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Detective Gordon Martines is running for Sheriff of Clark County.

The Big Guy

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Response to questions...

My questions to, and answers from, Det. Martines. If you have question for him I would encourage you to ask him. We need to find a really good candidate to replace Gestapo Doug...

TBG


Detective Martines

It has come to my attention that you are running for Clark County Sheriff. I read the article in Freedom Outpost announcing your candidacy. I liked what I read but I have a few questions I would like to get answers to if you have a moment.

1. Do you believe that the Sheriff is the top constitutional authority within the county?

That seems about right, if not he should be. I can't really speak for the current or past sheriffs, but I can speak for myself, I am a constitutionalists, a life time member of "OathKeepers" and currently have a Federal Lawsuit against the Sheriff, et al, based on not obeying an unlawful order and lying about a major criminal case.

2. Do you believe that it is the duty of the Sheriff to defend the citizens of his county against Federal encroachment and unconstitutional actions?

I have always felt that was the Sheriff's duty and also my personal belief and vow. I have worked around the Feds for years and know that their interests don't necessarily match our own interests, since they get their orders from Washington. The Feds control local government by money and grants.

3. Do you believe that the NV Constitution, Article 1, Section 11, #1 and the U.S. Constitution 2[SUP]nd[/SUP] Amendment guaranty the citizens of this county that “Every citizen has the right to keep and bear arms for security and defense, for lawful hunting and recreational use”, without conditions?

No conditions what so ever. The moment you start placing conditions, the flood gates will open and their will be no stopping it. The 2nd Amendment just doesn't say that any conditions can be placed against it.

4. Do you believe that the Clark County firearms registration must be eliminated as ineffectual, costly, and unconstitutional?

That has always been my stance and platform. First registration and then confiscation. The 2nd Amendment guarantees that the other Amendments will be followed. As a current 39 year veteran police officer, I have never solved a crime using the gun registration section. The usual law abiding citizen merely needs to record and even photograph their weapons, place that information somewhere safe and if their weapon is ever stolen, merely give the reporting officer the information, that is all that is necessary to get your gun back if recovered.

5. Do you believe that under state preemption the only firearms laws under local control within Clark County are discharge and Blue Card?

Not sure about the question (Discharge) and what you are asking. The blue card however will cease to exist when I am sheriff. I will merely underfund the registration section and advise the rest of the police department to avoid enforcing that particular statute. I believe it is unconstitutional in that it is only based on population and only affects Clark County in the entire state. To me that smacks of biased and prejudice and in totally contradiction to the 2nd Amendment. I equate it with the confiscation of guns by local police and national guard units during Katrina, only because of the weather. There are plenty of laws created that deal with the misuse of firearms especially with use of a firearms in the commission of a crime. Law Abiding citizens that possess firearms should not be harassed, fined, regulated, or penalized in violation of the 2nd Amendment and merely because of the "weather" or "population". It is all about Control, people control by government.

6. Would you support constitutional carry for the state of NV?

Yes, It would be the quickest way to reduce crime immediately, I fully support it.

7. Do you as a law officer support the open carry of firearms by law abiding citizens for the protection of themselves and their families?

Absolutely, and I would encourage it, especially the way things are evolving from the con man in the oval office.
 

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Det Martines said:
...currently have a Federal Lawsuit against the Sheriff,...

Wow. Can any of our legal experts find that in the public records? That must be an interesting case. The fact that it exists really got my attention.

I liked Laurie Bisch, but I REALLY like this guy.

Of course, I'd be much more interested in hearing how he tells all this to the Brady Bunch. That will tell me much more.
 

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Wow. Can any of our legal experts find that in the public records? That must be an interesting case. The fact that it exists really got my attention.

I liked Laurie Bisch, but I REALLY like this guy.

Of course, I'd be much more interested in hearing how he tells all this to the Brady Bunch. That will tell me much more.

I have asked him to clarify a couple of things (I think he misspoke), and to get details of the legal action against Gestapo Doug...

I like Lauri Bisch too. All things being equal I will support the one who I think has the best chance to win.

TBG
 

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Sounds like a good choice. Hopefully Nevada's proximity to Kalifornia doesn't completely ruin things for you.
 

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Quote from his website...

Interesting, and this is from an insider.

Det. Martines further says, the police department has fallen into a dismal, decaying, corrupted Abyss, by mismanagement, lack of morals and principles, greed, avarice, dishonesty, nepotism, and a hidden organized crime infiltration, that has slowly occurred over the years and has spread like a virus and cancer. The majority of the street cops are honorable Law Enforcement Officers, but they are battling the criminal element on two fronts, behind and in front, and no matter who you are, operating in those kind of conditions will take it’s toll and can’t help but demoralize and corrupt any organization.

TBG
 

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I like what he is "saying", but would more interested in what he has "done" while he has been in uniform as to all the questions he answered. His chances will come down to MONEY and grassroots campaigning.

Can he get NFA, NRA, GOA, OCDO AND NS (traditionally anti OC) together behind him ? Can he get veteran's groups behind him ? Can he get the cop union behind him ? Can he get the minorities behind him ? Can he get the business community behind him ? Can he raise the money to defeat the "establishment" cop the LVPD hierarchy wants in ?

Time will tell. You may want to tell him going anti Obama in question # 7 is not going to help you sway the Obama Kool Aid drinking gun owner/pro 2nd amendment voter to your side. Believe me, they are out there. When you are running on the pro 2nd amendment it should always be about them (government in general and not a specific person) versus us.

If he has DONE what he preaches/says, he has a fighting chance with the right groups and money.

NAVYBLUE
 
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WOW! :shocker: I REALLY like Martines guys. I do agree with Navy though. Actions speak LOUDER than words. Also, if he can get the backing. Another are the minorities. Although he is one, MOST drink the Obama Kool Aid. They've been drinking from the cup of the democrats for YEARS. Most are completely dependent on the government (i.e. welfare, and other government programs). Most will fight ANY candidate that is not only a minority but also conservative. Case in point, anyone remember Herman Caine?
 

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I think that one went over the top...

Well MAC702, you've already met me. I'll leave it at that.

In MY position, I'm much closer to the "mindset". Notice that I DID NOT SAY ALL minorities. Even this Detective Martines would know what I'm talking about. Anyway, from my stand point I CAN tell you that MOST of them would stand against him AND why. I'm no politician and I'm not going to try and be "politically correct". Furthermore, I will not appease anyone here. Heck, even I get the "race card" called on me AND worse. The sad part is that this is done BY MY OWN PEOPLE. Why? Because, I don't share the same sentiments that they do. I BELIEVE IN SELF SUFFICIENCY. I am my own man. I am a FREE man. I THINK, therefore I AM. PERIOD. THIS is why there are those of my people that are called "Uncle Tom".

Humph, we're just conservative in thought and in our nature. Because we choose to THINK for ourselves, this goes against the establishment. I will NOT be enslaved by the shackles of despotism. Det. Martines is a member of another minority group that shares MANY of the same ideologies as mine. Unfortunately, THAT IS THE TRUTH. He has an uphill battle. His conservative views have already alienated him from most of his people. Believe me, I know how that feels.

Like I last stated...Case in point, anyone remember Herman Caine? He was ridiculed and humiliated. By who? By MOST African-Americans. In fact, he was even accused of multiple adulterous affairs. And THESE accusations were fabricated (this was PROVEN by Fox News). Did this matter? No. The point of the attacks were to merely discredit him. After so much humiliation, he dropped out of the race. Who did MY people choose as their champion? The Chicago Thug. Barack Hussein Obama. The man with NO experience at all over Herman Caine who IS a BUSINESS SUCCESS (owns his own business and is a millionare) and a PROVEN leader. Remember those "Obama Phones"? Yeah, he coerced their votes for the second term. MY people are worse off now than they were before HE was elected. Here's some REAL statics. My people make up 6% of the American population, yet we make up for 48% of the prison population. 74% of my people's families are out of wedlock. And yes, most of the "fathers" are not around to father their children nor take care of the families they make. Poverty is at an all time high. With such a high poverty rate, so is the crime rate. Tisk Tisk. And I'M OVER THE TOP.

This is reality folks. Life is not the same for all. My perspective is unique. Walk a mile in my shoes BEFORE you say that I'm over the top. Anyway, this thread is for Det. Martines. What do the rest of you think about him?
 

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I'm not sure where that came from. I'm merely stating that I do not agree that 'most minorities are completely dependent on the government (i.e. welfare, and other government programs)' as you stated matter-of-factly. If it was purposeful hyperbole, I apologize for missing it.
 

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I'm not sure where that came from. I'm merely stating that I do not agree that 'most minorities are completely dependent on the government (i.e. welfare, and other government programs)' as you stated matter-of-factly. If it was purposeful hyperbole, I apologize for missing it.

Since you are merely stating that you don't agree. Then simply state that. Let your yes be yeses and your no be nos. And no Mac, these are stated factual statistics and not "figures of speech" as you are suggesting. Furthermore, I did state "matter-of-factly" about the views that the majority of the two minorities do hold. Why do you think that the Republican party tries so hard to offset this? That's why they chose Mr. Caine to run as one of the candidates for the Republican party. Like I stated before. My perspective IS unique. I AM a minority. I'm around both groups everyday as part of my job. I hear their political discussions as well as the "talking points" they hear on TV. I've both seen and EXPERIENCED what is done to conservative minorities. Det. Martines is no exception. NOW ARE ALL MINORITIES LIKE THIS...NO. If you include EVERY SINGLE MINORITY GROUP IN THIS COUNTRY as part of your statement, then the statement is one of ignorance. How can you speak on behalf of ALL minorities? Each group has it's own view points. That's why I'm ONLY referencing the two groups most closely attached to this discussion. Det. Martines' last name would suggest his origin is in one particular group (for those that don't know, it is of Hispanic origin). My origin is the other group (African-American). Historically, both groups share similar experiences and therefore have come to accept a number of the same beliefs. In addition, both groups have an overwhelming majority that has a gross distrust of conservative groups and those who associate with them.

As for your apology, I accept. And I say thank you for it. However, let me also extend my apology as well. I've dealt in this "other world" for so long that the air there is so fresh, it's nauseating. I really didn't come here to discuss the unpleasantries of these two groups. Mac, you are indeed a VERY intelligent individual. It's these and many other points that have not been stated here that I discuss and defend everyday. Please, everyone accept my apology. It is my wish for Det. Martines to become Sheriff. I truly do believe in him. He is one of the few that is standing up with his conservative views even though he will undoubtedly become ridiculed, lied about, discredited, etc. With that kind of courage, HE can make a difference in our city.

Since it is I that has disrupted this post, I will excuse myself from it. Please everyone, especially you Mac, enjoy this thread! And again, my most sincere apologies (and my utmost sincere apology to you Mac).
 

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First off hello every one I new to the forum, but not new to open carry. I would like to say I know Gordon Personally, and can say he is a stand up guy, with that said his platform positions on Guns are outstanding. he has many times said he wishes more people would open carry, because it would Reduce crime and make Clark county Safer. Gordon is a personal hero of mine and i have copies of many of his court transcripts, and other documents that were entrusted to myself and others, the content is disturbing to say the least, But Gorden's awesome moral character is shown on every page. i personally could not see voting for anyone other then Gordon for Sheriff of Clark county in 2014.

on a separate note I am a active shooter and love open carry and have turned many others onto it in the past, also recently i was Thanked by a Off duty CHP officer for open carrying into Costco after being harassed. I can only hope getting Gordon into office will positively Change the views of open (and concealed) carry of handguns. I would like to also state the reason Gordon and myself see eye to eye is the fact that we both despise corruption on ANY level. if you are going to quote me please remember these words " I am not anti-government I am Anti- corruption"

I would like to say to all other open carriers out there Thanks for open carrying and your support of the 2nd amendment , and I would like to thank any LEO's out there who openly support open carry or concealed carry!


I would love to hear others views of Gordon running for sheriff in 2014.
 

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First off hello every one I new to the forum, but not new to open carry. I would like to say I know Gordon Personally, and can say he is a stand up guy, with that said his platform positions on Guns are outstanding. he has many times said he wishes more people would open carry, because it would Reduce crime and make Clark county Safer. Gordon is a personal hero of mine and i have copies of many of his court transcripts, and other documents that were entrusted to myself and others, the content is disturbing to say the least, But Gorden's awesome moral character is shown on every page. i personally could not see voting for anyone other then Gordon for Sheriff of Clark county in 2014.

on a separate note I am a active shooter and love open carry and have turned many others onto it in the past, also recently i was Thanked by a Off duty CHP officer for open carrying into Costco after being harassed. I can only hope getting Gordon into office will positively Change the views of open (and concealed) carry of handguns. I would like to also state the reason Gordon and myself see eye to eye is the fact that we both despise corruption on ANY level. if you are going to quote me please remember these words " I am not anti-government I am Anti- corruption"

I would like to say to all other open carriers out there Thanks for open carrying and your support of the 2nd amendment , and I would like to thank any LEO's out there who openly support open carry or concealed carry!


I would love to hear others views of Gordon running for sheriff in 2014.

Welcome to the forum. Good to hear your views.

TBG
 
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