Police mistakenly shoot 911 caller during manhunt

[sudden valley gunner]

"damn sure" is not the legal standard. Reasonableness is.

Reasonableness...I don't think its that subjective at all.

Even terry says it has to be reasonable articulable suspicion for a stop based on facts not hunches....for use of force it shall be more stricter.

Terry was a horrible watering down of the original PC.

Our state legislature recognizes that cops are supposed to be even more restricted in their use of force than the non costumed folk...yet we know this isn't the reality of the parasites in government.

 

[OC for ME]

Reasonableness...I don't think its that subjective at all.

Even terry says it has to be reasonable articulable suspicion for a stop based on facts not hunches....for use of force it shall be more stricter....

That articulation always occurs after the rights violation has occurred. It is unfortunate that cops, all of them, need a judge from time to time to remind them that they violated a citizen's rights. It is unfortunate that a cop will not recognize his acts as a rights violation unless a judge helps him.

Those shooters will not be held to account for their attempted homicide. In suspect they will be held as example of "good police work" and how they exhibited restraint in the face of adversity and confusion...I'm mean come-on, they didn't kill anybody did they.

 

[Dave_pro2a]

A man who called 911 to report that he had seen a shooting suspect was mistakenly shot by responding law enforcement officers

No, he was shot on purpose.

It was not a mistake, at the very least it was negligence.

 

[OC for ME]

50 something gray haired dude: close enough...Check. White Buick: close enough...Check. We think he is getting a gun, don't actually see one though: close enough...Check. Walking away towards the woods, fleeing?: close enough...Check.

See no crimes committed.

Washington is not that far away from California and cops in California can kill citizens, anytime they please, with their cruiser, without any fear of criminal sanctions...look it up.

The unfortunate outcome from this egregiously unacceptable incident is that many local citizens will not likely connect the dots between those cops' conduct and possible violations of the law. Though, this may be nothing but a civil matter...are cops exempt from shooting folks without anything more that unsubstantiated hunches in the Great State of Washington?

...SWAT...who wudda thunk it...

 

[Dave_pro2a]

Regarding calling it a "MISTAKE" rather than NEGLIGENCE.

Cops love that kind of 1984 double speak. They love control and propaganda, and know that influencing the language used by media can help control the tenor of future debates about a subject/incident. it also influences future jurists and/or voters.

Here's another great example. In the eyes of a cop, the new Google and Apple phone encryption isn't a feature.... it's a BUG to squash.

https://www.yahoo.com/tech/well-encrypted-phones-on-vulnerable-cellular-networks-102917792869.html

The police are upset about Apple and Google’s latest smartphone advances.

The problem is the encryption in both the iOS 8 and Android Lollipop operating systems. It is turned on by default, and there is no master key that Apple or Google can give to investigators, even if they have a warrant.

What Apple and Google tout as a feature, police see as a bug

Privacy, private property, SFW to a cop.

 

[sudden valley gunner]

Regarding calling it a "MISTAKE" rather than NEGLIGENCE.

Cops love that kind of 1984 double speak. They love control and propaganda, and know that influencing the language used by media can help control the tenor of future debates about a subject/incident. it also influences future jurists and/or voters.

Here's another great example. In the eyes of a cop, the new Google and Apple phone encryption isn't a feature.... it's a BUG to squash.

https://www.yahoo.com/tech/well-encrypted-phones-on-vulnerable-cellular-networks-102917792869.html


Privacy, private property, SFW to a cop.

Oh yea one cop on this forum does that all the time, wreck a baby's face with a grenade was just a mistake.....