like every one was broken in the first videos, and a Glass Co.Truck is parked outside the area in the latter ones. boar out.

The customer reports firing twice I think. One passsed throught the leg and another grazed the forehead. Almost a head shot. If he fired more than twice, then they were misses.
 

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The customer reports firing twice I think. One passsed throught the leg and another grazed the forehead. Almost a head shot. If he fired more than twice, then they were misses.

He fired "six or seven times" and apparently hit twice. Not sure what caused the glass to break since I haven't seen the video. Yes, there IS a video. Let's hope it gets released soon. Also, his firearm is a 9mm. Yep, I'm going there! LOL.

9mm VS .45 anyone? JK. Any gun with you is better than a gun not with you!
 

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He fired "six or seven times" and apparently hit twice. Not sure what caused the glass to break since I haven't seen the video. Yes, there IS a video. Let's hope it gets released soon. Also, his firearm is a 9mm. Yep, I'm going there! LOL.

9mm VS .45 anyone? JK. Any gun with you is better than a gun not with you!

You have to hit what you are shooting at for any of them to work.
 

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No one is saying anything about the broken glass soooo,...

... I'll just assume that when the Fire Dept arrived; as they always do, they made a traditional ax entrance. boar out.
 

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... I'll just assume that when the Fire Dept arrived; as they always do, they made a traditional ax entrance. boar out.

Good one, boar. THAT I want to see on video. All there training seems to have created a fetish of creating holes. OR with budget cuts, they can't train much and use evey call as an oppurtintiy to practice.

Back in 2002, when I lived in town, one of the neighbor kids wascooking something and forgot about it. He nearly banged in out door. We called 911. I ran in the house to get his sister out. The ceiling above the stove was blackened from the smoke, but not burnt and they still cut a hole in it.
 
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BROKENSPROKET

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He fired "six or seven times" and apparently hit twice. Not sure what caused the glass to break since I haven't seen the video. Yes, there IS a video. Let's hope it gets released soon. Also, his firearm is a 9mm. Yep, I'm going there! LOL.

9mm VS .45 anyone? JK. Any gun with you is better than a gun not with you!

That's why he said that he would be spending more time at the range. The Good Samaritan did good, but I would be a lil' embarrased with that average.
 

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This evening I went by the Aldi's where the attempted robbery occurred.

This grocery store is NOT legally posted against weapons or concealed carry. The requirement to have a 5" x 7" sign or larger on the outside of the building at every entrance, was not met.

It was not even properly posted at the entrance that Mr. Nazir Al-Mujaahid and his family used to enter the store.
 

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If this Aldi is like the one in Fitchburg, the doors are double sliding doors with a foyer in the middle. Someone running at high speed could impact the opening doors and end up torquing the frames enough to break the glass in both the left and right slide, but also the glass next to the door (as it would be open).

Those frames are aluminum molded and with leverage, not that hard to deform.

The only other theory is the backdrop of the shooting was the doors and it was bullets that broke the glass.
 

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I'm going to say something that I'm sure...

...will be misconstrued, most likely paint me as a racist and be deleted. If so, let it be. I will not defend my words for those who challenge them are simply avoiding, and reject the truth of our P.C. society, and I won't pop their bubble.

I'm grateful that the test case for all our Rights went down the way it did. Nothing was said by the intercity Politicians who all along were the most visible, reported, and loudest of the opposition.

My most sincere appreciation to the CCer for taking the race factor out of our Constitutional Right to self defense, and silencing the Politicians! It is far too late for the Sheriff to say we don't need the legal guns on the street, and on our side! YEAH, Job well done sir, we need more people like you. boar out.
 

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...will be misconstrued, most likely paint me as a racist and be deleted. If so, let it be. I will not defend my words for those who challenge them are simply avoiding, and reject the truth of our P.C. society, and I won't pop their bubble.

I'm grateful that the test case for all our Rights went down the way it did. Nothing was said by the intercity Politicians who all along were the most visible, reported, and loudest of the opposition.

My most sincere appreciation to the CCer for taking the race factor out of our Constitutional Right to self defense, and silencing the Politicians! It is far too late for the Sheriff to say we don't need the legal guns on the street, and on our side! YEAH, Job well done sir, we need more people like you. boar out.

The race of the guy who stopped the robbery has got all the anti's confused, in their feeble minds they thought only white redneck types would be legally carrying concealed firearms with the license.
Could you imagine all the BS that would be flung if this happened to be a white guy who shot at two black men? I am sure this has got Jeri's dingleberry followers having strokes right now, they have been mostly mute on the subject because of race, and because there is no blood for them to dance in. The only thing that could have been better is if a multi-race, dark skinned woman would have foiled their robbery. OMFG, these goofy anti-2A liberals heads would have exploded (or imploded). I keep reminding people at every chance that I am pleased that women can finally have the proper tools to defend themselves, and these liberal idiots have never had the idea of an armed woman cross their mind.

One Numbnut anti-2A liberal douche on the Journal site made a very ignorant statement that was something like "I bet these repugs never thought about black people carrying weapons, so I bet the try to repeal it now" Unbelievable, huh?
 

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We now stand with legal precedent that is very favorable...

...to ALL OUR RIGHTS. The people must obtain the entire file on this and post it. We must all have the knowledge of how the case was handled, and the contributing facts that formed the D A's decision to not charge the CCer. I believe WCI should take care of this for us, as the CCer did contact OUR organization, well, I'm a member and contribute but can't speak for everyone.

I have no idea how to go about this. Hay Paul, what do you think? boar out.
 

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Interesting observation but...

You saw the sign, didn't you? There is no such thing as "legally" posted in that failure to meet the specifications of Act 35 is not an illegal act. The relevant statute sets forth a description of what is notice. This does not mean that it is the only method by which notice could be given. Anybody who carries has the obligation to make a good faith effort to look for a sign. If a sign is there, the fact that it may not be in compliance with the size or location requirements of Act 35 does not mean you are free to ignore it with impunity. If you saw a sign, even a nonconforming one, and blow past it - you could be liable for trespass. If you didn't see a sign but went out of your way not to see it (e.g. looking at your feet as you enter), you could be liable for trespass. If you didn't see a sign but the sign was conforming you could be liable for trespass. Only if you, acting in good faith, did not see a sign AND the sign was nonconforming do you stand a good chance of not being liable for trespass. I understand people are not happy about places that post. Your best course is to shop elsewhere. Being cutesy just ain't the way to go.


This evening I went by the Aldi's where the attempted robbery occurred.

This grocery store is NOT legally posted against weapons or concealed carry. The requirement to have a 5" x 7" sign or larger on the outside of the building at every entrance, was not met.

It was not even properly posted at the entrance that Mr. Nazir Al-Mujaahid and his family used to enter the store.
 

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You saw the sign, didn't you? There is no such thing as "legally" posted in that failure to meet the specifications of Act 35 is not an illegal act. The relevant statute sets forth a description of what is notice. This does not mean that it is the only method by which notice could be given. Anybody who carries has the obligation to make a good faith effort to look for a sign. If a sign is there, the fact that it may not be in compliance with the size or location requirements of Act 35 does not mean you are free to ignore it with impunity. If you saw a sign, even a nonconforming one, and blow past it - you could be liable for trespass. If you didn't see a sign but went out of your way not to see it (e.g. looking at your feet as you enter), you could be liable for trespass. If you didn't see a sign but the sign was conforming you could be liable for trespass. Only if you, acting in good faith, did not see a sign AND the sign was nonconforming do you stand a good chance of not being liable for trespass. I understand people are not happy about places that post. Your best course is to shop elsewhere. Being cutesy just ain't the way to go.

Here is the statute involved in the weapons trepass: https://docs.legis.wisconsin.gov/statutes/statutes/943/II/13



Well, I had seen the sign on the TV news, thats why I knew it was there. I am sure that Nazir, did not see it on the TV news, until after the attempted robbery. I have heard no mention of Nazir being notified by any other mehod, about the stores request to not carry weapons.

The statutes spell out the minimum requirements for POSTING, that is what I was referring to. I don't think that the posting at Aldi's meets the legal requirements spelled out in the statutes. How would you identify other posting as meeting the requirements, without seeing them in the statutes?

I'm sorry that the phrase "legally posted" confused you, that was not my intention. I did not mean to imply that Aldi's had broken the law in their manner of posting. I meant to explain that they had NOT met the requirements for posting a building against weapons trespass, as outlined in the statute. I did not use the term "legaly notified".

A sign that is not visible to anyone, until after they have entered the building, would not seem to meet the requirements of the statute. Also, a sign on any door, may not be seen, if the door is open, when you pass thru it.
 
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