OT - legal to kill mountain lion?

[Aaron1124]

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MrGray wrote:

Aaron1124 wrote:

I have a fence. My fence, along with my dogs, keeps predators out. I might live in just of a highly wildlife populated area as you do. I see wildlife come and go on a daily basis.

You say you have a fence, and between your fence and your dogs, it keeps the predators out. How tall is this fence? Does it allow deer, bear, bobcats, elk, coyotes, and other wildlife in, or does it keep them out? Does it keep cougars out, or are there just no cougars present to come in? Is your fence solution workable in a closed canopy forest? How do you keep the cougars from simply jumping OVER the fence?

It's a 6' fence with a foot of chicken wire on top, making it 7' total. I don't know "how" it keeps cougars out. All I said is that I've never had a cougar on my property, but I've seen cougars pass my property. Not that often, but I've seen a cougar on two occasions this year alone not further than 50 feet from my property. I've never had an issue. I've lived here for 4 years. Cougars have never jumped my fence. I'm not doing anything special to stop them from doing so. They simply haven't. Why would it allow other animals in, and but not cougars? It isn't strictly a "Cougar repellent" fence... it's a fence I built to primarily keep my property safe from being torn apart by animals who might get curious and become a nuisance. So far, it's done the job.

 

[sudden valley gunner]

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...cougar meet is better than pork...very tasty

 

[Hammer]

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Kildars wrote:

Hammer wrote:

Ahh, I hear the sage voice of zero experience speaking.
Thaks for sharing your "wisdom"

Zero experience? You know nothing about me. If you feel prevention is a bad way to go well, idk what to say.

I know more about you than I'd care too already.
you start on me with the
Kildars wrote:

Oh please, here we go with the "think of the children" argument.

Then pretend it was me that started talking trash. You know nothing of me. So to ASSume that I used a "think of the children" lib-tard ploy is assinine.
To imply that prevention wasn't already the first line of defense was also an ASSumption you are wildly incorrect about.
Your suggestions to avoid use of lethal force to defend against an animal are about as logical if applied to humans.
If someone robbed you, would you just give up your possessions and call the cops? Then would you ask that a captured robber be "relocated" so you wouldn't be robbed again?
There's a clear disconnect in the process of logic, and it isn't lost on the majority here.
I'd love it if all the animal rights activists would wear a t-shirt that said "If I am attacked, don't help me. I have a plan"
Maybe a phone # left somewhere there might not be a bite mark would help in the notification of next-of-kin.

 

[Aaron1124]

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Not really sure what anyone has against a wildlife advocate. Guys like Dave Salmoni are a blessing to wildlife.

 

[Hammer]

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Hunters were and are the first wildlife advocates long before Dave Salmoni breathed fresh air.

 

[Aaron1124]

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Hammer wrote:

Hunters were and are the first wildlife advocates long before Dave Salmoni breathed fresh air.

...What exactly is your point? I never said hunters aren't wildlife advocates.

 

[Bader]

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Dave Salmoni could take a dump, and crap out more information on wildlife than anyone here could collectively know.

 

[Hammer]

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Aaron1124 wrote:

Hammer wrote:

Hunters were and are the first wildlife advocates long before Dave Salmoni breathed fresh air.

...What exactly is your point? I never said hunters aren't wildlife advocates.

My point is that hunters are a blessing to wildlife too. A point apparently lost on you.

 

[Aaron1124]

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Of course they are. I know a lot of hunters who have done a lot for conservation. I'm not sure why you're making those comments at the end of your statement

 

[SANDRAT]

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Aaron1124 wrote:

SANDRAT, actually you're incorrect about a dog standing less than a 50/50 chance against a cougar. I'm not a hunter myself, but many of my relatives and friends are.
I'm VERY familiar with LGDs and how effective they are against almost any predator. Dogs such as a Caucasian Ovtcharka, Dogo Argentino, Kangal, Anatolian Shepherd, and several other breeds are well known among the true experts at being able to fend off large predators such as cougars, wolves, coyotes, and other predators.

If you'd like, I can even cite several videos and documents that back up my claim.

Now, of course, if the life of a child is on the line, then of course I support using lethal force. I said my first method would be trapping and relocating. My uncle has 20 acres in Minnesota and yes, it's all fenced in. Maybe not everyone has the luxory or finances to build such a fence, but if appropriate measures want to be taken, then a person will take them.

Aaron,where in the hell do you propose relocating the animal?WDFW and the Forest Service just closed a trail in a remote area above Leavenworth last week because of Couger problems.They are also extemely damaging to big game herds.I think you have ignored my point in two previous posts that most problem Cougers are in poor health and wind up being put down.BTW,I'm not about to trade my Black Lab in on a pair of predator dogs,she does just fine solo on Coyotes and small Black Bears.

 

[SigPacker]

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Kildars wrote:

or a couple of these:

Okay we have one amazing German Shepherd that is an awesome watch dog.. So far her bark has kept Coyotes off our property near our house, but not all of the property (2 acres) however we have about 3-4 packs of coyotes surrounding us... (we hear all of them anytime a siren goes by) one pack about 75-100' bedding in the wetlands to the south of us... are they legal to shoot in Auburn City Limits?

 

[SANDRAT]

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SigPacker wrote:

Kildars wrote:

or a couple of these:

Okay we have one amazing German Shepherd that is an awesome watch dog.. So far her bark has kept Coyotes off our property near our house, but not all of the property (2 acres) however we have about 3-4 packs of coyotes surrounding us... (we hear all of them anytime a siren goes by) one pack about 75-100' bedding in the wetlands to the south of us... are they legal to shoot in Auburn City Limits?

I don't know for sure,but all of the municipalities I am familiar with would really frown on that,at least with a firearm.Now,a Crossbow..............