The First Gay President

[Beretta92FSLady]

I think I like females more, since I work hard to support a wife and 2 daughters.:lol:

Got ya beat: Wife, and three daughters (and one son).

 

[Beretta92FSLady]

Not really sure if the majority of citizens think that gay marriage is 'all that and a bag of chips'. Seems to be a loony-lib-sock-puppet manufactured non-issue.

Of course it's a non-issue. That so-called non-issue is so much a non-issue that people on both sides are worked up; from the small minority of Gays, to the robust majority of Christians.--like you stated though, it's a non-issue. Kinda makes one wonder why a non-issue would be talked about so much in churches, and pushed so hard by Religious folks, if, that is, it was a non-issue.

 

[jbone]

Seems to me I started a thread on how Obozo has conveniently changed his life long position on gay marriage. And a few of the Gays have turned this into hate, go elsewhere, and dolphin nonsense. And, something about Mr. Hi-Point, which gun was the gay from KY threatening me with?

News Flash! Obama is using the Gay and Lesbian community. He’d rather have you humping and marrying a tree stump than an individual of the same sex, but your few votes are vote’s never-the-less, in a race he’s losing. He would sell his sole for four more years of Transformation. Contrary to what you may have heard on MSNBC he did not evolve, his was politicking. Not to mention Obama as a Muslim believes in creation not evolution.

 

[Tawnos]

Seems to me I started a thread on how Obozo has conveniently changed his life long position on gay marriage. And a few of the Gays have turned this into hate, go elsewhere, and dolphin nonsense. And, something about Mr. Hi-Point, which gun was the gay from KY threatening me with?

News Flash! Obama is using the Gay and Lesbian community. He’d rather have you humping and marrying a tree stump than an individual of the same sex, but your few votes are vote’s never-the-less, in a race he’s losing. He would sell his sole for four more years of Transformation. Contrary to what you may have heard on MSNBC he did not evolve, his was politicking. Not to mention Obama as a Muslim believes in creation not evolution.

This is a grand slam of ignorance folks, look closely, you haven't see derp this prime in years!

1) Name calling like jbone is in elementary school. Oooh, Obozo, clever.
2) Gays turn something into hate - odd, can you point that out?
3) Hyperbole about humping tree stumps
4) Misspelling "soul" as "sole" - or an implication that the President would sell the bottom of his shoes.
5) The old canard of Obama being a Muslim, as if that mattered, even if it were true

How does it feel to be a shrinking minority, less and less relevant each passing year, old man jbone?

 

[Beretta92FSLady]

[snippers]

News Flash! Obama is using the Gay and Lesbian community. [snippers]

Of course he is; he is a political body. I hope most LGBT-people aren't under the impression that, for the most part, this is anything other than a political move. Although, it is a political negative for him, IMO, so I am not sure how this is a good political move for him; he already has the Liberal vote (not all Gays are Liberal).

But what more would we expect from a political body? Do you actually beleive that Romney is pro-firearm, pro-OC, pro-CC?

 

[jbone]

This is a grand slam of ignorance folks, look closely, you haven't see derp this prime in years!

1) Name calling like jbone is in elementary school. Oooh, Obozo, clever.
2) Gays turn something into hate - odd, can you point that out?
3) Hyperbole about humping tree stumps
4) Misspelling "soul" as "sole" - or an implication that the President would sell the bottom of his shoes.
5) The old canard of Obama being a Muslim, as if that mattered, even if it were true

How does it feel to be a shrinking minority, less and less relevant each passing year, old man jbone?

Another one of the

(fags, that is)

goes on the attack. You are such a predicable hypocrite Tawnos. You approach you posts like Obozo approaches his campaigns, hoping ignorant folks will listen to insignificant BS rather than reality. Old man, sure, ok, I’ve been around a few years. Shrinking, sure, ok, I’ll give you that too, since I was one 76” and now only 75” tall, back injury.

You really have intolerance for straight people. Tawanos, which phobia is yours; fear of the opposite sex, straight people, or both.


Strange you are! Its liberal Obama surrogate Time magazine’s picture, article, and label of "First Gay President" and the gays attack the right over it. Sounds as if you are not very happy with being used by Obozo!

 

[jbone]

Of course he is; he is a political body. I hope most LGBT-people aren't under the impression that, for the most part, this is anything other than a political move....But what more would we expect from a political body?

Absolutly!

Do you actually beleive that Romney is pro-firearm, pro-OC, pro-CC?

I see your point, but I do actually believe Obozo will transform this great county into a third world **** hole, void of our constitution. Where other politicians have willfully craved away at the constitution over the years, his dream it to completely eliminate it all together, no rights period.

 

[Beretta92FSLady]

Absolutly!



I see your point, but I do actually believe Obozo will transform this great county into a third world **** hole, void of our constitution. Where other politicians have willfully craved away at the constitution over the years, his dream it to completely eliminate it all together, no rights period.

I would ask if we could be reasonable people in all of this, but you seem to think that President Obama is the anti-God or something. While worry-warts like you are fixing to kill over from a heart-attack before the Second Coming, the rest of us will sit back, and be reasonable about what a person's motives are, and to what extent they wish to take--our Nation--for example.

I wish others who share your views of what President Obama wants to do to America would sit back, read some of the overly-dramatic political rhetoric (that's really what it is, right?) and realize that that type of talk perpetuates what has become a full-blown gutter-fight between two factions of this State--that actually occupy the same coin.

 

[jbone]

I would ask if we could be reasonable people in all of this, but you seem to think that President Obama is the anti-God or something. While worry-warts like you are fixing to kill over from a heart-attack before the Second Coming, the rest of us will sit back, and be reasonable about what a person's motives are, and to what extent they wish to take--our Nation--for example.

I wish others who share your views of what President Obama wants to do to America would sit back, read some of the overly-dramatic political rhetoric (that's really what it is, right?) and realize that that type of talk perpetuates what has become a full-blown gutter-fight between two factions of this State--that actually occupy the same coin.

You must be joking of course! Or how would you’re flat out lie "but you seem to think that President Obama is the anti-God or something" fit into your realm of reasonable people. You insert hyperbole just after Lord Tawnos condemns it? More of the double standard I see.

Like the others you are looking for something that isn’t here. You beef is with Obama, not the majority, the straight community. Ask him why he has exploited you; ask the left why the rainbow halo, and the false words of “The First Gay President”. Abandon him as he has you, and the entire country.

Hey Tawnos,

"fixing to kill over from a heart-attack"

That don't look right, attack!

 

[Beretta92FSLady]

You must be joking of course! Or how would you’re flat out lie "but you seem to think that President Obama is the anti-God or something" fit into your realm of reasonable people. You insert hyperbole just after Lord Tawnos condemns it? More of the double standard I see.

Like the others you are looking for something that isn’t here. You beef is with Obama, not the majority, the straight community. Ask him why he has exploited you; ask the left why the rainbow halo, and the false words of “The First Gay President”. Abandon him as he has you, and the entire country.

Hey Tawnos, That don't look right, attack!

I didn't state you think that, I stated that your tone seems to insinuate it.--yes, perception is hyperbole when the statement isn't overt.

I am all down for a double-standard, just to piss you off

I have no beef with the straight community, I was raised by two straight people, and grew-up in a straight environment. President Obama is a politician; I will not concern myself with whether or not it is or is not a political move for him to support Gay Marriage; although, it would be a political negative for him, so I am not sure why he would support something that could end his presidency.

Obama is the first President to come out in support of Gay Marriage--I have to state, that takes guts...political guts.

I won't vote for president Obama because he stated he supports Gay Marriage. I AM voting for President Obama because the alternative is much worse.; what a pickle!

Is Tawnos gay? Did I miss something here? If Tawnos is Hetero, and you are claiming he is anti-hetero, that is odd.

 

[PrayingForWar]

Of course he is; he is a political body. I hope most LGBT-people aren't under the impression that, for the most part, this is anything other than a political move. Although, it is a political negative for him, IMO, so I am not sure how this is a good political move for him; he already has the Liberal vote (not all Gays are Liberal).

But what more would we expect from a political body? Do you actually beleive that Romney is pro-firearm, pro-OC, pro-CC?

I don't see how it's a negative for him, at least not a significant one, and certainly far less significant than a stagnant economy.

Nobody really cares about gay marriage as far as I can tell. I don't support it per say, but it's so insignificant to me that I probably wouldn't show up to vote for a ban on it. You can be just as content or miserable as all the married people and give up having sex 3 times a day if you want, don't know why you need the paperwork to validate it.

He has the idiot vote secured there's no doubt. If you want to jump into that camp it's your perogative. I'm pretty sure you're not dumb enough to actually believe this guy has accomplished a single positive thing, or enhanced your standard or living in the slightest way. Not all gays are libtards, so very true. I'll go so far as to say some gays just want to keep their inclinations private and don't even support the gay marriage agenda. They're happy that they can carry guns and don't have toothless democrats in sheets of the Robert Byrd persuasion jumping out of pickup trucks beating them up anymore.

Is Romney pro gun? No, he's not even gun friendly. He's a political hack who knows better than to do anything more that will upset gun owners. I'm not a single issue voter though. Since the current make-up of the legislature, and the expected make up of those in the future are highly unlikely to allow anti-gun laws to see the light of day I'll support (puke) Romney because he's not the moonbat messiah for one. For two I think he might actually do a few things right regarding our financial house.

Besides that we need to make sure we get the legislature we need to roll back obozocare, no child left behind, Frank-Dodd, and curtail the bureaucratic waste.

 

[Tawnos]

Another one of the goes on the attack. You are such a predicable hypocrite Tawnos. You approach you posts like Obozo approaches his campaigns, hoping ignorant folks will listen to insignificant BS rather than reality. Old man, sure, ok, I’ve been around a few years. Shrinking, sure, ok, I’ll give you that too, since I was one 76” and now only 75” tall, back injury.

You really have intolerance for straight people. Tawanos, which phobia is yours; fear of the opposite sex, straight people, or both.


Strange you are! Its liberal Obama surrogate Time magazine’s picture, article, and label of "First Gay President" and the gays attack the right over it. Sounds as if you are not very happy with being used by Obozo!

I fear your spelling.

It's gonna be a shock to my fiance when she finds out I have "fear of the opposite sex, straight people, or both." Good thing it's still before the wedding! Time to go find me a nice man who will go hunting with me and such. I'm sure my gay friends can introduce me to somebody.

More seriously, though, this is a great article: How to win a culture war and lose a generation.

... when it comes to homosexuality, we no longer think in the black-at-white categories of the generations before ours. We know too many wonderful people from the LGBT community to consider homosexuality a mere “issue.” These are people, and they are our friends. When they tell us that something hurts them, we listen. ...

It's hard to insult me by calling me gay when I know so many wonderful gay people. So what, they are sexually attracted to people of the same sex? If somehow you have to justify the fact that I'm secure in my own place while you feel the need to resort to name calling and homophobic slurs (and the term is used correctly here, calling a straight man "gay" as an insult only works if you believe being gay is something worth shame - if you irrationally disapprove of those who are born that way), then that's fine. But it proves your impending irrelevance.

As for being a hypocrite, I'd listen to find out how you figure, but it doesn't really matter to me. Your opinion really isn't that important, because you've lost touch with the pulse of this country.

 

[Tawnos]

Is Tawnos gay? Did I miss something here? If Tawnos is Hetero, and you are claiming he is anti-hetero, that is odd.

I honestly don't think it entered his mind that a straight person could possibly be okay with gay people. It's like the thought is so anathematic to him, that in order to rectify the cognitive dissidence I was suddenly transformed from "hetero" to "anti-hetero". However, I'm still with the same lovely lady you met at Dixie's BBQ.

 

[jbone]

I'm sure my gay friends can introduce me to somebody.

I can believe that.

...an insult only works if you believe being gay is something worth shame...

There you go!

It’s important, and bothers you like hell. You fear the majority who don’t support gay marriage. My opinion is so important to you that it requires continual attacks in attempt to suppress. Too bad, won’t work. Somewhere you’ve learned perversion is acceptable and morality is to be feared. You fear the majority, the pulse. You’re a blood clot.

 

[jbone]

I honestly don't think it entered his mind that a straight person could possibly be okay with gay people. It's like the thought is so anathematic to him, that in order to rectify the cognitive dissidence I was suddenly transformed from "hetero" to "anti-hetero". However, I'm still with the same lovely lady you met at Dixie's BBQ.

It still hasn't entered your mind that it wasn't about me, and was about Obozo claiming to support what he doesn't give hoot about. I'm smart enough to not chance a position I’ve held over my lifetime, and so did Obozo in case you forgot already. Then days ago he changed his position for politics, seeking votes for re-election. You don't have to like my opinion but you damn sure have respond to it since it bothers you so much. Yes my opinion matters even to you Lord Tawnos, spelling errors and all.

 

[CharleyCherokee]

I love how everyone ignores my point. If you want to get married go ahead. It's perfectly legal in any of these states for a gay couple to get married. The whole argument here is not over the marriage, but rather the government benefits of such.

I'll go ahead and add to the dismay in this thread by saying that gay by genetics is bs. If that were the case it would have been bred out by now. But perhaps I'm wrong and despite the incapability of gays to breed the gene somehow keeps popping up in the populace. Don't get me wrong here I really don't care if that's your thing, but to try and honestly say that it's genetic and then within the same thread proclaim that a rising number of the populace is gay is ridiculous. Recessive genes are recessive for a reason... They don't benefit the species.

*May I suggest that being an adult forum consisting of gun owners that we are old enough to at least have a filter option for "salty" language.*

 

[Tawnos]

It’s important, and bothers you like hell. You fear the majority who don’t support gay marriage. My opinion is so important to you that it requires continual attacks in attempt to suppress. Too bad, won’t work. Somewhere you’ve learned perversion is acceptable and morality is to be feared. You fear the majority, the pulse. You’re a blood clot.

Actually, the reason I don't think your opinion, or that of the majority's, is important, is because rights and equality aren't things to be put to a majority vote.

 

[Tawnos]

I love how everyone ignores my point. If you want to get married go ahead. It's perfectly legal in any of these states for a gay couple to get married. The whole argument here is not over the marriage, but rather the government benefits of such.

It is not legal in most states for them to get married, you're lying to claim otherwise.

I'll go ahead and add to the dismay in this thread by saying that gay by genetics is bs. If that were the case it would have been bred out by now. But perhaps I'm wrong and despite the incapability of gays to breed the gene somehow keeps popping up in the populace. Don't get me wrong here I really don't care if that's your thing, but to try and honestly say that it's genetic and then within the same thread proclaim that a rising number of the populace is gay is ridiculous. Recessive genes are recessive for a reason... They don't benefit the species.

Your ignorance is astounding. I have red hair, which is caused by a recessive gene. The majority of the population has type O blood, also caused by a recessive gene. Recessive genes are called recessive because a non-recessive gene will express itself over the recessive one if both are present in a diploid pair, it has nothing to do with benefits to the species. In fact, recessive genes can become the norm in a society if the expression of the recessive gene provides a reproductive advantage.

As for "being bred out" - that's just more examples of your own ignorance. There are many reasons for a genetic basis to sexual orientation which doesn't lead to being bred out. Among them are enhanced social stability leading to a greater chance for co-shared genes to be passed down and the ability of homosexual people to have children. Many other individually-reproduction-limiting behaviors would also be bred out given your simplistic model of genetics, but they're not, because your model and understanding are both flawed.

 

[DrakeZ07]

Oh mah GAH! F*gs everywhere in this thread! Run for the hills before the locusts and plagues are unleashed. Run before the little bunnies die. Run before they start teaching how to have gay relations in school!

/sarcasm

Did I hit all the top arguments fundamentalists use? I would hate to leave any out.

You forgot Poland ._.

Ewww f*g spit. It's your fault for letting them get that close to you. We need identifying markers for all f*gs. I think we need legislation declaring that they must all wear... Rainbow pins!

Yes, exactly, all of this; You sir, are brimming full of brand new ideas that should be seized, and brought into law! Wait a minute, this isn't a new idea, sorry bud, but now that I think of it, the Nazi's did it back in the '30's, and it was pink triangles... Oh well, I'm sure you'll come up with a better idea.

Seems to me I started a thread on how Obozo has conveniently changed his life long position on gay marriage. And a few of the Gays have turned this into hate, go elsewhere, and dolphin nonsense. And, something about Mr. Hi-Point, which gun was the gay from KY threatening me with?

News Flash! Obama is using the Gay and Lesbian community. He’d rather have you humping and marrying a tree stump than an individual of the same sex, but your few votes are vote’s never-the-less, in a race he’s losing. He would sell his sole for four more years of Transformation. Contrary to what you may have heard on MSNBC he did not evolve, his was politicking. Not to mention Obama as a Muslim believes in creation not evolution.

It isn't a threat to make known that a person will defend their constitution, and the words and rights therein, with their life, and their chosen firearms, against transgressors, abusers, tyrants, and those who would willing trample upon it, much like yourself. So, no, this armed "gay from Ky" isn't threatening you, babe~ Besides, ya know I love ya hun~ <3

What disgusts me the most about bed wetting insipid posts like this is that there are still people who are dumb enough to post them. They should have been found dead under kitchen sinks long ago if not for those damned childproof lids on the DRANO.

Simply standing in opposition to gay marriage doesn't mean you hate anyone. It doesn't mean they're an enemy, or in anyway less deserving of any rights. SHOW ME where in the f^%$king world let alone the US Constitution where ANY sort of marriage is a RIGHT. Sooner or later there will be a court case where a church gets sued for not allowing a gay marriage. OH WAIT, such cases have already been brought up, a google search turned up...

http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=91486340

So now gay "rights" trump 1st Amendment rights. What about our rights as individuals not to know what persuasion people are in? If I own a business that caters to "intolerant black baptists", would I be sued for refusing to hire the flaming white guy who came to the interview wearing a pink tutu?

So now in 10 years I suppose I'm still going to be intlerant and filled with hate for not approving the NAMBLA agenda to reduce the age of consent right? Some of you pervs make me sick. Why can't you just keep it to yourself, **** have a coke and a smile?

Where's the tolerance for the majority of us?

You whine, and moan that my rights trump your Free speech rights, yet assert that I should have been found dead under a kitchen sink, simply for posting my opinions, and distaste for the transgressors of my freedom. Sounds to me like the pot calling the kettle black, and a nice fat case of trololololololing.

You don't have a constitutional right to not know what my, or anyones sexuality is, because frankly, the first amendment guarantee our right to be as flamboyant, and as open as we darn well please, including peaceably assembling in a group of people, such things like LGBT pride events/parades (Not speaking in regards to the OCDO forums, that is). If you don't want to know, see, or hear it, you can turn off your computer, turn off your T.V., and lock yourself in your closet. The 1st amendment is a Bi&*$, isn't it?

If you discriminate against anyone concerning lifestyle, sexuality, race, gender, religion, age, or disability, you will naturally open yourself to being subject to a civil lawsuit, or being sued, for such, or possibly for deprivation of rights if your state has "right to work" laws on the books. Just sayin' dawg.

Also, the majority never needs toleration from minority groups, because being a majority exempts them from hate, deprivation of rights, discrimination, etc.

Aww, I think of anyone on this forum, I love you the most, PFW, your so cute when you act all tough, mean, and bad and stuff~ <3

 

[RockyMtnScotsman]

explains why he's always bowing to foreign leaders: he's taking it up the pooper an likes it