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What is the worst POS firearm you've ever owned?

Mechanic

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I'll try something back on topic and see where it gets me :lol::

I have what I consider two POS guns, the first is a Davis .380. These are the guys that the CA legislature put out of business for manufacturing Saturday Night Specials. Bought it for my wife because she complained everything else kicked too much. Turns out the thing is so small and light it kicks like hell and she can't prevent FTE unless she uses both hands. Practically impossible with a tiny POS like this.

Not sure this qualifies, but also have a WWII era Mauser 7.65 semi, manufactured without a safety. Fires and functions fine, but since you can't carry it with a chambered round, it's a POS in my book.
 

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I'm not trying to be mean and single out Hi-point, but when you see a 9mm or 45 or 40 or whatever for $150+/-, you should know you are getting crap. This goes for many other companies. Jennings, Bersa, I mean come on, if you are buying a gun like that for pp, you are saying that your life and the lives of loved ones are only worth $150
 

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I see what you are saying, but I have only had good experiences with my HI-point. I think what posseses people to buy them is they don't have a lot of money. I am of the belief that any gun can be a lemon, just like any car out there.

And I believe the reason that Hi-points are so inexpensive, not cheap, is that they are manufactured in the U.S., therefore no import fees and taxes, and they have absolutely no bells or whistles.

They are a simple blowback style, and they have a not so great but simple trigger.

I guarantee that most of the Glocks and XD's don't cost nearly as much to produce as they are being sold for. They need to add overseas shipping and other fees. Then they still need to make a profit.

So, I don't think they are cheap, I think they are inexpensive, and actually of decent quality.
 

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thx997303 wrote:
I see what you are saying, but I have only had good experiences with my HI-point. I think what posseses people to buy them is they don't have a lot of money. I am of the belief that any gun can be a lemon, just like any car out there.

And I believe the reason that Hi-points are so inexpensive, not cheap, is that they are manufactured in the U.S., therefore no import fees and taxes, and they have absolutely no bells or whistles.

They are a simple blowback style, and they have a not so great but simple trigger.

I guarantee that most of the Glocks and XD's don't cost nearly as much to produce as they are being sold for. They need to add overseas shipping and other fees. Then they still need to make a profit.

So, I don't think they are cheap, I think they are inexpensive, and actually of decent quality.
I agree. I'm not trying to insult anyone on wealth. But its a you get what you pay for deal. You are absolutely right, all manufacturers have lemons, I have had two lemons, one from S&W and one from Glock.
 

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So, to each his own.

If I have a Hi-point, you don't have to carry it.

Agreed?:D

ETA: And in the near future, I hope to be buying an XD40 service model in Olive Drab, and a Mossberg 500 12GA.
 

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apcci2 wrote:
I'm not trying to be mean and single out Hi-point, but when you see a 9mm or 45 or 40 or whatever for $150+/-, you should know you are getting crap. This goes for many other companies. Jennings, Bersa, I mean come on, if you are buying a gun like that for pp, you are saying that your life and the lives of loved ones are only worth $150

This is your opinion, and you have every right to it.......just as I do to disagree. Expensive/inexpensive are subjective words.......if the device functions the same way and is reliable, who the hell cares what it costs, and most people will pay the least expensive price for the most features.....you get this with Hi Point. Everything else said is opinion and rhetoric......cause nobody has yet been able to prove that there is anything wrong with these guns except that they are ugly and are inexpensive......if that's enough to make you go buy a gun that costs at least 4 to 5 times more, simply so it isn't an "ugly gun", I hope you feel good about your purchase. I know I do, and I feel smart for getting my money's worth and not having to take out a second loan to afford some personal protection.
 

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Hey buddy, let's not stir the pot. I think that there has been an agree to disagree conclusion here.

No need to get mad, he has his opinion, we have our opinions, and there is no need to force them either way.

Remember I also like Hi-points, just like you.
 

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It would have to be a tie between an early model ParaOrdnance P10 (45ACP) and a Springfield Armory Micro 45 Both were "Jam-A-Matics" from the first shot fired.:banghead:
 

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I've had $80 Mosins Nagants that were pretty bad out of the box, but after some TLC, they were firing better than many bolt-action rifles five times the price.

Come October, I anticipate purchasing quite a few Hi-Points, as I see a use for inexpensive pistols...
 

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I love Mosin Nagants, They aren't cheaply made, they are just numerous and old. Large supply, not large demand. They're tough, reliable, and accurate. If you're bore is good.
 

.40 Cal

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Glock 17 with a NY trigger. I didn't put it in, but I did buy it that way. So was the gun a POS, or was I for buying it that way? First handgun, so I didn't know much. It soured me for Glocks and all the polymer handguns.
 

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I didn't own it, but I got to try a Charles Daly 1911 clone. It jammed, stovepiped, and generally couldn't hit a damn thing. Of course the ammo I was using was pretty much junk, being steel cased WW2-era ammo. :shock:

I then tried out a Walther P38/P1 which hit whatever I wanted to and had no jams or any problems at all. I really wish I could find one of those again, if only for plinking.
 

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Glock 17 with a NY trigger. I didn't put it in, but I did buy it that way. So was the gun a POS, or was I for buying it that way? First handgun, so I didn't know much. It soured me for Glocks and all the polymer handguns.
Yeah I can't imagine having an excessively heavy trigger, especially with the relatively long trigger pull they have to begin with. How heavy was the NY trigger anyway? 10lbs or so?
 

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It wasn't mine, but my girlfriend was given a little Phoenix Arms .22 that I just hated.
It had a ridiculously heavy trigger, was hard to rack, and had some weird multiple safety set up where you had to remember the proper combination of ons & offs to do anything with it, like release the mag or dis-assemble it. There was just nothing easy about that pistol at all.
 
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