A PERFECT example of why to carry tonight.

[shastadude17]

I imagine it went down something like this.

 

[RetiredOC]

Schlitz can believe whatever he chooses. Frankly,I find him to be a child, and 90% of his posts confirm that, completely. So, yes, absolutely , I will treat him as such-and one has nothing to do with the credibility of any post by anyone who does so.

His lack of maturity shows even more when suggesting one in my situation just automatically shoot the guy, rather than try to find another way of dealing with it, such as warn the person off, and give them a chance to reverse-course, first.
Anyway, Im hardly going to defend my statement to a 12 yr. old kid. And , KID, "kid" isnt name-calling. It's simply the most-accurate term by which to address you.
If he cant handle THAT at this point, he's really going to hate life when he gets into High School.

Alright, you earned it.


7/10

 

[GoatSenator]

While I believe this 'Schlitz' fellow is being pretty immature, I have to agree this doesn't sound credible. But if it is true it sounds like it could have gone bad real fast with all of that hesitation. Speaking from experience, you never know when someone high can just snap. Also, you sound like a big fan of the .45. Personally, I prefer 10mm for self defense. :dude:

 

[RetiredOC]

While I believe this 'Schlitz' fellow is being pretty immature, I have to agree this doesn't sound credible. But if it is true it sounds like it could have gone bad real fast with all of that hesitation. Speaking from experience, you never know when someone high can just snap. Also, you sound like a big fan of the .45. Personally, I prefer 10mm for self defense. :dude:

I am simply reading the story, picking out the silly stuff, and coming to my conclusion. This guy claims his throat was grabbed, but it took hearing the words "IMMA KILL YOU" to draw his ".45," did you guys know he had a .45 in the story? It was a .45 in case you didn't get that. And thank god, because had it been a 9mm that guy would have surely done him in. On top of this all his other posts sound childish. You'll know when I'm joking around when I post silly pictures. This is no joke. I repeat again.

>Story sounds rediculous to start
>verbally threatened "i'm going to kill you" DOESN'T SHOOT
>physically attacked by man who isn't phased by a gun, DOESN'T SHOOT
>Draws gun, DOESN'T SHOOT
>Strange person hops in car after being physically attacked, DOESN'T SHOOT
>incident ends, DOESN'T CALL THE POLICE

^ I don't buy it. He implied that shooting his assailant at arms length away is the equivalent to "SPRAYING LEAD." I feel that I've been trolled for even responding, and for that, the rates just went up 10%.

7.5/10

 

[Fuller Malarkey]

You lead a dangerous life, obviously riddled with danger:

Just a week ago:

http://forum.opencarry.org/forums/showthread.php?105439-5-minutes-later-and

Surviving an attack by a half starved Somali:

http://forum.opencarry.org/forums/s...rnment-Model&p=1797968&viewfull=1#post1797968

Survived two gun shot wounds:

http://forum.opencarry.org/forums/s...-ammo-to-use&p=1793825&viewfull=1#post1793825

Survived a home invasion:

http://forum.opencarry.org/forums/s...arry-in-Ohio&p=1760902&viewfull=1#post1760902

Exposed to negligent discharges:

http://forum.opencarry.org/forums/s...quot-against&p=1757054&viewfull=1#post1757054

Warded off an invasion of Kirby vacuum cleaner salesmen:

http://forum.opencarry.org/forums/s...cam-or-potential-threat&p=1734306#post1734306




"I'm on the Advisory Council for the Sheriff's office"

http://forum.opencarry.org/forums/s...ntial-threat&p=1732818&viewfull=1#post1732818

Yet you don't get a license plate number of your attacker, nor notify law enforcement of drawing a weapon in defense of yourself in a public venue.

Here I'm throwing the BS flag:

"Im home all the time during the weekdays, because I work from home."

http://forum.opencarry.org/forums/s...ntial-threat&p=1734306&viewfull=1#post1734306

"Stepped outside my office building a moment ago to have a smoke."

http://forum.opencarry.org/forums/s...quot-against&p=1757054&viewfull=1#post1757054


Dude. Consistency. Get some.


-1/10

 

[Fuller Malarkey]

Isn't there such a thing as giving the benefit of the doubt? Granted that there have been, and probably still are, posters on this forum whose veracity I would be inclined to doubt, I would still give them the benefit of the doubt on a story like this one.

Why? Because every single time I go out of my house, and I live in a fairly good part of town, I see the druggies and the drunks. They're not too hard to spot, either. Not to mention the mentally unbalanced who may or may not be on their meds. I have been caught in a situation, not like this one but still scary, where my situational awareness and reaction time sucked. It can happen to anyone.

From what I read, OP admitted his mistakes and, hopefully, learned from them and won't get caught out again. I will admit that I learned a few things from reading his account.

Could I interest you in a bridge?

 

[GoatSenator]

You lead a dangerous life, obviously riddled with danger:

Just a week ago:

http://forum.opencarry.org/forums/showthread.php?105439-5-minutes-later-and

Surviving an attack by a half starved Somali:

http://forum.opencarry.org/forums/s...rnment-Model&p=1797968&viewfull=1#post1797968

Survived two gun shot wounds:

http://forum.opencarry.org/forums/s...-ammo-to-use&p=1793825&viewfull=1#post1793825

Survived a home invasion:

http://forum.opencarry.org/forums/s...arry-in-Ohio&p=1760902&viewfull=1#post1760902

Exposed to negligent discharges:

http://forum.opencarry.org/forums/s...quot-against&p=1757054&viewfull=1#post1757054

Warded off an invasion of Kirby vacuum cleaner salesmen:

http://forum.opencarry.org/forums/s...cam-or-potential-threat&p=1734306#post1734306




"I'm on the Advisory Council for the Sheriff's office"

http://forum.opencarry.org/forums/s...ntial-threat&p=1732818&viewfull=1#post1732818

Yet you don't get a license plate number of your attacker, nor notify law enforcement of drawing a weapon in defense of yourself in a public venue.

Here I'm throwing the BS flag:

"Im home all the time during the weekdays, because I work from home."

http://forum.opencarry.org/forums/s...ntial-threat&p=1734306&viewfull=1#post1734306

"Stepped outside my office building a moment ago to have a smoke."

http://forum.opencarry.org/forums/s...quot-against&p=1757054&viewfull=1#post1757054


Dude. Consistency. Get some.


-1/10

 

[RetiredOC]

You lead a dangerous life, obviously riddled with danger:

Just a week ago:

http://forum.opencarry.org/forums/showthread.php?105439-5-minutes-later-and

Surviving an attack by a half starved Somali:

http://forum.opencarry.org/forums/s...rnment-Model&p=1797968&viewfull=1#post1797968

Survived two gun shot wounds:

http://forum.opencarry.org/forums/s...-ammo-to-use&p=1793825&viewfull=1#post1793825

Survived a home invasion:

http://forum.opencarry.org/forums/s...arry-in-Ohio&p=1760902&viewfull=1#post1760902

Exposed to negligent discharges:

http://forum.opencarry.org/forums/s...quot-against&p=1757054&viewfull=1#post1757054

Warded off an invasion of Kirby vacuum cleaner salesmen:

http://forum.opencarry.org/forums/s...cam-or-potential-threat&p=1734306#post1734306




"I'm on the Advisory Council for the Sheriff's office"

http://forum.opencarry.org/forums/s...ntial-threat&p=1732818&viewfull=1#post1732818

Yet you don't get a license plate number of your attacker, nor notify law enforcement of drawing a weapon in defense of yourself in a public venue.

Here I'm throwing the BS flag:

"Im home all the time during the weekdays, because I work from home."

http://forum.opencarry.org/forums/s...ntial-threat&p=1734306&viewfull=1#post1734306

"Stepped outside my office building a moment ago to have a smoke."

http://forum.opencarry.org/forums/s...quot-against&p=1757054&viewfull=1#post1757054


Dude. Consistency. Get some.


-1/10

It's all over.

j4l

in before "NOTHINGS OVER"

edit: okay, this post was slightly facetious, but these stories are getting to be a bit much.

 

[Fuller Malarkey]

There were tools to achieve the same results before the internet became popular:

 

[SFCRetired]

Could I interest you in a bridge?

No. I was trying to be nice and give OP the benefit of the doubt. However, with the revelation of other things he has posted, my ability to give him that benefit has been stretched to the breaking point.

 

[j4l]

No. I was trying to be nice and give OP the benefit of the doubt. However, with the revelation of other things he has posted, my ability to give him that benefit has been stretched to the breaking point.

For one, Im not some little kid, like the "critic" there. Ive been around, had some situations, , Ive had to actually go some places and get into some situations, unlike a bunch of kids on here who can only read about such things online.
Im not a stranger to combat or to the use of firearms. Last night's situation was different from past situations, all there is to it.

Nothing is "over" nor is anything stretched, in the least. I have, in fact, led a rather dangerous life, and count myself fortunate, for sure.
I do, in fact, work from home most of the week, but have to actually go into the office for 2 days a week to conduct activities not avail from home/internet. So yes, Most of the time Im at home, and some times Im at the office- the problem with that would be...what? exactly?

I have , in fact been shot twice, got both the slugs, the scars, and even a few miniscule fragments still in me to verify it.The problem with this would be...what, exactly? One doesnt enter a boxing ring without expecting to take a few punches, nor should one enter into this sort of fight without expecting to take a couple of hits as well.
If you do, you will be in for one heck of a surprise someday. And, unlike Hollywood,(for the kids like Schlitz) not every shot is fatal.It is quiet possible to survive being shot-especially by chumps who chose inferior calibers to shoot you with.


There is nothing the least inconsistent with any of what I have posted.

I shared last night's incident, including my own criticisms of my own mistakes during the incident, to point out to the more mature of our contributors how such a situation can spring up. It does not ft into that neat little mold a lot of the wannabes in here claim to prepare for, train for, or expect.
Actual incidents are rarely the picture-perfect scenarios some folks fantasize about in here- with plenty of fore-warning of the incident, opponents 25 meters away, perfect lighting situations, etc. It just doesnt often go down that way.
Then one is faced with judgement calls to make. Make the wrong one, and you can find yourself another Zimmerman.

I find it funny how many of these same clowns were quick to throw Zimmerman under the bus for his actions, long before the facts came to light, yet how quick the same folks are to criticize me for NOT lighting the guy up, before seeking other options. . Hence, THEIR credibility is the one to question, here.
Schiltz's whining has more to do with my outing him for the child that we have long since established him to be. Too bad for him.
For those of you mature enough to take such an incident as shared, and maybe gain some useful bits from it, should you find yourself in an equally bizarre situation, have at it. To the rest. Blow it out yer childish backsides.

 

[Grapeshot]

We have all been subjected to or seen trollish behavior and provocateurs here with "unusual" stories - most often just out of the gate after registering - first or early posts. This is not the case here - he is not a Johny-come-lately.

I am amongst the first to question such stories as stretch the imagination and do dig a lot deeper than most will or can. In this particular circumstance, I found nothing to suggest that the story(s) was not as reported. My conclusion was that this user/poster has had some things happen at a higher than normal frequency - no other result would be factual. I am satisfied with his explanations.

Such excessive "piling-on" responses as are evidenced here are unnecessary and reflect ill on the forum.

 

[RetiredOC]

Nothing is "over" nor is anything stretched, in the least.

[video=youtube;CfBuvRk1thQ]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CfBuvRk1thQ[/video]
You asked for it.

j4l, you tell many tall tales, people are starting to catch on. For goodness sake man, stop before it's too late. The name calling still doesn't help.... neither does Fuller Malarkey's amazing research of the rest of uncle j4l's stories.

(btw good job of using the edit feature, and "Blow it out yer childish backsides" was a good one too. When I read that, I said, "this guy is NOT a child, he is a wise elder who has seen it all")


Now, if you want to see a lesson on "outing someone," i suggest you back track here http://forum.opencarry.com/forums/s...arry-tonight&p=1804929&viewfull=1#post1804929

edit:

Such excessive "piling-on" responses as are evidenced here are unnecessary and reflect ill on the forum.

Sorry to add to that piling on grapeshot. I respect your opinion, but this is just too frequent and written in a manner that sounds like crazy uncle jimmie after he has a few drinks in him.

 

[MAC702]

...I am satisfied with his explanations...

Until he builds up a file of POLICE REPORTS, I'm not. I don't even question the story. But we the people deserve police reports. These are what police are for.

 

[j4l]

We have all been subjected to or seen trollish behavior and provocateurs here with "unusual" stories - most often just out of the gate after registering - first or early posts. This is not the case here - he is not a Johny-come-lately.

I am amongst the first to question such stories as stretch the imagination and do dig a lot deeper than most will or can. In this particular circumstance, I found nothing to suggest that the story(s) was not as reported. My conclusion was that this user/poster has had some things happen at a higher than normal frequency - no other result would be factual. I am satisfied with his explanations.

Such excessive "piling-on" responses as are evidenced here are unnecessary and reflect ill on the forum.

TY grape. And one thing the children over-look, is that most of what I have posted in the past are about past situations I have experienced over the course of some 25+ years. Not all recently. I tend to latch-on to my lessons learned from those experiences, and try to impart them to others at times, to explain my stance/point of view on things.
Children, of course,with no such backgrounds or experiences, tend to find such things a bit "far-fetched". Understandable, when their entire level of experience in such matters is precisely...zero.

 

[Fuller Malarkey]

For one, Im not some little kid, like the "critic" there. Ive been around, had some situations, and that's what it is. Between 14 yrs Army (Central and South American activities in the late 80's, Africa/Middle East in the 90's until I ended my service) and combined post-army work with other outfits, Ive had to actually go some places and get into some situations, unlike a bunch of kids on here who can only read about such things online.
Im not a stranger to combat or to the use of firearms. Last night's situation was different from past situations, all there is to it.

Nothing is "over" nor is anything stretched, in the least. I have, in fact, led a rather dangerous life, and count myself fortunate, for sure.
I do, in fact, work from home most of the week, but have to actually go into the office for 2 days a week to conduct activities not avail from home/internet. So yes, Most of the time Im at home, and some times Im at the office- the problem with that would be...what? exactly?

I have , in face been shot twice, got both the slugs, the scars, and even a few miniscule fragments still in me to verify it.The problem with this would be...what, exactly?


There is nothing the least inconsistent with any of what I have posted.

Are you now, or in anytime in the past, known on internet forums by the unique user name "gecko45"?

http://lonelymachines.org/mall-ninjas/

If this is the case, I humbly apologize and BTW, Chuck Norris sends his best, and wants you to call sometime.

 

[j4l]

Until he builds up a file of POLICE REPORTS, I'm not. I don't even question the story. But we the people deserve police reports. These are what police are for.

Tried the "police report" nonesense immediately after the attempted home-invasion out here-not only to myself, but to the homes of some of my neighbors, by the same folks, also neighbors themselves. It took police 1 hr, 45 minutes to find their way out here, even with a "shots fired" call to 911 by myself, and 4 other neighbors...
Then, when they finally did respond, they jotted down some notes, and drove off. Not to return again until late in the evening of the next day to "follow up and investigate".
During which time, the folks who we all knew had attempted this feat, loaded all the firearms they had into the trunk of their car, and drove off to stash them elsewhere- all while waving at us as they drove by.
When police did arrive, their "investigation" consisted of them going over and asking the suspects "did you do this" to which they, of course, answered "no". The cops said "ok" and left.
Real ******* effective, eh?

My criticism of the Sheriff's Office, after this was loud, and well-known, locally. It was on all the local news channels,about the incident,and including the footage of the cops coming for all of 10 minutes for their investigation, and then leaving with no result. In an effort to quiet my criticising, they invited me to join their Sheriff's Advisory Council, which I did.
I attended the 1st few meetings, then bailed, because I discovered it had next to nothing to do with policing, and improving "communications between the public, and victims, and the police" and a lot more to do with having dinner parties, and luncheons and the like. It was a social club, more than anything, and designed to keep the members distracted from actually solving or improving anything, than anything else.

So, the only time Im inclined to call the police for anything is if I think they can actually be of any use, and if I have had to discharge my pistol-im not even inclined to bother doing so then, should that time arrive.

 

[j4l]

Are you now, or in anytime in the past, known on internet forums by the unique user name "gecko45"?

http://lonelymachines.org/mall-ninjas/

If this is the case, I humbly apologize and BTW, Chuck Norris sends his best, and wants you to call sometime.

MORE children, really? Schiltz, did you have to call for backup from the entire Middle School? Really? It failed you.
Back to the coloring books for both of you.

 

[RetiredOC]

MORE children, really? Schiltz, did you have to call for backup from the entire Middle School? Really? It failed you.
Back to the coloring books for both of you.

Every time j4l posts I do the following before reading:

I call up a few lurkers and members I know here

We each take bets on the amount of times we expect to see the words:

kid

child

.45


Look, I don't usually do this, I really don't, but I'm willing to give you a whopping 8/10 since I'm still here. I find it interesting that now Fuller Malarkey is being called a child, I thought he did some really good research in pulling up all your other BBQ stories. "so there I was toe to toe with a .45 with my hand on my .45 thinking I might just have to draw my .45, so i drew my .45 but i never fired my .45. (that day i was carrying my .45) instead i pistol whipped the pit bull (1,000,000,000 pounds of raw nasty thick hard muscle) and the pit bull knew it had been hit with a .45, he ran forty five yards away before he fell with a crushing boom to the ground. I felt the earth shake for forty five seconds straight. I still can't sleep at night when I think about it and I constantly wake up at 45 a clock in the morning. I am thankful to have had my .45 on me that day (it was the 45th of august 4545"

 

[j4l]

Every time j4l posts I do the following before reading:

I call up a few lurkers and members I know here

We each take bets on the amount of times we expect to see the words:

kid

child

.45


Look, I don't usually do this, I really don't, but I'm willing to give you a whopping 8/10 since I'm still here. I find it interesting that now Fuller Malarkey is being called a child, I thought he did some really good research in pulling up all your other BBQ stories. "so there I was toe to toe with a .45 with my hand on my .45 thinking I might just have to draw my .45, so i drew my .45 but i never fired my .45. (that day i was carrying my .45) instead i pistol whipped the pit bull (1,000,000,000 pounds of raw nasty thick hard muscle) and the pit bull knew it had been hit with a .45, he ran forty five yards away before he fell with a crushing boom to the ground. I felt the earth shake for forty five seconds straight. I still can't sleep at night when I think about it and I constantly wake up at 45 a clock in the morning. I am thankful to have had my .45 on me that day (it was the 45th of august 4545"

Like I SAID. - CHILD ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

I rest my case. Now, back to the adults.