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Vermont history queries

NewHampshireNative

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The law that i posted is not just for correctional officers and prisons. it's for all I called the state house and they sited the same law. I then followed it up with a call to the state police and they sited the same law. I then called My dad who works in the state house with the governor and they looked into and cited the same law. So I had the law right. So you can think what you would like But I know the law and if you try and carrier in a state owned or leased building or LAND ( State fair grounds) you will go to jail. As for this law pertaining to municipality's I said it did NOT unless it's a state owned/leased building in the town. I'm in Vermont everyday for family or for fun and I can tell you while Vermont seems to have no gun laws it does. City's and towns are passing their own gun laws. So we can play who has the bigger stick and who can use goolge better to find stuff on the internet all day long if you would like grapshot. But intill you come up here and live it let the locals be.
 

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NewHampshireNative2005 wrote:
The law that i posted is not just for correctional officers and prisons. it's for all I called the state house and they sited the same law. I then followed it up with a call to the state police and they sited the same law. I then called My dad who works in the state house with the governor and they looked into and cited the same law. So I had the law right. So you can think what you would like But I know the law and if you try and carrier in a state owned or leased building or LAND ( State fair grounds) you will go to jail. As for this law pertaining to municipality's I said it did NOT unless it's a state owned/leased building in the town. I'm in Vermont everyday for family or for fun and I can tell you while Vermont seems to have no gun laws it does. City's and towns are passing their own gun laws. So we can play who has the bigger stick and who can use goolge better to find stuff on the internet all day long if you would like grapshot. But intill you come up here and live it let the locals be.
I do not disagree with the bottom line (not on state property), but disagree with the acceptability of source/cited data. Tell you what - find me somebody, that was prosecuted under your source and link it here. Would very much like to see which "warden or superintendent" testified that he had not given approval and at which "institution" this infraction occurred. Perhaps your dad can be instrumental in getting your AG's opinion on the matter. Since you "know the law", can we expect you will be your own attorney if the need arises?

Most of us have long ago learned to not ask opinions of LEO, politicians or relatives and then quote them as gospel. They are all to frequently faulty in their knowledge on such matters and hearsay responses are not considered cites.

I was not the poster that asked you about other municipalities and state fair - poster Jay was - I only repeated his request because you had not answered him. Suggest you reread the thread.

[line]I do not consider this a contest as to "who has the bigger stick and who can use goolge better" but am being purely objective. Vermont statutes regarding guns are at best difficult to locate and relate one to the other when one does not deal with them regularly.

I neither insulted you nor spoke disparagingly to you. Suggest that as a matter of OCDO rules and common civility you do likewise. My goal is to perpetuate the standards of OCDO, learn as much as I can and share that knowledge wherever and whenever possible. If that is too altruistic for you, the problem is not mine.

Insofar as "letting the locals be," I have found a vast majority of the people there to be very open and friendly, even accommodating. Neither am I going to wait until I live there to better understand the laws - hope to make a trip up in the near future.

More to the last point, NO participant is restricted, barred or discouraged from any sub-forum because they do not reside in that state - all are welcome as they should be. We share and help each other - that is the strength of OCDO.

[line]BTW - you may prove to be right on which statute provides the enforcement. If that is the case, I am appalled at the extremely poor wording and can see a legitimate challenge possibility. IANAL

Yata hey

Edited to clarify verbiage and disclaimer.
 

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Jay wrote:
M1911a1lvr wrote:
No CCW/OC in any Federal, State or Municipal Buildings.

The State fairgrounds.
Could you please cite the state statues regarding carrying in State or Municipal building, and also on state fairgrounds. I did not know that VT had such laws.
Jay the answer to carrying in state buildings appears to be normally "no" based upon earlier on going discussion and cites.


Municipalities are totally preempted regarding firearms except for a few things like discharge - see below
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Vermont Statutes Annotated title 24, § 2295 states:
Except as otherwise provided by law, no town, city or incorporated village, by ordinance, resolution or other enactment, shall directly regulate hunting, fishing and trapping or the possession, ownership, transportation, transfer, sale, purchase, carrying, licensing or registration of traps, firearms, ammunition or components of firearms or ammunition. This section shall not limit the powers conferred upon a town, city or incorporated village under section 2291(8) of this title. The provisions of this section shall supersede any inconsistent provisions of a municipal charter.

I do not know the answer to the state fair or the why of it.

Yata hey

Edited to correct links.
 
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