What Caliber Do You Carry? And Why? Terminal Ballistics As Viewed In A Morgue!

[Lurchiron]

From what I understand, the ceramic part of the spark plug is used.

To be returned with the pointy end of your bullet Du jour...:idea:

 

[Interceptor_Knight]

I am on the same thought pattern as you are Nemo except, in an vehicle I carry a 9mm by my right leg with the idea that if I would be grabbed at a stoplight I may need to shoot through the door. If he has me by the throat I don't know if I would be able to get the gun up in the window with all of the arms and hands flailing around and I would just as soon he did not see it comming. Otherwise I also have a 12ga for home defense and carry a .38 snubby.

A door can easily stop a 9mm and even some .357Mag rounds depending on what part of the door you happen to enter. I personally tried this on junk cars to see what it would take to penetrate.

 

[Kc.38]

A door can easily stop a 9mm and even some .357Mag rounds depending on what part of the door you happen to enter. I personally tried this on junk cars to see what it would take to penetrate.

I had thought of this as well. I guess that I would hope that the shock would be enough for him to release me or to slow him up enough so I can raise the weapon and shoot out the window. If all else failed I would just spray the door.

 

[davegran]

I had thought of this as well. I guess that I would hope that the shock would be enough for him to release me or to slow him up enough so I can raise the weapon and shoot out the window. If all else failed I would just spray the door.

If my defensive strategy included the possibility of shooting a 9mm through a car door I think I'd try to find some +P ball ammo, like Winchester Rangers, 124 grain FMJ, 1,235 F.P.S. But try them out on a junk car like I.K. did first to give you some confidence in the round.

 

[HandyHamlet]

What kind of a defensive strategy would one find themselves in that requires shooting through a car door?

:shocker:

World's slowest drive by perhaps? Death Race 2000 spectator?

 

[Kc.38]

What kind of a defensive strategy would one find themselves in that requires shooting through a car door?

:shocker:

World's slowest drive by perhaps? Death Race 2000 spectator?

The discussion had evolved to a carjacking with BG coming from behind and smashing your side window and grabbing you by the throat. Now, what would you do and what kind of ammo would you use? My post was in line with thinking that getting a weapon up to the window with steering wheel and arms and whatnot in the way, my first shot would be thru the door. This is the only defensive strategy I could come up with for this senerio. I am only here to learn.

 

[Lurchiron]

What kind of a defensive strategy would one find themselves in that requires shooting through a car door?

:shocker:

World's slowest drive by perhaps? Death Race 2000 spectator?

Getting caught making out in the car with the wife/girlfriend, and that escaped killer with the hooked arm shows up???
[video]http://www.myspace.com/video/scary/urban-legend-the-hook/33155778[/video] :shocker:

 

[Herr Heckler Koch]

Apropos our new Castle Doctrine extending to a motor vehicle, a CWP instructor taught, "kill a carjacker when he breaks the plane of the window." There was not a Castle Doctrine in place at the time but all of the elements for the defense of self-defense are in place.

 

[HandyHamlet]

The discussion had evolved to a carjacking with BG coming from behind and smashing your side window...

Yes... If someone breaks out your window you have a conveniently giant hole to shoot through...

 

[MilProGuy]

...I am only here to learn.

Learning here is possible, but you must have a great deal of patience and get used to snide remarks from the peanut gallery.

 

[rcav8r]

shattering your windshield won't necessarily make it a hole, since they are laminated with layers of plastic between glass to prevent flying glass. Your other windows however, will probably fall apart.

 

[Herr Heckler Koch]

I did an extraction from a pick-up laying on its right side. My Pt could not be moved enough to lift through the drivers door so I tried to kick the windshield out. I had to ask for the Halligan and crack around the boundaries of the window and then kick it out.

 

[j4l]

What kind of a defensive strategy would one find themselves in that requires shooting through a car door?

:shocker:

World's slowest drive by perhaps? Death Race 2000 spectator?

Reading comprehension, again...kids these days, I swear..

Car-jacking. Very common, you might have heard of them in the news from time to time.. or seen them on your Playstation games. (GTA)

An entirely valid scenario to consider someday, when you get a driver's license (IF you get one).

As to the car-jacking posts- 2 things to consider:

1) 9mm.. unless heavy ball loads, or an incredibly thin/crappy Yugo's door- forget firing THRU the door. likely to harm yourself more than anyone outside the vehicle. In the event you do manage to get one to penetrate, aim higher than intended, as when it passes through the intermediate materials (interior plastic, window glass if rolled-down, exterior metal, etc.) the rounds will usually be deflected down/below point of aim.

2) muzzle-flash. folks tend to forget that, esp. when firing so close to themselves-such as you will be while seating close to steering wheel, etc.
that flash can burn skin/ignite clothing.

 

[oak1971]

Reading comprehension, again...kids these days, I swear..

Car-jacking. Very common, you might have heard of them in the news from time to time.. or seen them on your Playstation games. (GTA)

An entirely valid scenario to consider someday, when you get a driver's license (IF you get one).

As to the car-jacking posts- 2 things to consider:

1) 9mm.. unless heavy ball loads, or an incredibly thin/crappy Yugo's door- forget firing THRU the door. likely to harm yourself more than anyone outside the vehicle. In the event you do manage to get one to penetrate, aim higher than intended, as when it passes through the intermediate materials (interior plastic, window glass if rolled-down, exterior metal, etc.) the rounds will usually be deflected down/below point of aim.

2) muzzle-flash. folks tend to forget that, esp. when firing so close to themselves-such as you will be while seating close to steering wheel, etc.
that flash can burn skin/ignite clothing.

Please cite a recent news story of a carjacking foiled by shooting through ones own car door, should be an interesting read.

 

[Herr Heckler Koch]

2) muzzle-flash. folks tend to forget that, esp. when firing so close to themselves-such as you will be while seating close to steering wheel, etc. that flash can burn skin/ignite clothing.

Only Barbara Streisand's negligee. There's a point-shooting drill of shooting across one's chest with the gun held the grip thumb's width away.

 

[HandyHamlet]

shattering your windshield won't necessarily make it a hole, since they are laminated with layers of plastic between glass to prevent flying glass. Your other windows however, will probably fall apart.

If the attacker can't break the window he can't wrap his arms around your neck... So why would you need to shoot through the door again?

Reading comprehension, again...kids these days, I swear..

Car-jacking. Very common, you might have heard of them in the news from time to time.. or seen them on your Playstation games. (GTA)

An entirely valid scenario to consider someday, when you get a driver's license (IF you get one).

If you're carjacked... When the attacker opens up the door... Won't you have a giant hole to shoot through? Left by the, um, open door?

Keep jerking off to your adult male kill fantasies though. 'Cause that ain't creepy and never gets old.

 

[Kc.38]

Learning here is possible, but you must have a great deal of patience and get used to snide remarks from the peanut gallery.

See, I have learned something already!!!!:monkey

 

[Brass Magnet]

Learning here is possible, but you must have a great deal of patience and get used to snide remarks from the peanut gallery.

.....and MilProGuy's judicious post count-padding.

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[thebigsd]

.....and MilProGuy's judicious post count-padding.

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Lol.

I just want to thank you for posting. I look forward to seeing people's responses.

 

[GLOCK21GB]

38 special +P Hollow Points...because over penetration might land you in Prison via Manslaughter....