Dian Mullis: unless you have knowledge of Kohl's policy with regard to firearms (and it seems you do because the store wasn't posted) please DO NOT start your fact-finding mission by writing letters....without specifically stating you got ousted. just ask nicely in a letter to each of these individuals what company policy for carry of firearms in their stores...
Just be careful not to get detained for trespass. Meaning, just talk nicely in a friendly way. If the store employee doesn't seem inclined to talk, I wouldn't push my luck. Or, at least securely store the gun and then come back to discuss it. The last thing you want is an annoyed, angry, or scared store employee calling police, and then you get arrested.SNIP The next time you shop there openly carrying, and are stopped by an associate who tells you that firearm carry/OC is "against policy", ask if the person is a manager, and assuming they aren't, ask nicely to see the policy - which more likely than not applies to employees only. If the individual becomes insistent, ask to see a manager.
This is where you get to use the fact that you're a woman in a largely woman's business! You're not some hulking guy with a sidearm in a department store, you're a Mom with her child - use it to your advantage as necessary.
I agree with Citizen. Hand the guy your purchases and be sure and say "I'll be buying those diamond earrings down the street at (insert carry friendly jewelry store)".Just be careful not to get detained for trespass. Meaning, just talk nicely in a friendly way. If the store employee doesn't seem inclined to talk, I wouldn't push my luck. Or, at least securely store the gun and then come back to discuss it. The last thing you want is an annoyed, angry, or scared store employee calling police, and then you get arrested.
I'm more in favor of simply saying, "Oh, I'm sorry. I'll leave right now. Will you walk with me to the door?" And, then have any conversation about policy or talking to a manager while you're on your way out.
It occurs to me that when I was in school, never once was a kid able to brag, "My mom rides a motorcycle!"SNIP
And Solus, I have a blue Yamaha R1 if you see me scooting around
Hahahahahahaha!! Poor dad.I don't know if they brag about that, but my daughter wrote up a story of our new house and she went on and on about how I laid the tile in each room, then how I poured the concrete countertops in the bathrooms and the kitchen and how I did the general contracting. When my husband asked her why she didn't mention that he painted the whole inside of the house she just shrugged :lol:
I have been OCing for about 3 weeks on my weekends now, usually in Target, Menards, etc...no issues. Tonight my 9 year old and I go to Kohl's in Rogers, MN. There are 3 cop cars outside arresting a shoplifter. I start walking in the store with my 9 year old and pass one cop walking out, he barely notices me. Start walking in the store looking for kids clothes, then some lady who works at Kohl's comes up behind me and says "Can I help you Ma'am?" and I say we are going to look kids clothes. She looks at my gun then back and me and says "You can't have that in here" and I say "Well I have my permit..." so she repeats herself again and then I say that it's also not posted on the door...so she says again that store policy is that it is not allowed...so I calmly say that I will put my firearm in my car and come back. So I do that then as I'm leaving I notice 2 of the cops are still in the parking lot hanging around, they watch me leave, then I'm pretty sure they left right after I did.
I really didn't appreciate being treated like that and this was the first time I've been confronted about my OC.
On the upside to things, I found this forum looking for the Kohl's policy and am glad to read of other people who OC. My husband was against me OCing but now he's getting used to it...he just thought I would get a lot of unwanted attention.
PS I had a chuckle when I read that other motorcycle riders also OC, I do too! ha!