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Looking for a concealable .40

bigdaddy1

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My open carry sidearm is a .40 cal, so I would like to find a sidearm chambered the same for concealed carry. Any suggestions?
 

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My OC sidearm is a Ruger P91DC full frame. Too large and heavy to conceal. From a quick internet search Ruger really doesnt have anything small enough. Their compact is over 7.5 inches long and over 5.5 inches tall. I would like to stick with the .40 cal so I dont have to worry about which ammo to grab. I will look into all the sidearms you folks talked about here, thanks.
 

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So far the Kahr CM40 is the smallest .40 I have found. Its DAO but the reviews indicate the trigger pull has to go back full before a second shot can be made, that is a little concerning. How is the XD subcompact? Is it a DAO, and the trigger pull?
 

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Kahr trigger feel

Similar to shooting an S&W DA revolver - very smooth, and light. Mine breaks at 7 pounds and trigger travel is only 3/8 inch so arguably better than a stock S&W revolver. And the Kahr does not feel as snappy to me as a baby Glock. Try one if possible.
 
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sjcea

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My open carry sidearm is a .40 cal, so I would like to find a sidearm chambered the same for concealed carry. Any suggestions?
Smith and Wesson M&P Shield!!! Awesome gun I have it in both the 40 Cal and 9mm

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NoTolerance

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So far the Kahr CM40 is the smallest .40 I have found. Its DAO but the reviews indicate the trigger pull has to go back full before a second shot can be made, that is a little concerning. How is the XD subcompact? Is it a DAO, and the trigger pull?
You're welcome to try out my PPS anytime you'd like. I'd be happy to meet you at Shooters in Caledonia most any weekend.
 

Nascar24Glock

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OK, no body else said it so I will. Glock 27. But also have to agree with the concept of a smaller version of what you already carry.
I'll second this motion. My CC and OC gun is the Glock 27 Gen4. Here's a few reasons you may like it.
1. It is small and therefore good for concealment. For that matter, it will comfortably fit into a standard front hip pocket in a pair of blue jeans (if you choose to carry like this, I'd recommend not chambering a round or getting a pocket holster of some kind).
2. If you get the Gen4 version, you get a couple of extra features: adjustable grip size and a reversible magazine release button for left-handed shooters.
3. Magazines from the larger-sized Glocks will fit into the model 27. So, you can use a model 27 magazine (9 rounds), model 23 magazine (13 rounds), or a model 22/model 35 magazine (15 rounds). Essentially, you can easily convert the 27 (or any sub-compact Glock) into a compact, full size, or target model (without the extra barrel length, of course).

Of course, not everyone likes Glocks. Here's some reasons why you may not like it.
1. It, along with all Glocks, does not have what most people would consider to be an external safety device (technically, it has one external and two internal safeties; but, all three are de-activated automatically by pulling the trigger). While this makes its operation more simple, it also means that you have to take extra precaution that you "keep your bugger hooker off the bang switch, unless you want it to go bang :uhoh:."
2. The frame is make of plastic, instead of metal or wood. This one is simply a matter of personal preference, since some do not like the feel of "plastic guns."
3. Since the model 27 is both small and chambered in .40 caliber, some people complain that it is too "snappy" on the recoil for their liking.

Just some food for thought....
 

SouthernBoy

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So far the Kahr CM40 is the smallest .40 I have found. Its DAO but the reviews indicate the trigger pull has to go back full before a second shot can be made, that is a little concerning. How is the XD subcompact? Is it a DAO, and the trigger pull?
The Kahr is a true DAO design without second strike capability. The XD, like the M&P series, is sort of a hybrid in that technically both are SAO, but are classified as DAO designs. The reason I say technically SAO is because the trigger only does one thing: it releases the striker via a sear. With both guns, the striker is in a fully cocked condition when held by the sear.

Of course the Kahr's trigger "has to go back full before a second shot can be made". When pulled fully to the rear, which is short at 3/8", the sear is released, the gun fires a cartridge, and the slide retracts to eject the case then moves forward to strip the next round from the magazine and feed it into the barrel (chamber). The nice thing about the Kahr's trigger is that its feel is similar to that of a high quality revolver. There is no stacking or pre-travel as you find in Glock's, M&P's, and XD's. Some folks don't like this but it is an inherently safe trigger design.

The best Kahr's for feel and reliability tend to be the all steel versions and the K40 Elite series is very nice, though expensive. I have a K40 Elite '98 and will never sell it.
 
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