If he didn't complete the transaction, how does he know it wasn't some LEA running a sting? Maybe most of the people who say they are willing to buy and sell without regard to eligibility are LEAs running stings? Hmm...?Here's an interesting story from WVEC-TV in Norfolk:
http://www.wvec.com/my-city/norfolk...ho-cant-pass-background-checks-135750958.html
I called the station right after the broadcast, and asked what was illegal about the gun sale that they attempted. (The on-air story did mention that private sales are legal in VA.) The person I spoke with claimed that it's wrong to conduct such sales, and that all a private seller has to do is call the state police to run a background check. He also said that many people felt that a background check should be required for every sale. He claimed that their story was really a story about Bloomberg's efforts to identify illegal gun sales and sellers. But he wouldn't tell me what law was being violated by the station's attempt to purchase the rifle. He refused to debate the issue with me and hung up the phone.:uhoh:
So much for the claim of anti-gunners that we need *“home rule.”* That’s just code for they want to rule your home, anyway.
And that’s the case with this latest publicity stunt, one that at least takes the mask off the lie that the anti-self-defense lobby wants to close a mythical “gun show loophole”—their true (immediate) goal is to end all private sales, and use that as the beachhead from which to launch their next assault.
Heck, any two of us could record some made up conversation saying anything we wanted to. How can you prove it's real and not made up?
Aaah, the good old days. I remember buying $15.00 rifles out of Field & Stream classified and having them delivered through the mail.
This reminds me of the situation I like to remind people of:
We, today, have LESS freedoms than the colonists did under Great Britain. And today, we "proudly" refer to ourselves as the "Land of the 'free' and the home of the Brave." The first part of that clause is a complete joke. The colonists were pissed off enough at their lack of freedom then to initiate and fight a real War, and we today, who are more subjected than they were, settle with simply bragging about how free we are (compared to the rest of the world)! We don't know what freedom is anymore, we have been boiling in the pot with the frogs so long . . . . . . We're happy just as long as we have five bars on our cellphones, and a great package of cable channels for a reasonable price. We are so screwed . . . . .
Which brings up an interesting point... how does old law accomodate new technology?p.publius said:The issue is that some people are selling guns using the internet to conduct a "face-to-face" or private sales of firearms.
If they're not licensed, they're not a dealer.The piece claimed that "unlicensed" dealers were...
And some of those anti-gun folks are also in positions of power in the gov't.TFred said:...anti-gun folks will not admit it and will even deny it to the press, but they actually believe that any non-government person who owns or possesses a gun is already a criminal.
Unless there are more exceptions than just what you've quoted there, it appears that any FFL who ships a gun to an FFL instead of to the owner, as well as everyone involved in the shipping business, are felons.Grapeshot said:§ 18.2-308.2:2 of the Code of Virginia
L1. Any person who attempts to solicit, persuade, encourage, or entice any dealer to transfer or otherwise convey a firearm other than to the actual buyer, as well as any other person who willfully and intentionally aids or abets such person, shall be guilty of a Class 6 felony. This subsection shall not apply to a federal law-enforcement officer or a law-enforcement officer... in the performance of his official duties, or other person under his direct supervision.
If I recall from our PM's, you're a student of history, real history, not what's taught these days. GOOD MEMORY, SIR. YOU'RE RIGHT THERE--ANOTHER REASON WHY WE HOMESCHOOL OUR KIDS--I REFUSE TO SUBJECT THEM TO THE PROPAGANDA VERSION OF OUR HERITAGE, AS I WAS MISLEAD, AS WERE EVEN MY GULLIBLE PARENTS, BORN IN THE 30's.
There are many among us now that take our freedom as originally intended, very seriously. It is inaccurate to paint us all as "settle with simply bragging about how free we are". I REFER TO OUR COUNTRYMEN IN GENERAL, NOT PARTICULARLY FOLKS HERE ON OCDO. QUITE THE CONTRARY HERE.
There are more freedom loving people than you think and as the economy gets worse and the Government tightens its grip....the ranks are growing. I HOPE YOU'RE RIGHT, I JUST HOPE YOU'RE RIGHT. BUT, THERE WAS QUITE A HOST OF MY ANCESTORS OF A LIKE MIND 150 YEARS AGO, BUT IT WAS STILL NOT ENOUGH TO STEM THE TIDE, UNFORTUNATELY.
(I cannot figure out how y'all get the bold print typing on-screen, thus the all caps--I'm such a computer duffer--sorry!).
click and hold down your left mouse button at the start of the text you want to make bold. Drag the mouse to the end of the text you want in bold and release the mouse button. If you've done it correctly you should see your selected text highlighted. If so, look above the text box you're typing in and you should see some formatting options. On my screen there are 3 lines, the middle line begins B I U, click on the B and your text will be bold.
if you can't do it like that then, before the start of what you want to bold, type "{B]" (change the { for a [ and without the " s) and then, at the end of what you want in bold, type "{/B]" (again change the { for a [ and without the " s).
Hope this helps
{B]How's this? {B] If it works, Thanks!! ( I won't know until after I hit "submit.")
{B] try again {/B]
change the { to a [ in both of them.
I had to type it incorrectly so it would show up
I Just hit the keys real hard.:lol:
Where you have the { replace it with [ Also before hitting submit try the preview button and it will show what your post will look like.{B] try again {/B]
You can use the HTML tags (the "<>" button) to illustrate the vBulletin markup examples:change the { to a [ in both of them.
I had to type it incorrectly so it would show up
vBulletin attribute tag examples:
This is plaintext
[B]This will be bold.[/B]
[U]This will be underlined.[/U]
[I]This will be italics.[/I]
[HTML]Text you want to not be parsed and displayed.[/HTML]