PeterNSteinmetz
Regular Member
I was at the Scottsdale Mustang library last night to attend a Republican party meeting and gather signatures for our letter to the Scottsdale mayor urging the removal of the no weapons signs at municipal buildings. Had an interesting experience.
I went in to ask for the locker to store my pistol. I was told this was basically the first time they had had to do this so they looked up the policy. Their policy called for my showing an ID and signing a form. I declined to do this since at the courthouse downtown I only have to provide my name and they attach that to the gun. This resulted in considerable discussion with the person in charge. (I subsequently found out that when they check your firearm into a locker they are explicitly prohibited from retaining a record of this and that the library states they shred such documentation.)
During this discussion the manager indicated that since the library would be closing at 8 and the meeting would go beyond that, that I would need to retrieve my firearm and store it in the car after 8.
I noted that in fact, per state law (13-3102.01), if they don't have a locker available for use which I can access when I am leaving, that I can then carry my firearm. This generated considerable further discussion and their insistence that I conform with their "policy". I suggested that perhaps it would actually be better to phone the police and have them resolve the issue.
The police responded 45 minutes later and after we both had done some research on the statute, the police agreed with me. Thus I was able to pick up my firearm shortly before 8 and be an LAC during the remainder of the meeting. Other members of the meeting seemed to greatly appreciate this, with several telling me afterwards they felt safer that people were allowed to carry there.
Hopefully we can get the policies for municipal buildings changed in Scottsdale so that LACs may continue to protect themselves and Scottsdale is not needlessly creating victim disarmament zones.
I went in to ask for the locker to store my pistol. I was told this was basically the first time they had had to do this so they looked up the policy. Their policy called for my showing an ID and signing a form. I declined to do this since at the courthouse downtown I only have to provide my name and they attach that to the gun. This resulted in considerable discussion with the person in charge. (I subsequently found out that when they check your firearm into a locker they are explicitly prohibited from retaining a record of this and that the library states they shred such documentation.)
During this discussion the manager indicated that since the library would be closing at 8 and the meeting would go beyond that, that I would need to retrieve my firearm and store it in the car after 8.
I noted that in fact, per state law (13-3102.01), if they don't have a locker available for use which I can access when I am leaving, that I can then carry my firearm. This generated considerable further discussion and their insistence that I conform with their "policy". I suggested that perhaps it would actually be better to phone the police and have them resolve the issue.
The police responded 45 minutes later and after we both had done some research on the statute, the police agreed with me. Thus I was able to pick up my firearm shortly before 8 and be an LAC during the remainder of the meeting. Other members of the meeting seemed to greatly appreciate this, with several telling me afterwards they felt safer that people were allowed to carry there.
Hopefully we can get the policies for municipal buildings changed in Scottsdale so that LACs may continue to protect themselves and Scottsdale is not needlessly creating victim disarmament zones.