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"stupid" oc move in missouri!!!!

mspgunner

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We will reap what we sow

This is beyond belief. If you want OC rights just don't be this "insensitive" right now!

The legislature is the way to get OC freedom, doing this stuff RIGHT NOW only hurts not helps.
Pick anywhere legal besides a theater showing the Batman movie to OC!

Should you limit your rights? You sure arn't helping to get OC rights by doing the following! "OC at Springfield theater".

http://www.news-leader.com/article/...sey=tab|topnews|text|FRONTPAGE&nclick_check=1
 

kcgunfan

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This is beyond belief. If you want OC rights just don't be this "insensitive" right now!

The legislature is the way to get OC freedom, doing this stuff RIGHT NOW only hurts not helps.
Pick anywhere legal besides a theater showing the Batman movie to OC!

Should you limit your rights? You sure arn't helping to get OC rights by doing the following! "OC at Springfield theater".

http://www.news-leader.com/article/...sey=tab|topnews|text|FRONTPAGE&nclick_check=1

Where does it say this gentleman was openly carrying? I just don't see it in the article. He was arrested for not having a permit. Of course, there are no permits in MO, so who knows what he was actually arrested for. But, open carrying would have not been a crime in MO, assuming he otherwise could possess the weapon.
 

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Where does it say this gentleman was openly carrying? I just don't see it in the article. He was arrested for not having a permit. Of course, there are no permits in MO, so who knows what he was actually arrested for. But, open carrying would have not been a crime in MO, assuming he otherwise could possess the weapon.

The indication is CCW and CCW without a permit.

Now begs the question, how was it noticed since it is indeed indicated they were leaving about one hour into the movie. I am also some what curious about them having to be quieted down etc.

Sounds like a couple of really stupid persons trying to disrupt others at the movies and were armed without the understanding that concealed is indeed concealed.

I also doubt we will ever get anywhere near the whole story out of it either.
 

Redbaron007

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Where does it say this gentleman was openly carrying? I just don't see it in the article. He was arrested for not having a permit. Of course, there are no permits in MO, so who knows what he was actually arrested for. But, open carrying would have not been a crime in MO, assuming he otherwise could possess the weapon.


From what I have heard, which isn't confirmed as fact, yet; the individual displayed a concealed firearm, this is potentially how it was discovered...the argument now is, was he OCing and it got covered up then re-displayed as OC? I'm not sure. Springfield doesn't prohibit OCing, however, after the recent events (Ozark/Springfield), there are some rumblings. :cry:
 

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Springfield doesn't prohibit OCing, however, after the recent events (Ozark/Springfield), there are some rumblings. :cry:

Yes, there are a lot of rumblings.

The other part of the coin remains what if this Ozark guy was a regular OC guy and was only noticed BECAUSE of recent events. I know when I have OC'ed on many occasions, a lot of folks never even seem to notice at all, perhaps the recent issue just made more folks subconciously situationally aware aka they noticed.

The problem that exist, the guy's timing, nothing more. Across several gun forums this topic exist and a boat load of gun owners are saying the same thing, it was stupid etc.

It may indeed be a right, but looking at the words folks type across the web, there is not much support for it at all.
 

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'Timing', the bane of the 'OC movement' and the crutch of the timid.

It appears that 'timing' is everything and apparently the 'only thing' to some, we will have our work cut out for us next session.
 

WalkingWolf

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Yes, there are a lot of rumblings.

The other part of the coin remains what if this Ozark guy was a regular OC guy and was only noticed BECAUSE of recent events. I know when I have OC'ed on many occasions, a lot of folks never even seem to notice at all, perhaps the recent issue just made more folks subconciously situationally aware aka they noticed.

The problem that exist, the guy's timing, nothing more. Across several gun forums this topic exist and a boat load of gun owners are saying the same thing, it was stupid etc.

It may indeed be a right, but looking at the words folks type across the web, there is not much support for it at all.

You should go to Huffington Post, you could get almost everyone there to agree with you~~Sheeesh!
 

SylntSleepr

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Bravo

I am from Colorado, close to Aurora, actually I'm in Aurora as we speak, and to just add my two cents, i have my sidearm on my hip just as i always do, if i were to go see a movie tonight it wouldn't leave my side. my opinion is i wish more people would have carried that night and i cannot imagine anyone saying because of this that we all should just stop carrying, i understand wanting to tread lightly but really no way, be respectful and carry as you always do.

Although I am fairly new to OC, I salute you, Sir, as you exemplify the meaning of this movement altogether. Tucking our tails in light of an unfortunate event does not prove anything whether it be remorse, respect, or sorrow for the fallen. What happened should prompt citizens to be more apt to OC. It has definitely played a role in my decision to OC in my town and surrounding counties, where not prohibited. Oh what a feeling!
 

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You should go to Huffington Post, you could get almost everyone there to agree with you~~Sheeesh!

CLUE <===== and you should print it out and put it into your pocket so as you will actually have one.

If you can't figure out the difference in an opinion and an observation of opinions being expressed, I am unable to help you, but would suggest you expore outside of OCDO and take a close look at various discussion groups if you have any intent what so ever of trying to develop an accurate feel for public opinion and the impact it is to have upon legislative persons.
 

WalkingWolf

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CLUE <===== and you should print it out and put it into your pocket so as you will actually have one.

If you can't figure out the difference in an opinion and an observation of opinions being expressed, I am unable to help you, but would suggest you expore outside of OCDO and take a close look at various discussion groups if you have any intent what so ever of trying to develop an accurate feel for public opinion and the impact it is to have upon legislative persons.

So what you are saying that your opinion is the only one that counts, even though that opinion follows the same lines as anti gun liberals. I do participate in other discussion groups, that is why I pointed out that your opinions are the opinions of anti gun liberals.
 

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'Timing', the bane of the 'OC movement' and the crutch of the timid.

It appears that 'timing' is everything and apparently the 'only thing' to some, we will have our work cut out for us next session.

Show me a legislator that is not timid when it comes to gun rights in Missouri specificly OC rights I will tell you their names without ever seeing their faces... not that I am so slick, shoot I am old, there are just so very very few, one does not need even one full hand to count them on sir, in fact, one might be accused of being a libtard if they were to demonstrate it as they would be giving the universal "peace" sign of the hippies from the 60's and 70's.
 

WalkingWolf

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Show me a legislator that is not timid when it comes to gun rights in Missouri specificly OC rights I will tell you their names without ever seeing their faces... not that I am so slick, shoot I am old, there are just so very very few, one does not need even one full hand to count them on sir, in fact, one might be accused of being a libtard if they were to demonstrate it as they would be giving the universal "peace" sign of the hippies from the 60's and 70's.

I really do not give a rat's behind if a legislator is timid. They work for us remember, they are supposed to kiss our arse. It is this mamby pamby sucking up to those who should be sucking up to us that has caused our problems. I for one am sick of it, the man was legal, the sheriff even stated he was legal. Being wimps is why we are oppressed as we are.

Vote the timid POS out of office!
 

Redbaron007

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I really do not give a rat's behind if a legislator is timid. They work for us remember, they are supposed to kiss our arse. It is this mamby pamby sucking up to those who should be sucking up to us that has caused our problems. I for one am sick of it, the man was legal, the sheriff even stated he was legal. Being wimps is why we are oppressed as we are.

Vote the timid POS out of office!


You do understand everyone doesn't vote all the legislators into office. They have districts that vote them in, at least here in MO; could tell you about North Carolina.

So if you have a legislator who is not representing you but is anti, how do I vote them out. :eek:

On the surface, your comment sounds great; even the part about him being legal; however, when you actually have to think about it, it's full of ????. Also, does NC have Open Carry, preemptive? If so, congrats. However, in MO, we don't...although we are trying to get that....thus the crux of the matter regarding these two at movie theaters. This is the political aspect of it. Like it or not, you HAVE to play politics in politics. So, with that said, trying to get the timid to belly up and pass preemptive here is MO has been a struggle. The media spotlight on these circumstances doesn't encourage these legislators to step up. Sorry if you can't comprehend this. :(
 

sleepwalker

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Legal and Stupid or Unsafe and Dead.

I said "NOT" illegal, but for goodness sake, THINK! You want OC freedom and he picks a theater right now? Holly smokes. I'm going to an OC event in an hour, but it's not at a THEATER!.
Common sense, we are having it a place where OC is common.

Ya' all aint gonna get your rights back if you are doing garbage like this for a first time right after a mass murder! Does this get you public opinion on our side? NO, this is just plain stupid!

USE YOU FRICKEN BRIANS!

YEP, YOU CAN BE "LEGAL" AND STUPID... THEN YOU CAN KISS YOUR HOPES FOR OC RIGHTS GOOD BYE HERE IN MISSOURI![


if it was up to me oh wait it is i choose Alive and Stupid verses Unarmed and Dead. A right not exercised is a right lost
 

Boba Fett

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I've been planning on OC'ing when I get a firearm for several months now. Just because the shooting happened doesn't mean I'm going to change my mind and go unarmed. sheesh. :eek:
 
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