This is my first post here. I also live in Loveland. Good job opencarrybilly. Do you know what training (specifically) they will be giving their officers?
We have their outline (below). I am told that the DA's office does the training and will make it available to several LEAs in the area. Their outline:
"'STRIKING THE BALANCE'
A training session to explore the interplay between a citizens’s right to bear arms under the 2nd Amendment and a police officer’s right to conduct “reasonable” searches and seizures under the 4th Amendment for officer safety purposes.
Topics to be Covered
• A citizen’s right to bear arms under the 2nd Amendment as interpreted by the United States Supreme Court
• A police officers right under the 4th Amendment to conduct “reasonable” searches and seizures.
• The three types of police/citizen contacts.
o Consensual contacts
o Investigatory stops
o Arrests
• The constitutional underpinnings for those police/citizen contacts.
o Terry v. Ohio, 392 U.S. 1 (1968).
o Adams v. Williams, 407 U.S. 143 (1972).
o Arizona v. Johnson, 129 S. Ct. 781 (2009)
o Florida v. J.L., 529 U.S. 266 (2000)
o People v. Ealum, 211 P.3d 48 (Colo. 2009)
o United States v. King, 990 F.2d 1552 (10th Cir. 1993)
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• The legal requirements necessary for a valid investigatory stop.
• The legal limitations an officer must observe when conducting an investigatory stop.
• The legal requirements necessary for a valid frisk for weapons.
• The legal limitations an officer must observe when conducting a frisk for weapons.
• The legal requirements for a consensual search for weapons.
• The difference between probable cause for an arrest and reasonable suspicion for an investigatory stop.
• Relevant Colorado statutes dealing with weapons offenses.
Presented by Clifford E. Riedel
Assistant District Attorney
8th Judicial District of Colorado"
Also, do you know what other procedures about dealing with an OC'er they will be enacting?
I don't know exactly. I can say, though, that recently I had a mid morning breakfast at Fatso's reseaurante. there were two LEOs in a booth there. One of them couldn't take his eyes off my gun. the look on his face seemed to express concern. He never said anything to me. When they finished their meal, they left separately. One of them stopped to talk with some other breakfasters accross the way. He didn't even look at me not even a nod in my direction. I heard him introduce himself to one of the other party by the same last name as one of the defendants in the case I don't know what all that means.