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yes only 4 minutes but a good four minutes, probably the best four minutes on the subjectI have ever seen. not only theAZ senator but GlennBeck himself carries, how many tv personalities brag about that and endorse carrying. the subject about was open and concealed carry sorry if you missed it, because it was pro
shame I am not important enough to have had this posted next to the map on "recent forum postings". I can count on my one hand the times a syndicated TV show backed our cause.CNN of all places
yet for two days there was a posting next to the map about a radio program in upstate NY that no one could get or hear.
here is the transcript from the show last night
BECK: OK. There is one problem that I have with gun-free zones. And that`s that bad guys shoot people in gun-free zones. They don`t seem to care about the little sign. Too often no guns results in dead kids.
Finally, one lawmaker has had enough, Arizona State Senator Karen Johnson. She`s sponsoring a bill that would allow people -- think how crazy this is -- 21 years and older, that have a concealed weapons permit to carry their firearms at public colleges and universities. Amen. Oh, no, did I just say that? Oh, no. It might save lives, because that`s what guns do. They save lives.
Let`s go to the senator now.
What put you over the edge here on this lawsuit -- this proposal?
KAREN JOHNSON, ARIZONA STATE SENATOR: Well, Mr. Beck, we had several teachers, actually, came to me and related the fact that they actually had a lot of concerns of being in their classrooms totally unprotected, especially after you have the Virginia Tech incident, and then you also had the incident that happened in Illinois.
BECK: OK. You know what? I said the same thing after Illinois. I said it after Virginia. You know what? Somebody in that classroom shooting that guy, especially in Illinois, where the guy took the time to reload. All you have to do is get down on one knee, get behind a chair and shoot the guy and stop him. But you know what? The first time it does. And that person with the concealed weapon`s permit misses and hits somebody else, all of the focus will be on that shooter and not the one who came in.
They`ll say, "Look, yes, but the person with the concealed weapons permit, look what they did. They killed somebody." Instead of saying, yes, but they might have saved ten other people.
JOHNSON: Exactly. Exactly. And I think that we absolutely have to move ahead with this. People have Second Amendment rights in this country. And when they`ve gone through the training that a CCW permit holder gets, I think the idea of something like that happening is very minute.
BECK: You know, I used to live -- by the way, I don`t know what your buttons say. But I love anybody who wears a lot of buttons, because they`re always the fun ones in the office. The -- I shouldn`t say that. I work with a few liberals that the buttons would drive me a little crazy.
But anyway, you know, I used to live in Arizona. And I remember going to the movie theaters. And it used to say, "Check your handgun at the ticket counter," at the lobby. Does it still say that in Arizona?
JOHNSON: I have not seen any signs like that.
BECK: Really?
JOHNSON: In Arizona we are allowed to carry open. There is a law in Arizona that allows you to carry open. So maybe if you`re openly carrying they want you to check it. If that it`s concealed, nobody knows.
BECK: Yes. You know what? The thing is, is everybody -- because the people who are against this will say all these crazy people will be in shootouts all the time, everybody will be carrying guns.
I carry a gun. I mean, I know people that carry guns all the time. Concealed weapons permit holders are responsible, for the love of Pete. I don`t know any of them that have ever been in a shootout.
I do know one person that happened to be at a convenience store that had the clerk being held by a gun. He walked behind the chip counter, pulled out his gun and said, "You might want to put it down." I know that one. But I don`t know anybody who`s been involved in a shootout, do you?
JOHNSON: No. No, I don`t. We have approximately a hundred thousand CCW holder permits here in Arizona. And we haven`t had any incidents of anything going wrong.
BECK: Senator. Thanks so much. Good luck. Back in just a minute.
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