BB62 said:
Pay may Affect performance, but I doubt that it Effects it.
I'm glad I'm not the only one who sees things like this.
Maverick9 said:
Cops have higher risk, need to be compensated to prevent the temptation of bribery, and more highly educated (knowing the law on the fly). Lawyers and judges have lower risk by far, and can research the law and have help.
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If we really need cops to keep civilization from collapsing and becoming anarchy, we should be prepared to compensate them more equitably.
I don't accept your premise that they're necessary to "prevent civilization from collapsing".
And no, they're not at particularly high risk compared to other professions.
See the chart on page 4 here:
http://www.bls.gov/news.release/pdf/cfoi.pdf
That's for 2011. (Pages 8 & 9 have more detailed info.)
The fatality rate per 100,000 by industry:
1) Agriculture, forestry, fishing, hunting 24.4
2) Mining 15.8
3) Transportation & warehousing 15.0
4) Construction 8.9
5) "wholesale trade"(?) 4.9
6) Utilities 4.2
7) professional & business svcs 2.9
8) "other services" 2.9 - maybe police are here?
9) manufacturing 2.2
10) government 2.2 - maybe police are here?
11) leisure & hospitality 2.1
12) "information" 2.0
13) retail 1.9
14) financial 1.1
15) education & health 0.8
davidmcbeth said:
how much do workers get w/hs diplomas?
At McDonald's or Wally World, minumin wage.
And while some officers may enter the workforce with a tech diploma or college degree, some go from high school to the police academy (paid for by the taxpayers) to the streets.
Grapeshot said:
The mean intelligence quotient is placed at 100 = approximately 25% of the population. It is neither a low score, nor a high score.
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If "arming high school graduates with an IQ of 100 is just not a good idea" how would you apply that to our military
davidmcbeth said:
For the army, navy and marines ... IQ of 25
IQ of person to carry: 1 - its a right !
As others have pointed out, something that low is unmeasurable and the subject would likely be under constant care & in diapers, maybe not able to eat on its own, so would come under the category of "declared mentally defective" or whatever the legal term on the 4473 is, and legally unable to possess arms or ammo.
And I think that's a very good thing.
Grapeshot said:
"The US military has minimum enlistment standards at about the IQ 85 level. There have been two experiments with lowering this to 80 but in both cases these men could not master soldiering well enough to justify their costs."
http://en.metapedia.org/wiki/Intelligence_quotient
That's really scary... first that at only 1SD from the mean people aren't able to do basic work, and second that people close to that cutoff are given arms & told to defend the country. Sort of seems like they're being taken advantage of.
OC for ME said:
If cops only armed themselves when they knew they needed to be armed I'll wager that a great many "violent" criminals would not be so violent knowing that a cop was unarmed.
:shocker: You're joking, right? Do you honestly think that the crime rate would be lower, or the criminals less violent, if people (including cops) were unable to stop them?
EMNofSeattle said:
In New York it's barely enough to survive especially if one has a family.
Whether or not one is married or has caused children is not a concern of an employer.
They're hiring the person, her/his talents, etc.
