Senate panel to vote on revamped conceal-carry bill

[RIVER RAT]

www.wiseye.org Senate bill 93 hearing on at 1:30

 

[technician]

www.wiseye.org Senate bill 93 hearing on at 1:30

Who is that woman sitting on the floor with her kids peeping over the table?

 

[Outdoorsman1]

I am at work and limited to online access only...no speakers.. no downloading to run video stream....:banghead:

So how is it going...???????????

Outdoorsman1

 

[technician]

I am at work and limited to online access only...no speakers.. no downloading to run video stream....:banghead:

So how is it going...???????????

Outdoorsman1

They are arguing property rights at the moment. They are sure making it a whole lot more complicated than it should be.

 

[Wolf1477]

And so it begins....flappin their gums about mandatory training and LEO access to permit records. More and more restrictions, where we're allowed to carry, carrying "Under the influence" would be a felony on the second offense. Erpenbach can KMA

 

[Outdoorsman1]

Yea... as stated earlier this vote is just the beguining....

And even it could take a while....

Outdoorsman1

 

[pachanga22]

Training mandates give false comfort. With a mandate people train to meet the mandate and that is it. When you leave it to the individual the will train to there level of need, which is proven to be mare than any false mandate.

 

[Captain Nemo]

948.605(2)
(2) Possession of firearm in school zone.

(specifically reads firearms)
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948.605(2)(b)2.
2. If the individual possessing the firearm is licensed to do so by a political subdivision of the state or bureau of alcohol, tobacco and firearms in which political subdivision the school zone is located, and the law of the political subdivision requires that, before an individual may obtain such a license, the law enforcement authorities of the political subdivision must verify that the individual is qualified under law to receive the license;

(could be a valid hunting license after completion of hunter's safety training certificate issued)
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948.605(2)(b)7.
7. That is unloaded and is possessed by an individual while traversing school grounds for the purpose of gaining access to public or private lands open to hunting, if the entry on school grounds is authorized by school authorities.


948.605(2)(b)8.
8. By a person who is legally hunting in a school forest if the school board has decided that hunting may be allowed in the school forest under s. 120.13 (38).


(Sort of a muddy distinction between "school grounds" and "school property". A school forest is likely school property but is it considered "school grounds" under the reach of this statute? Or is it neither?)

 

[Wolf1477]

Get 'im Galloway! The D's are coming out saying we have to have training for reciprocity. My PA LTCF didn't require training and I can carry in something like 13 states with it.

 

[Interceptor_Knight]

These proposed amendments are insane. Risser and Erpenbach are insane.

Any venue, or stadium at which public sporting events or public concerts
2are held or any amusement park, except if an event related to firearms is taking place
3and the weapon is being used at the event.
SB93-SSA1-SA2,3,44 15. Any place that is a state, county, or municipal park


Any church, synagogue, mosque, or other building, structure, or place
9primarily used for religious worship or another religious purpose.
SB93-SSA1-SA2,2,1210 9. A building or any portion of a building that is used for a domestic violence
11victim services program or by an organization that provides a safe haven for victims
12of domestic violence.
SB93-SSA1-SA2,2,1413 10. A place that is on the grounds of a University of Wisconsin institution or
14extension, a private college or university, or a technical college district.
SB93-SSA1-SA2,2,1615 11. Any premises for which a Class "B" or "Class B" license or permit has been
16issued under ch. 125.
SB93-SSA1-SA2,2,2017 12. Any building or part of a building that is used to provide child care services,
18except that, if the building is a residence and the owner is a licensee, any weapon
19must be unloaded and securely locked or encased during the hours in which children
20are present for the child care services.
SB93-SSA1-SA2,2,2221 13. Any building or part of a building that is used as a nonprofit organization
22as described in section 501 (c) of the Internal Revenue Code.

 

[pachanga22]

another list of prohibitions

 

[Trip20]

What a douche. (D) Erpenbach

"We don't want to force business owners to make a decision and choose a side." (talking about business owners posting versus the state prohibiting)

So instead he wants to FORCE them to choose a side with out leaving it up to the business owner.

 

[Captain Nemo]

The last few floor speakers I have been listening to are pushing for a training requirement. They so far have been Firearms training instructors. I wonder why they want mandated training?. (sarcasm)

 

[pachanga22]

Taking away personal freedom of the owners.

 

[Wolf1477]

Did you really expect anything different from them? They did the same damn thing with the smoking ban. Rather than leaving it up to the individual who owns/operates/lives off the proceeds of their business they took all choice away.

 

[technician]

What just happened?

 

[Trip20]

I think they removed all the prohibited buildings except the state capitol building

 

[technician]

Okay wasn't sure. It seemed almost like they just threw their hands up and said get rid of everything except this one point. Thought that was an odd concession...

 

[Wolf1477]

LoL glad I wasn't the only one who got lost in that one. My headphone volume sucks so I wasn't sure I heard it right.

N/M, I think they killed the amendment anyways.

 

[Trip20]

Now they didn't accept the amendment TO the amendment.... so they're back to the original amendment with all the prohibited places.

....that is..... if I'm following it correctly....