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Carrying in VT w/Out of State license

unarmed in westchester

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Hi all! My name is Mike and im new to this site. As you can see from my profile, i am from the lovely, liberal, anti-gun state of NY (to make things worse, i live in Westchester County, home to Hillary Clinton).

My question is regarding carrying in Vermont. My fiancee is from VT and we visit there quite often and while we are there, i do quite a bit of shooting with my soon-to-be father-in-law. I have gone into several gun shops (in Rutland & Poultney) and have never had a problem handling firearms. My question is this; What are the laws/regulations regarding an out-of-stater carrying in VT?

I do indeed have a NYS pistol license, but obviously do not have residency in VT. Would i still be able to carry in VT?

Any response or helpful tips would be greatly appreciated!

Thanks in advance,

Mike
 

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You don't even have to be a citizen. No license or paperwork required to carry in Vermont either openly or concealed, loaded or not.

Non-citizens have to meet certain criteria to possess firearms under federal law, but I don't think VT cares about citizenship.
 

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KBCraig wrote:
You don't even have to be a citizen. No license or paperwork required to carry in Vermont either openly or concealed, loaded or not.

Non-citizens have to meet certain criteria to possess firearms under federal law, but I don't think VT cares about citizenship.

That is correct. Vermont respects the rights of people to carry as long as they are 15 years old.

Also, Vermont respects the right to carry anyknife of any length, switchblade, billy club, stun gun, tazer, or pistol whether concealed or not.

No Vermont does not care about citizenship, Vermont never had that constitutional problem.
 

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Jared wrote:
KBCraig wrote:
You don't even have to be a citizen. No license or paperwork required to carry in Vermont either openly or concealed, loaded or not.

Non-citizens have to meet certain criteria to possess firearms under federal law, but I don't think VT cares about citizenship.

That is correct. Vermont respects the rights of people to carry as long as they are 15 years old.

Also, Vermont respects the right to carry anyknife of any length, switchblade, billy club, stun gun, tazer, or pistol whether concealed or not.

No Vermont does not care about citizenship, Vermont never had that constitutional problem.

Vermont has the lowest crime rate if I remember correctly (smile). This is how it should be everywhere, don't you think?!?

2nd Amendment...........Use it..........Or, lose it!!:X
 

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I'm curious how carrying in Vermont works with the Federal Gun Free Zone law... That states you can't have a gun within 1000 feet of a school property without a license or permit from the state you are in. (unless it's locked up)

Since Vermont doesn't issue permits, how do you get around this?
 

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It's not exactly enforced generally speaking, I've looked and only found it used against people charged with other crimes at the same time, such as murder, drug dealing/etc.) but to play it safe (especially since some police have harassed me over open carry)I carry non-firearm (under federal law) guns (pre-1899 antiques, cap and ball revolvers etc.) when I may be around schools (that law makesa big partof my city off limits to carrying modern firearms, schools all over the place). That gun free school zone law is one federal law that desperately needs to be either repealed or challenged in court! Funny how my post-1898 Nagant revolvers or my 1911 can't be carried within 1000 feet of a school but my big Colt Walker repro. can.
 

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Wow, as always, you guys have come through for me! I knew id get a respnse, just didnt think id get so many and so quickly!

Smurfologist...too funny man! When i brought my fiancee to apply for her pistol license, i had a lengthy conversation with the Detective assigned to her case. He was almost appaled at the fact she was originally applying for full carry (as did i). He asked me if i knew she was applying for full carry and i said yes, but told her you (the County) would most likely talk her out of it. He got a bit defensive and said that he would never talk anyone out of it, but its very hard to be granted full-carry through Westchester Co., which we both knew. Anyway, we were talking about guns and the laws surrounding gun ownership. I brought up the fact that states such as Vt. that have little to no gun laws, have very low crime rates. He agreed but saud that many of those states have very strict laws in regards to carrying. I said that i wouldnt care, as long as i was lawfully carrying to protect myself and my family. We then got into deeper discussion and i had many questions/arguments, but i let alot of it go, for sake of my fiancee getting her license lol.
 

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I'm not 100% sure about VT, but I have a non-resident permit for PA and their rules are that you are limited to your home states permit conditions. Which means, if you have a permit that is restricted to your home and not full carry you can not carry in public. Or if you have just for hunting then you can only carry while hunting etc. Since you are from Westchester I'm sure you don't have full carry. I would check with the states laws first even though residents don't need a permit.
 

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NYShooter wrote:
I'm not 100% sure about VT, but I have a non-resident permit for PA and their rules are that you are limited to your home states permit conditions. Which means, if you have a permit that is restricted to your home and not full carry you can not carry in public. Or if you have just for hunting then you can only carry while hunting etc. Since you are from Westchester I'm sure you don't have full carry. I would check with the states laws first even though residents don't need a permit.

How sure of this are you? Citation please.

When carrying in another state, you go by the laws of the state you are visiting--not your home state.

Afterall, how could one state enforce another state's laws?

For example, in certain states, you cannot carry a firearm in a restaurant that serves alcohol. In VA--you MUST open carry in restaurants that serve alcohol. If I visit another state--I don't OC--I adhere to the laws of the state I'm visiting.
 

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I agree , you go by the state you are visiting. But the adjoining states I am applying to have different restrictions. If your home state does not allow you full carry then you can't do it in the state you visit either unless it is under certain conditions. My example is a friend of mine from NJ. He only has a residence permit for that state, but he can use his handgun to hunt in PA, no other purpose allowed. Like I said , I don't know if VT is the same.
 

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jaredbelch wrote:
I'm curious how carrying in Vermont works with the Federal Gun Free Zone law... That states you can't have a gun within 1000 feet of a school property without a license or permit from the state you are in. (unless it's locked up)

Since Vermont doesn't issue permits, how do you get around this?

I don't think Fed law impliments such GFZ. It's certainly not enforced here in Tn. We are allowed to amke drop/pickup fo students while carrying w/permit as long as we don't get out of the vehicle with it. We can drive right past a school armed. There's no buffer zone that I'm aware of in Tn.

You may be thinking of a State law somewhere.
 

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NYShooter,
Your friend is mistaken, you can OC anywhere in pennsylvania except philadelphia without a CCW, resident or not.
You always follow the laws of the state your in at the time not the state you reside in. New Jersey @ New York have nothing to say about it, their jurisdiction does not apply in other states!
Tell your friend to get a Florida or Utah CCW permit and he can carry OC/CC anywhere in Pa including Phila.
As far as Vermont goes, follow Vermont law NOT New York law when in Vermont.

Vermont Carry
Are you a felon? NO!
Are you legally crazy? NO!
Then strap-on and go about your business!

With that being said, I advise learning and abiding by the laws of any state that you decide to OC/CC in. IANAL

sandcast69


http://paopencarry.org/pdfs/Pennsylvania_Gun_Rights.pdf
 

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IMHO, VT is the only state that truelly supports 2A, no infringment their!!:celebrate

Bummer I moved to AZ, now I gotta spend $150-$200:banghead:Someday I'll go back, someday soon:celebrate
 

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NavyLT wrote:
NYShooter wrote:
I agree , you go by the state you are visiting. But the adjoining states I am applying to have different restrictions. If your home state does not allow you full carry then you can't do it in the state you visit either unless it is under certain conditions. My example is a friend of mine from NJ. He only has a residence permit for that state, but he can use his handgun to hunt in PA, no other purpose allowed. Like I said , I don't know if VT is the same.
Your CCW is just like your driver's license. You abide by the laws of the road you are driving on, not by the laws of where your license is from.
Not always exactly the case. If one possessed a restricted DL from Va. permitting them to only drive during the day light or to and from work, they are not legal to drive in PA. after dark while on vacation.

It would seem to me that restrictions on gun/carry permits from your home state might well present a problem elsewhere.

Yata hey
 

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Grapeshot wrote:
NavyLT wrote:
NYShooter wrote:
Your CCW is just like your driver's license. You abide by the laws of the road you are driving on, not by the laws of where your license is from.
Not always exactly the case. If one possessed a restricted DL from Va. permitting them to only drive during the day light or to and from work, they are not legal to drive in PA. after dark while on vacation.

It would seem to me that restrictions on gun/carry permits from your home state might well present a problem elsewhere.

Yata hey

If they EVER institute a Firearms permit recognition system like the DL compact agreement between states that requires/allows any state to enforce the restrictions of another state with regard to DL's then one might have to abide by the home state restrictions.

Here's hoping that a National Recognition is approved that does not require ANY licence to carry concealed or otherwise....
 
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