Presidential Election

[MAC702]

As relevant as you, and myself, wish this poll to be, it isn't. If this is reflective of the political demographic of America then Paul ought to be much further ahead; shouldn't he?...

I never claimed, nor should it have been implied, that I think this poll was indicative of Ron Paul's support versus the support of the other candidates.

My claim was that Ron Paul's support is greater as a Republican than it would be if he were not. This claim is independent.

 

[Beretta92FSLady]

I never claimed, nor should it have been implied, that I think this poll was indicative of Ron Paul's support versus the support of the other candidates.

My claim was that Ron Paul's support is greater as a Republican than it would be if he were not. This claim is independent.

We will never know since Paul is not running third party; I agree with you.

 

[VW_Factor]

The reality is, a vote for Paul is a vote for Obama.

With a crap attitude like that, yes.

 

[09jisaac]

With a crap attitude like that, yes.

You'll have to forgive him, he probably gets all of his information from big media. Every time I watch FOX, CNN, yahoo news no one acts like Paul has a chance. Then I look at where they're getting their information at and Paul is just a couple of points from the leader. If you can be (usually) within a percent from the top when everyone is saying you don't have a chance then you can be the top if people would give you a chance. My father is like that he is the only one in my extended family going to vote for anyone other than Paul (Santorum) because he doesn't think paul has a chance.

 

[VW_Factor]

You'll have to forgive him, he probably gets all of his information from big media. Every time I watch FOX, CNN, yahoo news no one acts like Paul has a chance. Then I look at where they're getting their information at and Paul is just a couple of points from the leader. If you can be (usually) within a percent from the top when everyone is saying you don't have a chance then you can be the top if people would give you a chance. My father is like that he is the only one in my extended family going to vote for anyone other than Paul (Santorum) because he doesn't think paul has a chance.

Thats too bad. Santorum is such a fake slime ball. :banghead:

 

[Beretta92FSLady]

Thats too bad. Santorum is such a fake slime ball. :banghead:

+1. I am happy to share this moment with you.

 

[PrayingForWar]

Thats too bad. Santorum is such a fake slime ball. :banghead:

No, he's a REAL slimeball. Unfortunately so are Romney and Gingrich too.

In spite of that fact I would prefer to eat their runny slime trails than watch the entire country slip into the trickle up poverty of western fascism if the moonbat messiah gets re-elected.

I'm thankful that Ron Paul has gotten as much attention as he has, and managed to tamp down the tin foil hat crowd that last time around completely marginalized him. I like how Dennis Miller put it, and I'm paraphrasing "I like %90 of what RP stands for, if he'd just come out and say he'd smoke Iran if he needed too, I'd be behind him all the way". That reflected my sentiments all along.

 

[09jisaac]

Thats too bad. Santorum is such a fake slime ball. :banghead:

My opinion too. He is just following the flavor of the month. Whatever the republicans are pushing he is following.

 

[PrayingForWar]

My opinion too. He is just following the flavor of the month. Whatever the republicans are pushing he is following.

HUH? The republican establishment has shunned all of the social moralism Santorum has stood by, and it was the moonbat media who brought it up not the Santorum campaign.

If anyone is more upset by ANYTHING Santorum has said, and is still comfortable with ANYTHING the moonbat messiah has said they're either:

A) Huffing paint, most likely silver rustoleum...

B) Parasites who manage the population of the democrat dependent population...

C) Idiot students with zero independent thought

D) Bed wetters who just want to be accepted into trendy social cliques and have no critical thinking skills.

 

[since9]

HUH? The republican establishment has shunned all of the social moralism Santorum has stood by...

No we haven't. Don't know where you're getting your info from, but it's not from us Republicans! Or the Republican Party. Here's the latest platform on Party Values.

I'm working (volunteering) for them, and can tell you from the inside out they're as hot over Obama's attack against religious freedom and his legislated abortion mandates as Rick or anyone.

 

[Tawnos]

No we haven't. Don't know where you're getting your info from, but it's not from us Republicans! Or the Republican Party. Here's the latest platform on Party Values.

I'm working (volunteering) for them, and can tell you from the inside out they're as hot over Obama's attack against religious freedom and his legislated abortion mandates as Rick or anyone.

Could you describe the attack against religious freedom and legislated abortion mandates?

 

[HandyHamlet]

Here's the latest platform on Party Values.

Thanks for the laugh. Almost peed myself. But then I realized you might be shilling for a different/uber secret Replicant Party. On that has heard of the Constitution? Where was your party again when Indefinite Detention passed on New Years Eve?

 

[Beretta92FSLady]

I seriously want to know what is driving Republican's to push this issue:

"Rick Santorum injected it into the presidential race by indicating that Griswold should be overturned so that states could ban contraception altogether. And the Senate just voted down a Republican effort to allow employers and health insurance companies to refuse coverage for contraceptives if they had moral or religious objections."

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/03/02/opinion/contraception-war-goes-on.html?hp

What I would like to know: is Republican's attempting to throw this election by bringing up contraception in this way, during an election year?

It seems that Republicans have mistakingly associated taking 'the pill' with abortion. This is a bad move, IMO--they are clouding what is a legitimate issue to discuss in this Country, which is abortion.

I think that the current Republican line-up it not politically in-tune in a number of areas, and this is one example. Of course, you could chalk it up to bias, since I am Liberal in many respects. But I am genuinely wondering why Republicans would pick this fight, particularly during an election year; also, this will have an affect on Independent voters, IMO--maybe Republicans are banking on that sort of assertion being wrong I suppose.

 

[DangerClose]

What I would like to know: is Republican's attempting to throw this election by bringing up contraception in this way, during an election year?

Obama brought it up.

Republicans are kinda/sorta stressing the separation of church and state stuff and the "why should I have to pay for your crap?" stuff, but they could be doing a better job on those things.

Someone said how Obama bringing up this issue is genius because it puts a wedge between the church and other Republicans, etc. I forget the specifics of how they said it, but they ended by saying whatever campaign person in Obama's stable thought it up is brilliant and dangerous.

 

[Tawnos]

Obama brought it up.

Republicans are kinda/sorta stressing the separation of church and state stuff and the "why should I have to pay for your crap?" stuff, but they could be doing a better job on those things.

By stressing you mean towards the breaking point, right? The law is being mandated regardless of church affiliation. That is the utmost separation of church and state. It appears a number of churches want special exemptions from the law by the state. I think this article pretty well summated the situation.

 

[Beretta92FSLady]

By stressing you mean towards the breaking point, right? The law is being mandated regardless of church affiliation. That is the utmost separation of church and state. It appears a number of churches want special exemptions from the law by the state. I think this article pretty well summated the situation.

Who would have thought the religious right were going to push for a theocratic United States; arguing that a secular state is not what the Founding Fathers had envisioned.

I hope the Right push this agenda hard; they had a fighting chance six months ago, and are squandering it. President Obama is not even close to a perfect President (none will ever exist), but Santorum?...Romney?...give me a break people.

Better luck in 2016.