Ron Paul for president

[PistolPackingMomma]

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“I support Ron Paul because he defends the Constitution, loves America and understands what it means to be an American, including the right to live your life any way you want as long as you respect others,” said chiropractor Travis Romney, a second cousin once removed from Mitt Romney.

Read more: http://dailycaller.com/2012/03/05/r...five-members-of-romneys-family/#ixzz1oLfDAivw

 

[MamabearCali]

Here in va we have a choice of Ron Paul or Romney. I can't abide Romney, if I have to I will vote for him in the GE, but today I am a Ron Paul girl. Do I think he is the end all be all, no, but he is better than most. His foreign policy is idealistic, and his position on Iran scares me. However that aside he is constitutional and I like that. So of my two choices today he stinks the least.

 

[PrayingForWar]

Here in va we have a choice of Ron Paul or Romney. I can't abide Romney, if I have to I will vote for him in the GE, but today I am a Ron Paul girl. Do I think he is the end all be all, no, but he is better than most. His foreign policy is idealistic, and his position on Iran scares me. However that aside he is constitutional and I like that. So of my two choices today he stinks the least.

That was my main concern with Paul, though he did stress in the last debate that he would declare war and smoke Iran if they engaged in an act of war with us. It seems likely Pit Romney will be the nominee. That sucks big time, but in election day I'll treat myself to a nice dinner, a bottle of wine, vote, have a cigarette and take a LONG HOT SHOWER.

 

[DangerClose]

Paul supporters seize control of Clark County GOP party

http://www.lvrj.com/news/heller-uni...on-with-shots-at-berkley-obama-142194615.html

Supporters of GOP presidential candidate Ron Paul on Saturday effectively took control of the Clark County Republican Party by winning election to 14 executive board positions, or two-thirds of the ruling body.

http://www.dailypaul.com/219926/bre...l-delegates-sweep-the-clark-county-convention

Chairman Gibbs brought the meeting to order by asking for any Santorum supporters to please raise their hands. A handful of people raised their hands. Then he asked for Gingrich. He got 2 handfuls. When he asked for Romney, his people clustered near the front of the main room raised their hands with a great cheer.

When he asked for Ron Paul what looked like about 2/3rds of the crowd of over 2,600 delegates leaped to their feet as one and unleashed a thunderous ovation that lasted for 30 seconds. It was absolutely electrifying.

But the best part was filling the 14 seats on the Clark County Republican Party Executive Board. These are the people who set local policy. Each of the candidates was given only 30 seconds to speak.

Are you ready for this?

ALL 14 SEATS WERE WON BY RON PAUL DELEGATES! A total sweep!

What does this all mean? It means all the garbage the media has been feeding us is precisely that. It means the campaigns delegate strategy works. It means this party is JUST GETTING STARTED!

One of my favorite moments was when they were talking up Congressman Joe Heck and Senator Dean Heller and telling us how we "have to" support them.

Then Oath keeper, Mark Carducci, during his E-committee peach called both those traitors out for supporting NDAA.

 

[DangerClose]

"Time to leave Afghanistan."

"I think we need to reconsider the whole region. We need to understand that our being in the middle of countries like Afghanistan is probably counterproductive."

There goes crazy Uncle Ron again, talking about leaving Afghanistan and babbling about blowback....

Oh wait, it's Newt Gringrich! :uhoh:

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2012/03/11/gingrich_its_time_to_get_out_of_afghanistan.html

And it's some more Republican talking heads agreeing!

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2012/03/11/fox_news_sunday_panel_on_afghanistan.html

What a loony, kooky, crazy foreign policy!

 

[carsontech]

Old Ron is rubbin' off on others. Hopefully more libertarian qualities will rub off on the other candidates, as well.

 

[sudden valley gunner]

Or more likely public opinion agrees with Paul and so Newt is catering to that.

 

[PistolPackingMomma]

^Yeah, that.

 

[rscottie]

Discussion with Family Member

I got in to a discussion with my step father-in-law about who we wanted to be President and I said that I thought Ron Paul was the only one worth voting for.

While he agreed with me, he said that he was going to vote for whoever the Republican nominee was because any other vote was throwing your vote away and putting Obama back in for four more years.

I told him that his way of thinking was exactly why the US has been locked in a two party system for many years. The masses listen to the rhetoric from the media and think that it has to be this way.

I do not think I can legitimately go in and push the button for any of the frontrunners that are nothing more than big government candidates from the middle right. I seriously think it would make me ill as I would think of myself as a hypocrite.

I also do not understand how the Tea Party can back any of the frontrunners at this time.

We are going to be in for some rough times if Obama gets back in...

 

[sudden valley gunner]

I got in to a discussion with my step father-in-law about who we wanted to be President and I said that I thought Ron Paul was the only one worth voting for.

While he agreed with me, he said that he was going to vote for whoever the Republican nominee was because any other vote was throwing your vote away and putting Obama back in for four more years.

I told him that his way of thinking was exactly why the US has been locked in a two party system for many years. The masses listen to the rhetoric from the media and think that it has to be this way.

I do not think I can legitimately go in and push the button for any of the frontrunners that are nothing more than big government candidates from the middle right. I seriously think it would make me ill as I would think of myself as a hypocrite.

I also do not understand how the Tea Party can back any of the frontrunners at this time.

We are going to be in for some rough times if Obama gets back in...

I run into this same type of thinking all the time too. A little frustrating to know people like what Paul says want his version of liberty but are convinced he won't win and we need to get Obama out.

We have a history of our presidents being worse than the previous one, Romney, Gingrich or Santorum will in no doubt be worse than Obama, especially if they have a "neocon" congress and senate to help them with their agenda.

I wonder how much effect we can have on a more local level by electing liberty congress members, I think this is were liberty will brought back. I would like to see a youtube libertarian or classic liberals win with virtual no money over a wealthy person with special interest donors spending lots of money. Anyone think this could happen? Maybe by viral video?

 

[sudden valley gunner]

My experience at my local caucus was a little disappointing. For those who think there are major "differences" between the candidates I would like to point out that we had about 50% of the supporters for Paul, yet the Romney, Gingrich and Santorum supporters banded together to support them over Paul. And then to top it off the pre-selected PCO's were automatically delegates, and were tie breaking votes and I didn't see any of them that were Paul supporters.

One precinct was a 100% Paul, so they got a few Paul delegates and still had a Santorum delegate because the PCO wasn't a Paul supporter (registered member of the republican party).

 

[Jim675]

Or more likely public opinion agrees with Paul and so Newt is catering to that.

And that of course is a Good Thing[SUP]TM[/SUP]. That's precisely how politics are supposed to work. If Paul can move a few more elected lumps of grey matter to clear thinking then he (and we) win, regardless of who's sitting in office.

My respect for the man is immense. He's running a campaign that cost him a great deal in many ways and I believe he's doing it for pretty selfless reasons.

 

[sudden valley gunner]

And that of course is a Good Thing[SUP]TM[/SUP]. That's precisely how politics are supposed to work. If Paul can move a few more elected lumps of grey matter to clear thinking then he (and we) win, regardless of who's sitting in office.

My respect for the man is immense. He's running a campaign that cost him a great deal in many ways and I believe he's doing it for pretty selfless reasons.

Like when the "republican" take over of congress and senate running on "TEA party" values and public opinion of fiscal responsibility didn't really do anything different once in office? Boener?

 

[DangerClose]

Like when the "republican" take over of congress and senate running on "TEA party" values and public opinion of fiscal responsibility didn't really do anything different once in office? Boener?

I personally think the jury is still out on that. Some good people DID get elected during the last election. Just not enough. For instance, many of the Tea Party people DID try to stop the debt ceiling increase, but it wasn't enough. Of course, there are other "Tea Party" people who are part of the "new" Tea Party consisting of basically neocons and Bible thumpers.

It's hard to change things when even real conservative and small-government Republicans don't see the fakes right in front of them. Take Paul Ryan from WI, (please!), sure, he bashes Obama pretty good sometimes, but he's a fake. He supports TARP, the Patriot Act, NDAA, and his budget plan that Republicans passed last year adds five trillion to the debt the first 10 years and doesn't balance the budget until 2063!

This guy's a conservative!? Does anyone actually read the crap this guy stands for? Does anyone actually read his budget plan? Vote this big government, big spender out. Paul Ryan, you're a FAKE.

 

[PrayingForWar]

"I think we need to reconsider the whole region. We need to understand that our being in the middle of countries like Afghanistan is probably counterproductive."

There goes crazy Uncle Ron again, talking about leaving Afghanistan and babbling about blowback....

Oh wait, it's Newt Gringrich! :uhoh:

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2012/03/11/gingrich_its_time_to_get_out_of_afghanistan.html

And it's some more Republican talking heads agreeing!

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2012/03/11/fox_news_sunday_panel_on_afghanistan.html

What a loony, kooky, crazy foreign policy!

When I left AFG in 2009 after almost 2 years I thought it was pretty clear we were just spinning our wheels and wasting a lot of money there. Those rock farmers will never change, and it was silly of us to think were could make them change. We should have left the Northern Alliance in charge after they took Kandahar.

 

[sudden valley gunner]

I personally think the jury is still out on that. Some good people DID get elected during the last election. Just not enough. For instance, many of the Tea Party people DID try to stop the debt ceiling increase, but it wasn't enough. Of course, there are other "Tea Party" people who are part of the "new" Tea Party consisting of basically neocons and Bible thumpers.

It's hard to change things when even real conservative and small-government Republicans don't see the fakes right in front of them. Take Paul Ryan from WI, (please!), sure, he bashes Obama pretty good sometimes, but he's a fake. He supports TARP, the Patriot Act, NDAA, and his budget plan that Republicans passed last year adds five trillion to the debt the first 10 years and doesn't balance the budget until 2063!

This guy's a conservative!? Does anyone actually read the crap this guy stands for? Does anyone actually read his budget plan? Vote this big government, big spender out. Paul Ryan, you're a FAKE.

I think Rand Paul was a good person, maybe not as libertarian as his father or maybe playing his libertarian side low key.

Paul Ryan is a good example of what I was referring to he publicly makes a "display" of catering to "public opinion" but the reality is he is a fascist, as you pointed out .

 

[Xulld]

The thing is that there are people out there that will vote for Paul no matter what. Other republican candidates can only wish for such dedication. That's why he's the best nominee.

In any case, I don't buy the line that a vote for a third party (which Paul won't run as) is giving away an election. That's just spin perpetuated by the two parties and MSM to keep us inside the box that is the two party system. I used to believe that crap too but I'm going to vote firmly on principle from now on. If everyone would do that the country would be a lot better place.

I couldn't agree more.

 

[DangerClose]

Blatant corruption at GOP caucus in Georgia. On video!

It doesn't matter who your favorite candidate is, this is disgraceful. And it's all on video!

http://www.dailypaul.com/220875/athens-ga-convention-hijacked-by-gop

On Saturday March 10th, in Athens, GA, the democratic process was trampled on. The Athens-Clarke county GOP met to hold their annual county convention. The convention was held to nominate, approve, and pass slates of delegates to the party's district and state conventions. County chairman Matt Brewster and nominating committee chairman John Elliot blatantly broke the rules of their own party when they improperly, and without a majority, passed delegate slates and adjourned the convention amidst cries for "division", which is a call for a standing head count.

With that, many sitting precinct delegates were disenfranchised, and the convention was improperly closed. When warned that their conduct was jeopardizing the status of the delegates and alternates for the entire county, the chair Matt Brewster directed all questions to John Padgett, who is the Secretary of the Georgia State Republican Party. Unfortunately, Mr. Padgett refused to answer questions and fled the scene along with the rest of the local GOP leadership.

Similar Problem in Pennsylvania

My county's GOP is supposed to hold an endorsement convention in which all the county committeepeople (400 some) decide whom to endorse, if anyone. This year, they did not hold a convention, and, in direct violation of the party bylaws, the Excecutive Committee (the top 20 or so party hacks) voted in private and then announced to all the committee people the endorsed candidates, including those running for delegate. As you might expect, none of the Ron Paul delegate candidates were endorsed. The word is that they are all Romney backers. Talk about being disenfranchised.

 

[Beretta92FSLady]

The Republican line-up is in real dire straights. I thought Romney was going to take it but it appears that Santorum might squeak through.

Paul is under the radar, the media just doesn't talk about him much. Paul should run a media circuit and get to talking more, get his face on the televisions of America.

 

[DangerClose]

Largest MO Caucus Adjourns WITHOUT Conducting Business – No Delegates Selected

http://www.examiner.com/conservativ...out-conducting-business-no-delegates-selected

The Caucus meeting was NEVER brought to order.

Standing rules established by the Central Committee included the prohibition of cameras, video or sound recording. This did not sit well with the caucus goers.

One particular individual protested the demand to put away his camera. Central Committee Chairman, Eugene Dokes refused to gavel the meeting to order until the camera was put away.

Caucusgoers sided, quite vocally, with the cameraman! And at that moment Stokes lost control of the caucus! Rather than address the question, perhaps calling the meeting to order and entertaining a motion and a vote on the subject, Dokes dug in his heels. Police were called. Threats of eviction and arrest were made.

http://www.dailypaul.com/221117/missouri-caucuses-saturday-march-17

At this point, the gathering of about 700 people who have been in this high school gym began chanting "Transparency". This was not just RP supporters. The Romney captains were locally and visually encouraging their people to stand and respond.

The police approached the man, he stood his ground. There was maybe 4 or 5 police officers there. They didn't want anything to do with this. The GOP Chair sat down. Now we're waiting on police backup. More chants, "remove the Chair", etc.

About 30 minutes go by and now local and State Highway Patrol begin filling into the gym. They take stands of 2 each in front of each set of bleachers. By now the video recorder has been taken down, but the man remains.

The GOP Chair takes the podium and asks for nominations for caucus chairman. About 6 people rise to make nominations. The GOP Chair recognises a woman, she makes her nomination, the Chair asks for a second, identifies a man next to her and says we have a second. All those in favor "aye" a murmor of ayes. All those opposed "nay" a loud voice of nays goes up. The GOP Chair says the used have it, here is your caucus chairman.

The Caucus Chairman then announces a motion to adjourn. Those in favor, none heard. Those opposed, a roar of "no's". The ayes have it, meeting adjourned. St Charles County will have no delegate representation to the district caucus.

Same thing happened at my caucus but on a much smaller scale....the police approached us and told us to turn off our phones which I wish now i would have just recorded the entire caucus....wouldn't look good to arrest and haul off an 62 year old woman for videotaping a caucus. I truly believe that the GOP was armed and ready to stop any Ron Paul supporters from becoming delegates even to the point of fraud, violating Roberts Rules and a police state.

I was there. The description above was 100% accurate. After being told to leave the school or be arrested for trespassing, we went out into the school yard, and attempted to have a rump meeting (if you can get a quorum of the original people, you can re-open the caucus.) They ARRESTED the person we were trying to elect as chairman.

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Elsewhere in Missouri...

Over 75 people signed up to be a del (including me) but the ones who were chosen it was done behind closed doors. I was under the assumption that I was going to vote who gets to be a del, not a list of ppl chosen on who's been most active within the party. This was my first caucus ever attending and it seemed like the GOP didn't want newcomers any say on the process.