Lante
Regular Member
Good point Venya. One of the reasons I like big rounds!
It's worth pointing out that even with body armor, getting shot hurts. A good-sized round to the chest is certainly going to disorient. Visibility and agility while wearing a pro mask and armor are substantially reduced, which also offers some potential for armed and even unarmed resistance. It's a lousy tactical situation for everyone else, but what is the alternative? Die?
All these anti gun fanatics will be going crazy. I really do not get it. Lets make gun laws stricter but like many have said, nothing is really going to stop someone from doing something if they really want to do it.
Now what I do not get is, they said he stepped in through one of the side doors. HOW THE F DID HE GET IN? I know all the theatres I have been too, the exit and side doors are locked from the outside. Who let him in? Was the door propped open a little? If it would have been me at the theatre and was wounded or just there, I would be sueing the theatre for not potecting me.
I hope others with young families that read this thread play the fire exit game.
All these anti gun fanatics will be going crazy. I really do not get it. Lets make gun laws stricter but like many have said, nothing is really going to stop someone from doing something if they really want to do it.
It is coming out that he had ballistic helmet, vest and leg protection
It's worth pointing out that even with body armor, getting shot hurts. A good-sized round to the chest is certainly going to disorient. Visibility and agility while wearing a pro mask and armor are substantially reduced, which also offers some potential for armed and even unarmed resistance. It's a lousy tactical situation for everyone else, but what is the alternative? Die?
but fact doesn't change that they're mentally unstable and there have been numerous signs
twoskinsonemanns; Do bad things happen? Hell yes. Are you willing to be a complete slave to ensure they don't happen as frequently? That's up to you to decide.[/QUOTE said:I already made up my mind living dangerously free is much preferred to being safely caged IMHO.
Well say Venya, "Two to the chest, one to the face"...
Well we definitely know how it turned out where only the bad guy was armed.
Sounds good in theory. Now try and do that through smoke and/or tear gas, with people screaming and running around, with shotgun blasts headed your way.
That's of course AFTER you figure out what's going on, just like everyone else who thought it might have been part of the movie, and assuming that YOU weren't one of the first to get hit with a blast of buckshot in the face (saw an interview with one survivor this AM and he had what looked like three buckshot wounds in his face/neck).
I'm sure that lots of people here go to a gravel pit or indoor range regularly. They stand there and shoot at targets that don't shoot back. I doubt that anyone, other than those who've actually been in combat, have any clue what it's like to be in a situation where it's "real $h!t" blowing through the fan.
Best strategy has been stated earlier. Sit in a place where exit is quick and easy. If not, down and under whatever you can find. If armed, defend that position.
The best strategies have been mentioned already. Sit where you can exit quickly. If exit's not possible than get down and under anything available. If armed then defend yourself in that position.
I can just see an active shooter situation like this where several people stand up and open fire on the shooter. Others stand and open fire on the "good guys". Then come the Police and take out everyone with a visible gun.
Give it some thought.
I firmly believe that "All that it takes for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing"... just my two cents
Well we definitely know how it turned out where only the bad guy was armed.
You make it sound so easy but in reality it is not.
I certainly do not have a answer but as a community I bet we could come up with an answer to help address these issues while still protecting our rights.
Yes there may have been some signs that insane gunmen have shared with each other. The same signs many normal people who will never hurt anyone also exhibit. You think we should inflict psycho analysis on anyone who exhibits these signs? How about a system of auto-warrants for anyone even considered exhibiting these signs.
It would be a terrible tragedy to exchange the level of freedom required for this level of safety.
There are only two ways to deal with these incidents.
#1 Enslave the population. This would allow the government ensure no one had weapons of any kind GG or BG.
#2 Make people realize that their individual safety and those of the people they care about our their responsibility.
Do bad things happen? Hell yes. Are you willing to be a complete slave to ensure they don't happen as frequently? That's up to you to decide.