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Open Carry AND Concealed Carry Simultaneously? I.E. Backup Gun??

opusd2

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When I took my course for my CC out in WY, one of the instructors showed just how well you could carry and not print. He stood in front of the classroom and started removing all sorts of sidearms from his person. For such a skinny man, he could sure hide all sorts of goodies. There were all types being pulled from strong side, weak side, behind the back from inside his vest, to places that would definitely make the term "personal protection" appropriate. In the end, he pulled around 27 and also had a knife or two thrown in for good measure. While definitely overkill (and reminding me of a scene from "Mad Max Beyond Thunderdome", it was to show that it is possible to carry in a way so as not to advertise to the world you were armed.

Like I said, he was a skinny man and I am sure his weight probably doubled after loading up like that. But it was a good advertisement for a number of different carrying holsters as well as sidearms. I don't remember how many he said he normally carried, but the message from the class was that a back up is always a good idea.
 

BROKENSPROKET

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on another humorous note; if i discharge the black powder pistol in self defense, and the establishment is marked and posted: No Smoking, did i violate that?

I have never seen a Surgeon Generals warning on a container of black powder. It might even be good for you.
 

Shotgun

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Madison, Wisconsin, USA
I have never seen a Surgeon Generals warning on a container of black powder. It might even be good for you.

It's good for you if it saves your life! I just looked at a can of GOEX and it has warnings on 3 out of 4 sides. Considering there is guy who got 3rd degree burns on his face a few weeks ago when he had a spark jump into a foolishly open can of it, it does require a bit of respect.
 

Outdoorsman1

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Silver Lake WI
When I took my course for my CC out in WY, one of the instructors showed just how well you could carry and not print. He stood in front of the classroom and started removing all sorts of sidearms from his person. For such a skinny man, he could sure hide all sorts of goodies. There were all types being pulled from strong side, weak side, behind the back from inside his vest, to places that would definitely make the term "personal protection" appropriate. In the end, he pulled around 27 and also had a knife or two thrown in for good measure. While definitely overkill (and reminding me of a scene from "Mad Max Beyond Thunderdome", it was to show that it is possible to carry in a way so as not to advertise to the world you were armed.

Like I said, he was a skinny man and I am sure his weight probably doubled after loading up like that. But it was a good advertisement for a number of different carrying holsters as well as sidearms. I don't remember how many he said he normally carried, but the message from the class was that a back up is always a good idea.

I saw a similar video online somewhere... not sure where or would link to it.... Young man standing in fromt of an empty table with button down shirt neatly tucked into his jeans. Then he starts to "unload".... pulling pistols out of places that I did not even think existed... pulled a long gun (shotgun) from out of his pant leg, couple of large knives, can't remeber exactly how many firearms, but it was a LOT... regular size rectangular table was full......

Outdoorsman1
 

rcawdor57

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Backup Gun, Concealed....Ruger LCR?

OK. After much ado I have been looking hard at the Ruger LCR. Some suggested the .357 version while others suggested the .38SPL version which appears to be about $50 less in cost. I have been told the trigger on both models is as smooth as silk and breaks cleanly. I will have to handle one before I decide if that is what I want for a B.U.G. (or is it a Bug Out Gun? :) ). Looks like I will have to visit with Randy in Paddock Lake and try one on for size.

Suggestions for a good, concealed carry type holster?
 

protias

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SE, WI
OK. After much ado I have been looking hard at the Ruger LCR. Some suggested the .357 version while others suggested the .38SPL version which appears to be about $50 less in cost. I have been told the trigger on both models is as smooth as silk and breaks cleanly. I will have to handle one before I decide if that is what I want for a B.U.G. (or is it a Bug Out Gun? :) ). Looks like I will have to visit with Randy in Paddock Lake and try one on for size.

Suggestions for a good, concealed carry type holster?

I hated shooting the LCR in .38, I can't imagine shooting it in .357. For carry, it is very light, but shooting is less than pleasant.
 

MKEgal

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Deadscott said:
Oh, I don't open carry.
Welcome to Open Carry Dot Org.
So if you don't support the reason the site exists, why are you here?

thebigsd said:
What you don't know can't hurt you, right?
It seems the anti's think that way, at least in FL. Down there, only cc is allowed, and the antis say people would run in terror from an OC pistol w/o a badge. In WI, of course, they completely reverse their arguments. (cc is bad, evil, why would you want to hide it, etc.)

Then throw in the climate differences & the antis make even less sense. Where it's hot, people have to wear extra clothing. Where it's cold, people have to wear short clothing or keep it open or tucked back.

:cuss: :banghead: :mad:
 

phred

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I have never seen a Surgeon Generals warning on a container of black powder. It might even be good for you.

Charcoal (Carbon), Sulfur, and Potassium Nitrate*

Potassium Nitrate is a diuretic, so you might pee a lot if you ingest the powder. On the other, hand ingested charcoal might help your breath. Sulfur, hmmm, it's non-toxic but it might come out smelling like rotten eggs, similar to the smell of burning black powder.

Try some on your Wheaties but don't grind down too hard on dry cereal.:uhoh:
 

thenewchance

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This is a good idea actually. Say some "bad guy" notices your OC and decides to disarm you. They probably wouldn't guess you have a second firearm on your person.
 

protias

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This is a good idea actually. Say some "bad guy" notices your OC and decides to disarm you. They probably wouldn't guess you have a second firearm on your person.

There has never been a gun grab. However, there was an armed robbery where the victim had to help the thug get the firearm out of the holster. This is why you practice, practice, practice.
 

ccwinstructor

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Yuma, Arizona, USA
I did that demonstration in my Arizona CCW class. It was very popular.

When I took my course for my CC out in WY, one of the instructors showed just how well you could carry and not print. He stood in front of the classroom and started removing all sorts of sidearms from his person. For such a skinny man, he could sure hide all sorts of goodies. There were all types being pulled from strong side, weak side, behind the back from inside his vest, to places that would definitely make the term "personal protection" appropriate. In the end, he pulled around 27 and also had a knife or two thrown in for good measure. While definitely overkill (and reminding me of a scene from "Mad Max Beyond Thunderdome", it was to show that it is possible to carry in a way so as not to advertise to the world you were armed.

Like I said, he was a skinny man and I am sure his weight probably doubled after loading up like that. But it was a good advertisement for a number of different carrying holsters as well as sidearms. I don't remember how many he said he normally carried, but the message from the class was that a back up is always a good idea.

I did that exact demonstration in my CCW class for Arizona when we had the 16 hour course requirement. It was one of the most popular parts of the course. I also did it for about a decade at the "Personal Protective Equipment" class I gave at Yuma Proving Ground for about a decade. Everyone loves it.

Most people are just not looking at someone to see if they might be carrying concealed weapons. When they see them come out, quickly and relatively effortlessly, it makes an impression!
 
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