Suicide at West Coast Armory in Bellevue?

[amlevin]

The only one responsible for suicide is the person that performs the act - nobody else.

True. But if you're an Anti-Gun Liberal with an atrophied brain, "It's the gun's fault".

 

[Dave_pro2a]

Whole thread would have been avoided if West Coast Armory had issued a statement instead of denials.

 

[Grapeshot]

True. But if you're an Anti-Gun Liberal with an atrophied brain, "It's the gun's fault".

:arrow: Driving into or off of a bridge is the [strike]gun's[/strike] car's fault.......got it.

 

[wm2957]

Bothell location?

We do a 2nd Sunday of the month coffee in Bothel also. You guys are welcome to that one too.

Where do you guys meet in Bothell? That one is super close to me.

 

[wm2957]

Denials

Whole thread would have been avoided if West Coast Armory had issued a statement instead of denials.

It seems to me that they may have been more worried about business than about the people who had to deal with what happened. I will probably go see those two instructors at some point and make sure they are OK. I am still in damage control on the homefront though and will ensure the kids are through the trauma first beore I worry about that.

 

[wm2957]

Ditto

The name I just stole from elsewhere on the web.

Thanks for the kind words. It's like the lottery you never want to win. You get a mild case of PTSD, and run the incident over in your head. You get angry at the person for including you in their desperate act. You're thankfull they didn't do anything more desperate, like shoot at you. You try and remember snippets of the person, and wonder why you couldn't pick up on their peril. You wonder if a kind word or reaching out could have helped. Then, you go home, hug your kids and go on with your life, with a greater reverence for life in general.

Take care of your children. It should get better with time.

I did the same thing. All part of the M.O. of witnessing something like that I guess. I too thought of how I could have possibly done something to change what happened and imagined if it had gone differently. Fortunately, I am in the "hug your kids and go on with your life" part.

 

[wm2957]

Thank you

I like the turn this thread has taken. The questions have been answered and the hand of understanding and brotherhood has been extended. It is good to meet face to face - bonds are created and understanding grows in a way that it cannot otherwise. Have found that there are more similarities in people of our cloth that differences.

Adversity IMO teaches adaptability, resilience. Never to old to learn and benefit from the perspective of others.

Not lecturing, just musing. Wish I had the wherewithal to travel more and meet some of you first hand. You don't always have to wear another's moccasins, it can be enough to stand beside them.

Salute.

Thank you for being a voice of reason on this site. Even when some were trending toward being overly sarcastic or nasty, you maintained a steady hand on the site rudder to keep it on course. There were others as well that did similarly, like Dave_pro, so thanks to all of you that although keeping a healthy level of skepticism, held out for proof before deciding to hand out your death blow to the newbies.

 

[slapmonkay]

Where do you guys meet in Bothell? That one is super close to me.

Its held at 'The Lyons Den' on the First Saturday of the month at 10AM.

 

[sudden valley gunner]

Join Date: Feb 2013 + Posts: 23 + Lurking: 5 Years = newbie.

Good call. I just looked at number of posts, still a newbie in my opinion because of the lack of participation.

Although my replies may have been, and probably were, abrasive, I think the OP's were here for more than informing a forum about am tragic event. I think they were looking for some type of support group.
A public forum is not for getting sympathy. That is why there are support groups.

So what? I don't care if that was his reason, I feel honored he thought he could share this tragic occurrence with us and would feel more than happy to offer support.

I guess we should stop showing up to picnics that are held at places where police had harassed OC'ers you know not give support.

 

[Trigger Dr]

Well SVG, I guess that is why we have the ability to think what ever we want and not be mandated to agree with you.

 

[sudden valley gunner]

Well SVG, I guess that is why we have the ability to think what ever we want and not be mandated to agree with you.

Absolutely, and that works vice versa.

Some of us would rather have compassion and not be so abrasive, especially when someone just went through a tragic event.....

 

[DamonK]

Absolutely, and that works vice versa.

Some of us would rather have compassion and not be so abrasive, especially when someone just went through a tragic event.....

Yup +1

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[wm2957]

NO

Well SVG, I guess that is why we have the ability to think what ever we want and not be mandated to agree with you.

I refuse to be the part of the world that choses to treat people with no heart. I am an NRA member and 2nd Amendment supporter, but I am also a Christian. I will NEVER step all over someones feelings on this site because they try to express something they are going through. This SHOULD be a support group site as well as a forum to discuss gun issues. Why can't it be both?

 

[Grapeshot]

I refuse to be the part of the world that choses to treat people with no heart. I am an NRA member and 2nd Amendment supporter, but I am also a Christian. I will NEVER step all over someones feelings on this site because they try to express something they are going through. This SHOULD be a support group site as well as a forum to discuss gun issues. Why can't it be both?

It is both as it relates to RKBA.

 

[SFCRetired]

I refuse to be the part of the world that choses to treat people with no heart. I am an NRA member and 2nd Amendment supporter, but I am also a Christian. I will NEVER step all over someones feelings on this site because they try to express something they are going through. This SHOULD be a support group site as well as a forum to discuss gun issues. Why can't it be both?

Thank you. You said what I was thinking, but far better than I could.

 

[sudden valley gunner]

I refuse to be the part of the world that choses to treat people with no heart. I am an NRA member and 2nd Amendment supporter, but I am also a Christian. I will NEVER step all over someones feelings on this site because they try to express something they are going through. This SHOULD be a support group site as well as a forum to discuss gun issues. Why can't it be both?

Well said. Sadly the poster you responded to was a judge...........who has a self proclaimed love for law enforcement......wonder if that tinted the cases a bit in favor of ......

I am not a fan of NRA and not a Christian, yet feel bad you had to go through that. You have my sympathies and if need to talk PM me.

 

[()pen(arry]

Good Lord. Moving to WA this summer, but hadn't read this sub-forum in a while. Saw this thread at 12 pages, just a little while ago, and as I started reading through, I had to force myself not to skip to the end. What a ride! We don't having anything remotely interesting in the TX sub-forum, let alone the TV melodrama that unfolded here. It's like an episode of "Castle"...

 

[slapmonkay]

Good Lord. Moving to WA this summer, but hadn't read this sub-forum in a while. Saw this thread at 12 pages, just a little while ago, and as I started reading through, I had to force myself not to skip to the end. What a ride! We don't having anything remotely interesting in the TX sub-forum, let alone the TV melodrama that unfolded here. It's like an episode of "Castle"...

We are pretty active here in WA sub-forum. :lol:

 

[wm2957]

lol

Good Lord. Moving to WA this summer, but hadn't read this sub-forum in a while. Saw this thread at 12 pages, just a little while ago, and as I started reading through, I had to force myself not to skip to the end. What a ride! We don't having anything remotely interesting in the TX sub-forum, let alone the TV melodrama that unfolded here. It's like an episode of "Castle"...

lol.....Glad we could entertain you Seriously though, when you have a guy do something like that at the 2nd largest indoor shooting range in the United States, you would think it would be ALL over the media. We saw a phenomenon here where there was not a peep afterward. Makes you wonder what other stories the media sits on. Hope your move goes well. Take care!

 

[Trigger Dr]

...wonder if that tinted the cases a bit in favor of ......

OK, here is what has given the tint.
After 2 tours in Viet Nam as a corpsman with the USMC, I had many close friends that I watched die, some of them as I was trying to save their life.
In civilian life as a leo, I responded to numerous fatal accidents and a few suicides. In the last 2 years I have lost both parents, two sisters, my father in law,and now my wife's brother is on the edge with liver cancer.
Do I care about these tragedies? yes I do care. But I, do not verbalize the sorrow. I am very jaded toward sympathizing. If you want sympathy, I am not the one to come to. If you are looking for empathy, I will sometimes provide that but only with family and very close friends. This is my avenue of avoidance.
I speak my mind and if you do not like it, tough twinkies.