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Vote on SB 11, Campus Carry, Coming up next in Texas House 26 May, 2015

Glockster

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Frankly it seemed as though they didn't put up much of a fight. Miles to go on other issues but this and OC is huge progress!
 

nonameisgood

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They knew the votes were already committed, so like Clayton Williams said...


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Glock 1st fan

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Frankly it seemed as though they didn't put up much of a fight. Miles to go on other issues but this and OC is huge progress!
I could not listen to the video live. Those idiots through every thing out there except aliens landing at the university to try to derail it.

Im not good with the names but like the older black lady who tried the approach of how dangerous this law would be but when they asked in 14 states where campus carry is legal what has been the issue? She could not reply because there has been none yet when she tried to turn it around there was Virginia Tech and other colleges where shooters had free reign. She only had the come back of "Why do we need this?" Despite the fact they were answering her.

All in all this was a good day in which the majority for once was actually listened to and supported. The majority of Americans want this and its becoming more clear every day with those who voted for gun control being voted out (Thankfully they did not get their wish in time) and replaced with progun voters.

And more evidence that the majority wants gun rights is the fact not a single dime had to be spent lobbying for gun rights versus the fact Blooming idiot spent millions paying people to falsify their votes and he still lost.

The majority is being heard and it is an awesome sight!
 

77zach

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I haven't examined the bill but fear it will be useless. Criminal penalties apply to carrying in areas the school wants to ban. We will see, but I see campuses being patchworks of "ok" and "no go" zones. Storage is not a part of the bill so if you have to go in or through a zone, the gun stays in the car. Or, probably even more commonly, it stays at home because of campus parking considerations.
 

nonameisgood

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I haven't examined the bill but fear it will be useless. Criminal penalties apply to carrying in areas the school wants to ban. We will see, but I see campuses being patchworks of "ok" and "no go" zones. Storage is not a part of the bill so if you have to go in or through a zone, the gun stays in the car. Or, probably even more commonly, it stays at home because of campus parking considerations.
During the Senate discussion yesterday, they laid down "legislative intent" which focused on how very limited they expect the prohibitions to be. As a means of assuring the campuses do not over-restrict there are two things. First, they cannot generally prohibit carry or make rules which effectively result in this general prohibition. Next, they have to submit to their respective board of regents and the House and Senate oversight committees, as list and description of where handguns will be prohibited and why. Discussion used an example of a campus where there is a day care or elementary school. The restriction would have to apply only to the specific areas occupied by these activities and could not be a blanket "in any College of Education building." (my wording of the example they used as a for-instance.) They also used the example of a multistory building with space on the first floor for medical care, and that the prohibition could not be the entire building but only very specific spaces and for unique reasons. Specifically, a building's use as a college is not a unique use that warrants prohibition of handguns. Dorms may also not be made GFZs. I expect that schools will make restrictive storage requirements for students in dorms, as well they should - when a student leave a gun in his/her room, it needs to be secure.
 
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