Long gun OC at the Tea Parties?

[RedKnightt]

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Reverend73 wrote:

Good discussion. Exactly why I asked the question.

As I said before, I'm not sure I have the testicular fortitude. If I had a flintlock, I think I would do it.

I think long gun OC needs to be done, and I still believe this would be a good venue to do it. I will have a camcorder at the event.

A point I haven't seen anyone bring up yet:

Last I knew, you were an active duty naval officer. If this goes poorly (arrest, etc.), even if you are eventually cleared/any BS charges dropped, it could still have an effect on your career.

To do this or not is your decision, obviously, but I second the suggestions earlier to have video backup, have a lawyer ready, and be prepared to have your life disrupted for a time if things truly go south.

 

[Neplusultra]

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ODA 226 wrote:

TexasNative wrote:

ODA 226 wrote:

I don't feel this is the time nor the place.

Obviously, many of us disagree with you.

Obviously many that are encouraging him to OC a rifle to the Tea Party WOULDN'T OR WON'T DO IT THEMSELVES. Wanna take a guess why?

I'd do it, let's not forget that it's LEGAL....

 

[Neplusultra]

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CRF250rider1000 wrote:

ODA 226 wrote:

hsmith wrote:

I really don't see these demonstrations as open carry related, not saying you shouldn't open carry at all - but to me OC'ing a long gun distracts from the true purpose.

While you are in your legal rights, I don't see it as beneficial to the "cause" these demonstrations serve.

YMMV

+1,000,000

+1

Well then, what is the cause? You still do not understand the purpose of the 2A, I take it..... I have always wondered, and do not yet have an answer, about the question of when *is* armed rebellion justified?

Any answers?

 

[2a4all]

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I had a different long gun in mind.

My father & my uncles served in WWII. I am a Vietnam Vet (CPO, USN).

I was toying with the idea of showing up at the Newport News Tea Party with my M1 Garand (circa 1945) slung, wearing one of those Vietnam Veteran ball caps (I don't usually wear hats.).

But I don't have the time or resources to deal with the "undue attention" mentioned in earlier posts.

Perhaps another time...

 

[ODA 226]

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Neplusultra wrote:

ODA 226 wrote:

TexasNative wrote:

ODA 226 wrote:

I don't feel this is the time nor the place.

Obviously, many of us disagree with you.

Obviously many that are encouraging him to OC a rifle to the Tea Party WOULDN'T OR WON'T DO IT THEMSELVES. Wanna take a guess why?

I'd do it, let's not forget that it's LEGAL....

No doubt it is legal. But is it PRUDENT?

 

[longwatch]

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I think it's not a good idea, primarily in that you may be hurting the cause of the Tea Parties. However I think handgun OC at the event is fine. Is that weird?

 

[Lew]

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What if you kept something innocent in your hand? If you were licking an ice cream cone or something, anybody freaking out and acting like you're a menace would look ridiculous.

Banana? :celebrate

I'm a big fan of the oblivious nice guy routine.

 

[SaltH2OHokie]

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longwatch wrote:

I think it's not a good idea, primarily in that you may be hurting the cause of the Tea Parties. However I think handgun OC at the event is fine. Is that weird?

I think so. Just my opinion.

 

[ufcfanvt]

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If it's legal and feels good, DO IT!
I would heed the suggestions about keeping friends interspersed with camcorders handy.
I would also bring one or two who wouldn't mind doing your arguing for you if any Agent Provocateurs show up. The last thing we need is a pic on the news of a Righty w/ a Rifle shouting a this guy:

 

[Reverend73]

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RedKnightt wrote:

Reverend73 wrote:

Good discussion. Exactly why I asked the question.

As I said before, I'm not sure I have the testicular fortitude. If I had a flintlock, I think I would do it.

I think long gun OC needs to be done, and I still believe this would be a good venue to do it. I will have a camcorder at the event.

A point I haven't seen anyone bring up yet:

Last I knew, you were an active duty naval officer. If this goes poorly (arrest, etc.), even if you are eventually cleared/any BS charges dropped, it could still have an effect on your career.

To do this or not is your decision, obviously, but I second the suggestions earlier to have video backup, have a lawyer ready, and be prepared to have your life disrupted for a time if things truly go south.

Valid point. However I am still not concerned with being arrested. Arrested for what, exactly? They may indeed cuff me and disarm me until they figure out they've screwed up, but that would likely be as far as it would go.



I too was thinking of slinging my WWII vintage Garand.

 

[ravonaf]

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Reverend73 wrote:

RedKnightt wrote:

Reverend73 wrote:

Good discussion. Exactly why I asked the question.

As I said before, I'm not sure I have the testicular fortitude. If I had a flintlock, I think I would do it.

I think long gun OC needs to be done, and I still believe this would be a good venue to do it. I will have a camcorder at the event.

A point I haven't seen anyone bring up yet:

Last I knew, you were an active duty naval officer. If this goes poorly (arrest, etc.), even if you are eventually cleared/any BS charges dropped, it could still have an effect on your career.

To do this or not is your decision, obviously, but I second the suggestions earlier to have video backup, have a lawyer ready, and be prepared to have your life disrupted for a time if things truly go south.

Valid point. However I am still not concerned with being arrested. Arrested for what, exactly? They may indeed cuff me and disarm me until they figure out they've screwed up, but that would likely be as far as it would go.



I too was thinking of slinging my WWII vintage Garand.

Lots of innocent people are sitting in jail who thought the exact same thing. They don't care about "legal". If you happen to come across a jack booted thug with a badge he could make your life a living hell.

But if you do it and get busted on some trumped up charge. I'll contribute to your defense.

 

[Neplusultra]

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ravonaf wrote:

Reverend73 wrote:

RedKnightt wrote:

Reverend73 wrote:

Good discussion. Exactly why I asked the question.

As I said before, I'm not sure I have the testicular fortitude. If I had a flintlock, I think I would do it.

I think long gun OC needs to be done, and I still believe this would be a good venue to do it. I will have a camcorder at the event.

A point I haven't seen anyone bring up yet:

Last I knew, you were an active duty naval officer. If this goes poorly (arrest, etc.), even if you are eventually cleared/any BS charges dropped, it could still have an effect on your career.

To do this or not is your decision, obviously, but I second the suggestions earlier to have video backup, have a lawyer ready, and be prepared to have your life disrupted for a time if things truly go south.

Valid point. However I am still not concerned with being arrested. Arrested for what, exactly? They may indeed cuff me and disarm me until they figure out they've screwed up, but that would likely be as far as it would go.



I too was thinking of slinging my WWII vintage Garand.

Lots of innocent people are sitting in jail who thought the exact same thing. They don't care about "legal". If you happen to come across a jack booted thug with a badge he could make your life a living hell.

But if you do it and get busted on some trumped up charge. I'll contribute to your defense.

Yep, and as Danbus would say, "I could use mo money" :^).

 

[Pagan]

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The blacks during the 50's and 60's took much bigger challenges for their civil liberties, I certainly think this cause is as equally important,hence I have no fear of their abuse, because truth isour most powerful weapon.

Maybe I will wear a shirt with MLK on it or something to really drive the point home to any cops that want to become felons.

 

[Grapeshot]

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Neplusultra wrote:

Yep, and as Danbus would say, "I could use mo money" :^).

Danbus is quite well spoken and carries himself in a manner to bring credit to himself and any group with whom he identifies.

Never known him to cut bait and run but he doesn't go looking for the money - he does stand tall and resolute. When wronged he will respond and accept due compensation.

Yata hey

 

[Neplusultra]

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Grapeshot wrote:

Neplusultra wrote:

Yep, and as Danbus would say, "I could use mo money" :^).

Danbus is quite well spoken and carries himself in a manner to bring credit to himself and any group with whom he identifies.

Never known him to cut bait and run but he doesn't go looking for the money - he does stand tall and resolute. When wronged he will respond and accept due compensation.

Yata hey

That's a paraphrase from a classic interaction with LE when he was threatened with arrest. They eventually backed down. It was at the festival where Chet had problems the year earlier IIRC....

 

[Grapeshot]

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Neplusultra wrote:

Grapeshot wrote:

Neplusultra wrote:

Yep, and as Danbus would say, "I could use mo money" :^).

Danbus is quite well spoken and carries himself in a manner to bring credit to himself and any group with whom he identifies.

Never known him to cut bait and run but he doesn't go looking for the money - he does stand tall and resolute. When wronged he will respond and accept due compensation.

Yata hey

That's a paraphrase from a classic interaction with LE when he was threatened with arrest. They eventually backed down. It was at the festival where Chet had problems the year earlier IIRC....

No offense was intended.

I recognize that Dan can be very direct also, when the occasion warrants.

Yata hey

 

[Reverend73]

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Neplusultra wrote:

That's a paraphrase from a classic interaction with LE when he was threatened with arrest. They eventually backed down. It was at the festival where Chet had problems the year earlier IIRC....

Actually, that was me, July 4, 2007, as I tried to enter Town Point Park for the festivities. Dan's interactions occurred in front of the Bank of America building.

 

[Neplusultra]

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Reverend73 wrote:

Neplusultra wrote:

That's a paraphrase from a classic interaction with LE when he was threatened with arrest. They eventually backed down. It was at the festival where Chet had problems the year earlier IIRC....

Actually, that was me, July 4, 2007, as I tried to enter Town Point Park for the festivities. Dan's interactions occurred in front of the Bank of America building.

You stealin' Danbus' line :^). I'll have to dig it up. Not sure I read about your experience but I remember reading Dan's and LMAO :^).

 

[IanB]

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I would NOT do this unless you had videographers backing you up and a personal audio recorder on your person hanging from your neck. EXPECT to be questioned by the police. EXPECT them to detain you while they run through the code book page by page looking for something to allow them to remove you from the protest. Barring them not finding anything, EXPECT them to be hanging around you like flies on poop if they cannot remove you.

Lastly, EXPECT them to pressure you to leave voluntarily, then they may order you to leave. when you refuse, they haveways of dealing with your insubordination (taser).

 

[riverrat10k]

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I will be attending the Richmond Tea Party after work today. I will be armed.

It's raining here now, and I tend to CC in wet weather. If it clears up, I may OC, but I may unload that gun and keep the BUG hidden. OC'ing a $400 rock?

Large, jostling, crowds still make me a bit on edge when OC'ing through them. Plus my hands will be full with my sign and my camera, reducing my retention ability.

I am very torn about this and was up half the night thinking about the impact of OC'ing at these events. Most of my non-OC, but very gun friendly, friends think I am asking to get arrested if I OC. On the other hand, they think I am nuts to OC in my bank, Ukrops, IHOP, etc. No real problems yet.

I love the idea of long gun carry, but I'm not risking my new deer rifle. I will contemplate this throughout the day and probably won't decide until the last minute.

I did tell my ewe, er, my wife where the bail money was stashed. Love her, but sometimes it's difficultfor a sheepdog!