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My gun probably saved me.

jeffrey-r

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Oh man, I never ever leave my gun in the car when I travel,(I never leave my gun period, or it never leaves me, whatever) or especilally have to pull into a rest stop. Thats a prime location for thieves and thugs. Glad you made it out alive. If I dont have my gun on me, I feel naked, and vulnerable, which I am. I do not like that feeling.

This post was from over a year ago, but I guess the sentiment never gets old.

All one needs to do is think of any shooting or assault that has ever happened in a store, barber shop, pharmacy, gas station, cafe, rest stop... that's why you carry everywhere.

"But why would you need a gun while you get your hair cut?" Search for barber shop shooting and you'll find at least a dozen from this year, easily. The only time I don't have my firearm is when I'm in the office. I have to leave it in the car because of policy. The kicker is that about a decade ago there was a deranged ex-husband that wore a suit and "snuck" his way into work and shot his wife and had a 3 hour standoff. I know my company can't really protect my life, but you make sacrifices for employment. [And this is a big office, automotive supplier.]
 
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dudeman1

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The anti gunners live in a fantasy, tree hugging, we are all alright, let the government take care of you, the police and govt are the only ones that should have firearms, the thieves will not hurt you, just reason with them, before they take your life and rape your wife and daughter, bunny hugging, sick make believe utopian like world in their minds kind of world. We should be at the mercy of the thieves and felons out there and should not be able to protect ourselves. I dont see the rational mentality in that, do you? Please correct me if im wrong here. But what do I know, others say guns kill people, not the felons/crazies with guns. Again, what do I know.
 
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XD40sc

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The saddest part of this story is that when I told it to some of my co-workers at the time that were anti-gun as a means to let them know that guns do have legitimate use, they berated me for pulling a gun on an "unarmed" man.

Your co-workers are as stupid as Mark Glaze professing that the way to deal with a man attacking with an axe handle is to 'use your words'.
 

OC for ME

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Guns do kill people. Why do you carry one if that were not the case. There are other tools to stop the threat that are less lethal. Why a gun?
 

XD40sc

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Guns do kill people. Why do you carry one if that were not the case. There are other tools to stop the threat that are less lethal. Why a gun?

Question: What else is on your utility belt, baton, blade, mace/pepper spray, taser?
 

DocWalker

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Your co-workers are as stupid as Mark Glaze professing that the way to deal with a man attacking with an axe handle is to 'use your words'.

Those words would be "ouch-ooofff-stop-ouch-ooowww-please--oooww-stop-ouch-ohhhh-oooffff-stop-help-help-help-heeelllpppp-auuuugghhhh......silence
 

CT Barfly

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The biggest lesson is always take your pistol into the rest room of a rest area late at night no matter how bad you have to go. This or start wearing a foley cath so you don't have to stop....lol

Foley????

Dude, stadium buddy is all that is needed.
 

Daniel7723

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The only effective way to prevent the boarding by pirates is firearms. The only legal way to do this is to have a special detachment of arms security "professionals" on board to provide the needed firepower.

I wonder how common this practice is. Do most big commercial ships have a security detachment these days? What constitutes "professionals" exactly? Do they just need to be employed by someone other than the shipping company? What is to stop the crew from declaring that they themselves are security professionals?
 

DocWalker

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I wonder how common this practice is. Do most big commercial ships have a security detachment these days? What constitutes "professionals" exactly? Do they just need to be employed by someone other than the shipping company? What is to stop the crew from declaring that they themselves are security professionals?

Nope ships are unarmed as most ports don't allow ships to dock that have arms on them. It would be impossiable for a ship to dock if they are armed, this is why the pirates have easy prey and ships don't fight back. It is like going to Chicago only the thugs have guns and your taking your life into danger just by going there. Same thing goes for certain places ships sail.
 

Freedom1Man

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Nope ships are unarmed as most ports don't allow ships to dock that have arms on them. It would be impossiable for a ship to dock if they are armed, this is why the pirates have easy prey and ships don't fight back. It is like going to Chicago only the thugs have guns and your taking your life into danger just by going there. Same thing goes for certain places ships sail.

Me thinks this could be a new business opportunity, let's build/buy a combat ship and offer an escort service to freighters....
 

dudeman1

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Gun saved me

Please explain to me how a gun kills someone. How does a piece of metal, wood, plastic, iron, whatever its made out of, kill someone. I have a gun on my nightstand right now, that hasnt killed anyone, and I have had it for 5 years now. I have had my Glock 17 9MM for 10 years now, and it hasnt killed anyone. I have a shotgun and it hasnt killed anyone. So, please tell me,and explain, how an inantimate object can kill someone, when it just lays there, and has no life of its own. Dont you think(its just me) it takes a human being, a living, breathing human being to actually pick up the non living, no life, inantimate object(gun) and make the decision to point it at another human being and pull the trigger? Isnt that a common sense way, a realistic way of looking at the whole thing, isnt it? How does a bat, a tire iron, a knife, a rock, a golf club, a fist, etc, please explain to me how these kill someone, without someone picking these things up and using them to kill another human being. Then again, more logic and common sense, sorry. Ever stop and think, its the crazy person, its the career criminal, who doesnt care if you live or die that picks up the knife, the baseball bat, the gun and uses it, pulls the trigger with their human finger. How can an inantimate object take on a life of its own and kill someone. Explain, please, I want to hear this.
 

dudeman1

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I was young and more naive than I care to admit when this incident occurred.

I guess the biggest disappointment brought about due to my being naive was that there were actually people that felt that it would have been better for me to get injured than to use a gun in self defense.

The actually said that those guys probably did not want to kill me and would probably just have taken my vehicle as their POS Gremlin appeared to be in bad shape.

I fought them on every point asking why I should have to take a beating so that they can have my truck.

It did not matter what I said, they always put it back on me that I should have just complied and given them what they wanted because no truck is worth my life and no truck was worth me killing them over.

I learned really good lessons during these arguments about the total irrationality of the anti-gun, anti-self-defense mindset.

It really scared the daylights out of me that people could think things so stupid. I mean, they valued the criminal and his plight more than they valued me, a law abiding citizen and fellow co-worker.

One of them actually said that I was targeted because my truck was fairly new and I kept it shining and they only had a beat up old Gremlin, like that somehow made everything all right.

I may not have converted any of them but the lessons I learned from them have stayed with me to this day.

I will not give an inch on MY RIGHT to self defense. I will not compromise my safety over someone else's discomfort. I will not vote for anyone that has ever compromised on gun rights. They made me what I am today with their idiotic "roll over and die" attitudes that made me nauseous then but stronger now.

So, rant over....

People can say this and that to you, you should have done this, or done that, etc. You and only you know what you went through, and had to do at that moment. Its easy to tell people what they should do. You did what you thought was right at the moment, and thats all that counts. You never know how you are going to react in a situation like that. You hope for the best, but prepare for the worst, if you can. Please dont listen to to everyone telling you this and that. They know nothing, unless they are in your shoes. Carry on.
 

dudeman1

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People can say this and that to you, you should have done this, or done that, etc. You and only you know what you went through, and had to do at that moment. Its easy to tell people what they should do. You did what you thought was right at the moment, and thats all that counts. You never know how you are going to react in a situation like that. You hope for the best, but prepare for the worst, if you can. Please dont listen to to everyone telling you this and that. They know nothing, unless they are in your shoes. Carry on.

Besides, people are insensitive, know it all D_cks, who know more then you do(Think they do).
 

DocWalker

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People can say this and that to you, you should have done this, or done that, etc. You and only you know what you went through, and had to do at that moment. Its easy to tell people what they should do. You did what you thought was right at the moment, and thats all that counts. You never know how you are going to react in a situation like that. You hope for the best, but prepare for the worst, if you can. Please dont listen to to everyone telling you this and that. They know nothing, unless they are in your shoes. Carry on.

People that don't fight back usually end up afraid to come out of the house, affraid of everything.

It isn't just about saving a truck but about saving your piece of mind. Saving your self respect, Saving your soul.

I agree with you I would rather go down fighting than to live in fear, if you call that living.
 

since9

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I do not use my gun to scare people. If I un-holster my gun, someone IS getting shot.

Same. If it's time to draw, it's almost always time to fire, as in "an immediate threat." At that point, it's DRAWSQUEEZEBAM.

The only exception would be if the perp is distant enough, and not similarly armed, so I'd have enough time to fire if they charged. If so, I may very well draw and issue verbal commands.

One key thing to remember is that for many states, particularly those without castle laws, you can shoot to stop an immediate threat, but that's about all. In many states, shooting after a fleeing felon may very well result in you getting branded with the f-word. (felon)
 
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