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Election day
- Thread starter army74
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Bronson
Regular Member
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autosurgeon
Regular Member
Thank you! :monkey What did I win:question: A swift kick :uhoh:
WilDChilD
Regular Member
Only if Virg wins in November
autosurgeon
Regular Member
If Virg wins in Nov I will be kicking myself anyway:lol:
Glock9mmOldStyle
Campaign Veteran
Okay...tell me, do you think the results would of been the same if this election was held on a Saturday? I doubt it more like Cox vs. Bernero & Cox would mop the floor with his ass! If so, I throw in the towel.
Yes, apathy is an issue, but the more difficult it is to vote the less people do so, period. And in this election it left us with two mediocre choices at best
I have not missed a vote in 20yrs. & it often required some schedule wrangling to do so. Most clerks offices close at 5pm correct? So even going in, calling, going online during work etc... to get an absentee ballot can be a pain for some people. Besides absentee ballots are just that, for those who will be out of town, not designed to take the place for those who have to work etc...they are a poor substitute for reasonable polling hours & days.
Let the rebuttals begin.....
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Glock9mmOldStyle
Campaign Veteran
This maybe the case. Synder has the personality of dry toast! Let the weeping begin...let's hope this doesn't happen. Remember this is the mayor of Lansing..home of the famous PONDEROSA incident!!! yikes!
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autosurgeon
Regular Member
Once you vote in person 1 time you setup automatic absentee ballot from thereon out. And you can signup online anytime day or night.
Also the Polls are open from 6:00AM till 8:00PM so there should be very few jobs that would cover all of that... also your employer MUST allow you time to vote IF your work hours cover the entire time the polls are open.
Also the Polls are open from 6:00AM till 8:00PM so there should be very few jobs that would cover all of that... also your employer MUST allow you time to vote IF your work hours cover the entire time the polls are open.
DrTodd
Michigan Moderator
Remember that we are talking about a "primary election" here; primary elections are conducted by the government on behalf of the parties. The primary is supposed to be a way for the party to decide on a slate of candidates. I would argue that if you are not a party member, you SHOULDN"T vote in the primary for that party.
Yooper
Regular Member
That's my view, since I'm neither registered as a Democrat or Republican, I don't vote in the primaries. The candidates that won in my district for state rep are both pro gun (dem and rep), same with the senate district, same with the U.S. congressional district.
Glock9mmOldStyle
Campaign Veteran
http://www.michigan.gov/sos/0,1607,7-127-1633-21037--,00.html
Are you: -> if not you are violating the law!
As a registered voter, you may obtain an absentee voter ballot if you are:
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age 60 years old or older [nope not SW MOC Director]
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unable to vote without assistance at the polls [nope not SW MOC Director]
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expecting to be out of town on election day [maybe???] [from your comments sounds like you abuse this?]
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in jail awaiting arraignment or trial [nope not SW MOC Director]
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unable to attend the polls due to religious reasons [maybe???]
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appointed to work as an election inspector in a precinct outside of your precinct of residence. [maybe???]
The law is the law correct? Abide by it, change it, or shut up!
Are you: -> if not you are violating the law!
As a registered voter, you may obtain an absentee voter ballot if you are:
*
age 60 years old or older [nope not SW MOC Director]
*
unable to vote without assistance at the polls [nope not SW MOC Director]
*
expecting to be out of town on election day [maybe???] [from your comments sounds like you abuse this?]
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in jail awaiting arraignment or trial [nope not SW MOC Director]
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unable to attend the polls due to religious reasons [maybe???]
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appointed to work as an election inspector in a precinct outside of your precinct of residence. [maybe???]
The law is the law correct? Abide by it, change it, or shut up!
Glock9mmOldStyle
Campaign Veteran
Penalties for fraudulently obtaining a absentee ballot..DING...DING...DING..DOOH!
Penalties: Michigan election law provides the following penalties related to Michigan’s
absentee voting process:
• A person who forges a signature on an absentee ballot application is guilty of a felony.
(MCL 168.759(8))
• An unauthorized person who both distributes absentee ballot applications to voters and
returns those absentee ballot applications to a clerk or assistant of the clerk is guilty of a
misdemeanor. (MCL 168.759(8))
• A person who is not involved in the counting of ballots as provided by law who has
possession of an absentee ballot which was mailed or delivered to another person is guilty of
a felony if he or she 1) opens the envelope containing the ballot 2) makes any marks on the
ballot 3) alters the ballot in any way or 4) substitutes another ballot for the absentee ballot in
his or her possession. (MCL 168.932(e))
• A person, other than an authorized election official, who gives, lends or promises any
valuable consideration to or for a person to induce that person to both distribute absentee
ballot applications and receive signed absentee ballot applications from voters for delivery to
the clerk is guilty of a misdemeanor. (MCL 168.931(1)(b))
• A person who participates in a meeting or a portion of a meeting of more than two persons,
other than the person’s immediate family, at which an absentee ballot is voted is guilty of a
misdemeanor. (MCL 168.931(1)(m))
• A person who is present while a voter is voting an absentee ballot who suggests how the
voter should vote or attempts to influence the voter on how he or she should vote is guilty of
a felony. (MCL 168.932(h))
• A person who assists an absentee voter mark his or her ballot who suggests how the voter
should vote or attempts to influence the voter on how he or she should vote is guilty of a
felony. (MCL 168.932(g))
• A person who assists an absentee voter mark his or her ballot who permits any other person
to suggest how the voter should vote or permits any other person to attempt to influence the
voter on how he or she should vote is guilty of a felony. (MCL 168.932(g))
6• A person in illegal possession of an absentee ballot (voted or unvoted) is guilty of a felony.
(MCL 168.932(f))
• An unauthorized person who returns, solicits to return or agrees to return an absentee ballot is
guilty of a felony. (MCL 168.932(f))
• A person who assists an absentee voter who falsifies the statement which must be signed by
such assistants is guilty of a felony. (MCL 168.761(5))
• A person who plans or organizes a meeting at which absentee ballots are to be voted is guilty
of a felony. (MCL 168.932(i))
• An absentee voter who knowingly makes a false statement on the absentee ballot return
envelope is guilty of a misdemeanor. (MCL 168.761(5))
Careful, Careful, Mr. MOC SW Coordinator.
Penalties: Michigan election law provides the following penalties related to Michigan’s
absentee voting process:
• A person who forges a signature on an absentee ballot application is guilty of a felony.
(MCL 168.759(8))
• An unauthorized person who both distributes absentee ballot applications to voters and
returns those absentee ballot applications to a clerk or assistant of the clerk is guilty of a
misdemeanor. (MCL 168.759(8))
• A person who is not involved in the counting of ballots as provided by law who has
possession of an absentee ballot which was mailed or delivered to another person is guilty of
a felony if he or she 1) opens the envelope containing the ballot 2) makes any marks on the
ballot 3) alters the ballot in any way or 4) substitutes another ballot for the absentee ballot in
his or her possession. (MCL 168.932(e))
• A person, other than an authorized election official, who gives, lends or promises any
valuable consideration to or for a person to induce that person to both distribute absentee
ballot applications and receive signed absentee ballot applications from voters for delivery to
the clerk is guilty of a misdemeanor. (MCL 168.931(1)(b))
• A person who participates in a meeting or a portion of a meeting of more than two persons,
other than the person’s immediate family, at which an absentee ballot is voted is guilty of a
misdemeanor. (MCL 168.931(1)(m))
• A person who is present while a voter is voting an absentee ballot who suggests how the
voter should vote or attempts to influence the voter on how he or she should vote is guilty of
a felony. (MCL 168.932(h))
• A person who assists an absentee voter mark his or her ballot who suggests how the voter
should vote or attempts to influence the voter on how he or she should vote is guilty of a
felony. (MCL 168.932(g))
• A person who assists an absentee voter mark his or her ballot who permits any other person
to suggest how the voter should vote or permits any other person to attempt to influence the
voter on how he or she should vote is guilty of a felony. (MCL 168.932(g))
6• A person in illegal possession of an absentee ballot (voted or unvoted) is guilty of a felony.
(MCL 168.932(f))
• An unauthorized person who returns, solicits to return or agrees to return an absentee ballot is
guilty of a felony. (MCL 168.932(f))
• A person who assists an absentee voter who falsifies the statement which must be signed by
such assistants is guilty of a felony. (MCL 168.761(5))
• A person who plans or organizes a meeting at which absentee ballots are to be voted is guilty
of a felony. (MCL 168.932(i))
• An absentee voter who knowingly makes a false statement on the absentee ballot return
envelope is guilty of a misdemeanor. (MCL 168.761(5))
Careful, Careful, Mr. MOC SW Coordinator.
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Mosnar87
Regular Member
Dude. You need to relax.
Autosurgeon may be wrong about the reasons for obtaining an absentee ballot BUT
is sufficient reason to obtain one IF for example you have a job that takes you outside of town all day. If you work in the township or city than IMOP you need to get off your butt and GO VOTE on your lunch break or before/after work.:idea:
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autosurgeon
Regular Member
First of all I vote at my Firehall in every election. I have never voted absentee. Not even once!
If I met the requirements I would however vote absentee versus not voting at all!
The point I was making was IF you have a legit reason and there are a quite a few you can vote by absentee ballot. (just BC I didn't specify does not mean people should run out and break the law) Of course you have to follow the law when you fill out the request for an absentee ballot whether online or at your county clerk you must answer the question of why you meet the requirement for an absentee ballot.
The real point I was making is there is NO excuse for not getting out to the polls or voting absentee (if you meet the requirements) other than last minute illness or something beyond your control like for example a flight delay. To say we need to change the day the voting is accomplished and that somehow will help a rather weak position BC a different date does not change the apathy that is the real problem in our country.
It seems to me you are taking this way too personally Glock9mmoldstyle!
If I met the requirements I would however vote absentee versus not voting at all!
The point I was making was IF you have a legit reason and there are a quite a few you can vote by absentee ballot. (just BC I didn't specify does not mean people should run out and break the law) Of course you have to follow the law when you fill out the request for an absentee ballot whether online or at your county clerk you must answer the question of why you meet the requirement for an absentee ballot.
The real point I was making is there is NO excuse for not getting out to the polls or voting absentee (if you meet the requirements) other than last minute illness or something beyond your control like for example a flight delay. To say we need to change the day the voting is accomplished and that somehow will help a rather weak position BC a different date does not change the apathy that is the real problem in our country.
It seems to me you are taking this way too personally Glock9mmoldstyle!