• We are now running on a new, and hopefully much-improved, server. In addition we are also on new forum software. Any move entails a lot of technical details and I suspect we will encounter a few issues as the new server goes live. Please be patient with us. It will be worth it! :) Please help by posting all issues here.
  • The forum will be down for about an hour this weekend for maintenance. I apologize for the inconvenience.
  • If you are having trouble seeing the forum then you may need to clear your browser's DNS cache. Click here for instructions on how to do that
  • Please review the Forum Rules frequently as we are constantly trying to improve the forum for our members and visitors.

Obama likely to take executive action on gun control...

slapmonkay

Campaign Veteran
Joined
May 6, 2011
Messages
1,281
Location
Montana
Obama will continue his dictatorial regime by taking "executive action" instead of presenting legislation for a vote... Who didn't see that coming?

http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/276313-biden-obama-prepared-to-take-executive-action-on-gun-control

President Obama will likely take executive action in an effort to tamp down the recent rash of gun violence, Vice President Biden said Wednesday.

“The president is going go act,” said Biden, who is conducting meetings all week on gun control. “There are executive orders, executive action that can be taken. We haven't decided what that is yet, but we're compiling it all.”
 

compmanio365

Regular Member
Joined
Apr 21, 2007
Messages
2,013
Location
Pierce County, Washington, USA
At what point do we declare the government as having become tyrannous and no longer answering to the will of the people? When will we act? Will we act at all? Or will history remember America as the country that rolled over, yawned, and hit the snooze button? These are frightening times I hoped I would never see. We essentially have a dictator in the Oval Office and everyone is "too busy" to be bothered to care.
 

Ajetpilot

Regular Member
Joined
Jul 6, 2007
Messages
1,415
Location
Olalla, Kitsap County, Washington, USA
I don't what he thinks he can do. Maybe Biden was just talking out of his hat again; or maybe they are just running it up the flag poll to see what the reaction might be. In any event, whatever he does will be unconstitutional, but it will take a long time to get through the court system.
 

WalkingWolf

Regular Member
Joined
Jul 31, 2011
Messages
11,912
Location
North Carolina
It's not like Obama didn't warn us he was going to pull this shitt, or he told Putin, but the message was there. The people just did not listen...
 

compmanio365

Regular Member
Joined
Apr 21, 2007
Messages
2,013
Location
Pierce County, Washington, USA
Aren't executive orders immediately effective? I thought that was the whole point of them....to bypass all the legal methods of passing a law, so they didn't have to go through the courts and the 2 other branches. Until challenged and overturned, any law passed via executive order would be binding.
 

Ajetpilot

Regular Member
Joined
Jul 6, 2007
Messages
1,415
Location
Olalla, Kitsap County, Washington, USA
Aren't executive orders immediately effective? I thought that was the whole point of them....to bypass all the legal methods of passing a law, so they didn't have to go through the courts and the 2 other branches. Until challenged and overturned, any law passed via executive order would be binding.
All true, and it will take until the end of his reign to get them declared unconstitutional. Sad!
 

PFC HALE

Regular Member
Joined
Jun 20, 2012
Messages
481
Location
earth
i think i mentioned this theory on another thread and was called names for it by some lady...

i hope im not right :(
 

SeattleWingsfan

Regular Member
Joined
Feb 1, 2011
Messages
188
Location
Lakewood, Washington, United States
At what point do we declare the government as having become tyrannous and no longer answering to the will of the people? When will we act? Will we act at all? Or will history remember America as the country that rolled over, yawned, and hit the snooze button? These are frightening times I hoped I would never see. We essentially have a dictator in the Oval Office and everyone is "too busy" to be bothered to care.


Sadly thats what society has come to. The more people have moved away from rural life and urban sprawl has taken over. People have changed alot. I remember as a kid we lived on a several hundred acre piece of property out in the middle of nowhere. But I knew very well every person that lived within 5 miles. I now live on a small dead end street on a culisac with 5 other houses. I have tried to talk to each of them, but they are wraped up in there own little world and seem freaked out that I even approach them. The family dynamic has changed alot as well with both parents working. people having kids before they are grown up. The internet and the instant gradification people want.

When I asked friends about going with me to the GOP convention to support Ron Paul, only 1 of 8 range 20-33 years old knew who he was. That was frightening to me. Our youth cares about Ken Block, Snooki, paintball, dancing with the stars, whats the coolest cell phone, beer pong, etc... so many of them don't go to college to get a degree, even less haven't learned a trade. And then they would rather not work than take a job making minimum wage because thats all they can do.
 

07Altima

Regular Member
Joined
Jan 13, 2011
Messages
131
Location
Monroe
If he does he will be in violation

If he passes any executive orders on the 2A he will be in violation of the DICK ACT, and be in violation of the Second amendment. Since without Congressional action it is a violation of the infringement clause in the Second Amendment, it would give us both a legal right, and a Constitutional right to call for Open ARMED REVOLT.

So I am really hoping that SoB tries to break the law, since ignorance of the law is no excuse I will give a short period to see if Congress does something to him, and if they roll over I will. I am so sick and tired of violations of the LAW, and the CONSTITUTION by our Congress. If we messed up like he is about to we would be slaughtered and imprisoned for 20 or 30 years with little to no publicity.

He on the other hand keeps violating law after law, and so far every single law enforcement agency keeps bowing to him, and kissing his ass even though he has broken more laws than most of us could ever get away with even attempting. I am to the point that I am sick of living in a country where Government Agents do not up hold their Oaths, and think what the hell lets just let him keep breaking the law.

But hey if you are a poor person we are going to hang you by every single noose we can get around your neck. His behavior of taking vacations every three months sure seems like when the queen of France said let them eat CAKE. What is even more sad is that he got poor people to vote for him by claiming that the Rich are to blame for their problems when he is one of those RICH. He has sheltered accounts in Switzerland. Where the hell do we draw the damn line. I REFUSE TO REGISTER PERIOD!!!!
 

WalkingWolf

Regular Member
Joined
Jul 31, 2011
Messages
11,912
Location
North Carolina
If he passes any executive orders on the 2A he will be in violation of the DICK ACT, and be in violation of the Second amendment. Since without Congressional action it is a violation of the infringement clause in the Second Amendment, it would give us both a legal right, and a Constitutional right to call for Open ARMED REVOLT.

So I am really hoping that SoB tries to break the law, since ignorance of the law is no excuse I will give a short period to see if Congress does something to him, and if they roll over I will. I am so sick and tired of violations of the LAW, and the CONSTITUTION by our Congress. If we messed up like he is about to we would be slaughtered and imprisoned for 20 or 30 years with little to no publicity.

He on the other hand keeps violating law after law, and so far every single law enforcement agency keeps bowing to him, and kissing his ass even though he has broken more laws than most of us could ever get away with even attempting. I am to the point that I am sick of living in a country where Government Agents do not up hold their Oaths, and think what the hell lets just let him keep breaking the law.

But hey if you are a poor person we are going to hang you by every single noose we can get around your neck. His behavior of taking vacations every three months sure seems like when the queen of France said let them eat CAKE. What is even more sad is that he got poor people to vote for him by claiming that the Rich are to blame for their problems when he is one of those RICH. He has sheltered accounts in Switzerland. Where the hell do we draw the damn line. I REFUSE TO REGISTER PERIOD!!!!
He gives law enforcement agencies free guns, tanks, grants, cars, they are as entitled as the welfare queens. Law Enforcement has been completely brainwashed with free money and goodies. This is why he can't/won't cut any spending, he can't maintain control without the handouts.
 

07Altima

Regular Member
Joined
Jan 13, 2011
Messages
131
Location
Monroe
That is a good point

I guess I just have too much Native American, and German blood to not be a hot head :)
 

Bill45

Regular Member
Joined
Oct 1, 2007
Messages
164
Location
Tacoma, Washington, USA
If you recall your history, another president disobayed the constitution he had sworn to uphold.

This presidend today is raved about as one of the greatest. Franklin D. Roosevelt

All he did, by presidental decree, was imprison tens of thousands of American citizens for no other reason than they were Japanese.

Almost no one complained, hardly blinked an eye.

This president could decree that all "assault" rifles in private citizen hands constitute a clear and present danger to American society and need to be confiscated. Any person in posesson of one after a certain date will be imprisioned (in re-education camps) for not less than 10 years and fined not less than $20,000.

"So let it be written, so let it be done."
 

WalkingWolf

Regular Member
Joined
Jul 31, 2011
Messages
11,912
Location
North Carolina
If you recall your history, another president disobayed the constitution he had sworn to uphold.

This presidend today is raved about as one of the greatest. Franklin D. Roosevelt

All he did, by presidental decree, was imprison tens of thousands of American citizens for no other reason than they were Japanese.

Almost no one complained, hardly blinked an eye.

This president could decree that all "assault" rifles in private citizen hands constitute a clear and present danger to American society and need to be confiscated. Any person in posesson of one after a certain date will be imprisioned (in re-education camps) for not less than 10 years and fined not less than $20,000.

"So let it be written, so let it be done."
Hitler tattooed people, only to send them to concentration camps~~FDR gave people numbers and put them into a system to track them and their income. Of course he convinced people it was for their own good, just as he claimed for the Japanese Americans.
 

MainelyGlock

Regular Member
Joined
Feb 19, 2012
Messages
615
Location
Portland, ME
So what's the point of even sending the bill to Congress? For show? So much for checks and balances! It was a nice concept while it lasted (which wasn't very long).
 

SGTapone

Regular Member
Joined
Jan 4, 2013
Messages
45
Location
Olympia WA
Sadly thats what society has come to. The more people have moved away from rural life and urban sprawl has taken over. People have changed alot. I remember as a kid we lived on a several hundred acre piece of property out in the middle of nowhere. But I knew very well every person that lived within 5 miles. I now live on a small dead end street on a culisac with 5 other houses. I have tried to talk to each of them, but they are wraped up in there own little world and seem freaked out that I even approach them. The family dynamic has changed alot as well with both parents working. people having kids before they are grown up. The internet and the instant gradification people want.

When I asked friends about going with me to the GOP convention to support Ron Paul, only 1 of 8 range 20-33 years old knew who he was. That was frightening to me. Our youth cares about Ken Block, Snooki, paintball, dancing with the stars, whats the coolest cell phone, beer pong, etc... so many of them don't go to college to get a degree, even less haven't learned a trade. And then they would rather not work than take a job making minimum wage because thats all they can do.

I had to laugh, i cant hold serious political, or philisophical conversation with my peers without at least one of them turning to their "smart phone" to play a game or send an IM. then when everyone has lost interest (2-3 munutes later)one of the guys inevitably asks if I watched the latest "gymkana" whatever the he11 that is.
every one is oblivious to the REAL world around them.

I am right in the middle of that age range, and even I am shocked and embarrassed by my own generation. however I will not go to college to get a degree, it would be financial suicide in this day and age :(

keep them chasing the next smart phone and shiny car, and before long the even freedom that allows them to be oblivious will be evaporate...... :'(
 
Last edited:

sudden valley gunner

Regular Member
Joined
Dec 13, 2008
Messages
16,690
Location
Whatcom County
So what's the point of even sending the bill to Congress? For show? So much for checks and balances! It was a nice concept while it lasted (which wasn't very long).
What checks and balances, that is just an illusion, they are all part of the government. The only real check is us, and the anti federalist knew this and why they insisted on a bill of rights, and the reason for the 2A.

Congress has willingly overlooked, the overstepping of the constitutional boundaries for themselves, the president and the courts.
 

PFC HALE

Regular Member
Joined
Jun 20, 2012
Messages
481
Location
earth
I had to laugh, i cant hold serious political, or philisophical conversation with my peers without at least one of them turning to their "smart phone" to play a game or send an IM. then when everyone has lost interest (2-3 munutes later)one of the guys inevitably asks if I watched the latest "gymkana" whatever the he11 that is.
every one is oblivious to the REAL world around them.

I am right in the middle of that age range, and even I am shocked and embarrassed by my own generation. however I will not go to college to get a degree, it would be financial suicide in this day and age :(

keep them chasing the next smart phone and shiny car, and before long the even freedom that allows them to be oblivious will be evaporate...... :'(
i fear for our youth, they wont be able to handle the things to come :(
 
Top