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Carrying a sword?

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Fallschirjmäger

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Dennis Estell said:
I'm not sure on exactly how my lawyer worked that out, but I know that the weapons charge didn't even go to trial, as my lawyer and the state attorney agreed to drop it the day of trial. The only charge that went to trial was the permit charge, and that one I was found not guilty of by the judge.
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You had two charges against you; the first was nolle prosequied and the second you already know

There is a court ruling(I cant recall which one specifically) that states that a firearm, where legally carried, is not cause for a stop. Too bad in Iowa its a crime.
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Most of it probably comes from the decision of US v. DeBerry, though that's not the only instance.

The only fact that saves the officer's stop of DeBerry, in my opinion, is the fact that it is unlawful in Illinois to carry a concealed weapon.   The tipster informed the police that DeBerry was armed, and it appears from the facts before us that the weapon was not in plain view.   I do not agree that this case would necessarily come out the same way if Illinois law, like the law of many states, authorized the carrying of concealed weapons.   At that point, the entire content of the anonymous tip would be a physical description of the individual, his location, and an allegation that he was carrying something lawful (a cellular telephone? a beeper? a firearm?).   This kind of non-incriminatory allegation, in my view, would not be enough to justify the kind of investigatory stop that took place here.   It would mean, in states that permit carrying concealed weapons, that the police no longer need any reason to stop citizens on the street to search them.   However, we do not have that situation.   Because I therefore consider the Court's comments on lawful concealed weapons to be dicta, I concur in the result reached today.
POSNER, Chief Judge.
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Kopis said:
why the *&$% were you carrying a sword????
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Why the *&$% can't you read? I never said I was carrying a sword. I was simply asking what the legality of carrying a sword in Iowa was. As of right now the only weapon I carry is a HK USP on my hip.
 
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Not A Victim said:
Why the *&$% can't you read? I never said I was carrying a sword. I was simply asking what the legality of carrying a sword in Iowa was. As of right now the only weapon I carry is a HK USP on my hip.
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whatever.... why would you even ask? Let me rephrase......"why the *&$# would you be interested in/ask questions about carrying a sword?"

Carrying a pistol..... cool. Carrying a sword.... creepy.


oh and thank you for identifying your pistol make and model...... now i can rest.
 
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What is so creepy about carrying a sword? I mean, (other than a D&D or Magic The Gathering nerd, which I am :)) swords are cool. Now there is the argument of bringing a knife, or sword in this instance, to a gun fight. I say carry a good knife, I own several KBar brand knives, and a pistol. Something auto open or spring assist is even better.

But in response to the original question, and in an effort to stop this thread from further derailment, a person of age who has asked the county for permission to protect themselves can do so with damn near any weapon available for purchase at nearly any sporting goods/hunting/gun store.
 
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I could see carrying a sword if one was going to encounter with "immortals" however I encounter none, therefore Ill stick to my gun.

There can be only one " highlander":D

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It's horribly nerdy, but that's not a crime. Neither is being significantly more difficult to learn to use properly compared to a firearm.
 
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davidmcbeth said:
http://www.rockdalenews.com/section/1/article/20486/

A man wielding a "medieval" type sword threatened a Covington Police Officer, who then shot the suspect Wednesday afternoon.
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I can see why the officer shot him, and I may be keyboard quarterbacking here, but why not a taser? Im glad the man lived, maybe we'll get an explaination into why he went BSC with a sword. But I still think the shoot first mentality of our police is getting out of control. I believe there have numerous police shootings that could have ended instead with someone having to have barbs removed from their chest instead of bullets. Just IMOP.
 
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Kopis said:
lol, i know it may not be illegal but it's beyond nerdy. a sword is also not always a true equalizer. If i criminal tries to carjack you with a gun, are you going to draw a sword? weird...........
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If you duct tape it to your hand, you don't need to draw. If you drive naked and duct tape a sword to your hand, nobody will try to carjack you. Ever.
 
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wimwag said:
If you duct tape it to your hand, you don't need to draw. If you drive naked and duct tape a sword to your hand, nobody will try to carjack you. Ever.
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A sword or the sword? Like Excalibur

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